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    Quote Originally Posted by Filled Rolls View Post
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    So it all makes sense now. If you can borrow money from yourself, you can then use that money to buy your football club, from yourself. Presumably you then repay the loan from the money you received from yourself in payment for the club you sold to yourself. Then everybody is happy, especially yourself.
    After a quick run through tomfs' numbers it does beg the question how many times are these imbeciles going to have to buy their own club before they actually own it?! If it was a business other than the yam football distortion you might say that if they come out of admin and they all got the shares that they paid for when they were chipping in for vlads goodbye gift they do indeed own a chunk without having to do anything.

    They will not want to challenge budgies journey towards her total ownership (sorry fan ownership) model though!

    "I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    You're having the same Monday morning as me

    Cav's right. The 2012 accounts were unqualified. The earlier ones had the note about continuing support from Lithuania.
    Apologies if I got the year wrong all I remember was laughing at the qualification, years just slip into years in this regard.

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    Yeah, Johnston Carmichael due £ 100, they made sure they got their £140,000 or whatever fee before signing.

    Their solicitors, HBJ Gately Waring , got stung for £ 44,313.00 which was pleasing, as I'm sure they would have been behind many of the legal " tricks " employed by the Yams over the Vlad years.
    I am willing to bet the £100 may have been a late filing penalty that they paid on their behalf.

    I would prefer to see nobody bumped but I guess those lawyers are in a position to take the hit as opposed to the paper shop in Gorgie.

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    http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index..../#entry4102609

    FoH statement
    The best info they have is the meeting is Friday.
    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index..../#entry4102609

    FoH statement
    The best info they have is the meeting is Friday.
    :-)
    The best info?

    They have been advised, by Twatter, that "there are reports" that the UBIG administrators have no knowledge of the meeting. One might have thought that, given these "reports", someone (a journalist, perhaps??) might have tried speaking to the UBIG administrator to clarify the apparent confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Yeah, Johnston Carmichael due £ 100, they made sure they got their £140,000 or whatever fee before signing.

    Their solicitors, HBJ Gately Waring , got stung for £ 44,313.00 which was pleasing, as I'm sure they would have been behind many of the legal " tricks " employed by the Yams over the Vlad years.
    Have they changed their name yet like Arthur Andersen did after Enron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The best info?

    They have been advised, by Twatter, that "there are reports" that the UBIG administrators have no knowledge of the meeting. One might have thought that, given these "reports", someone (a journalist, perhaps??) might have tried speaking to the UBIG administrator to clarify the apparent confusion.

    Silly me.
    So, it wasn't the Popular Front of Judea after all? It was the Judean Popular Front.....splitters!!


    FoH/HoH/FoHoH/ etc. :The best information at present is that it will take place this Friday (28 March). We know from previous experience that meetings can be delayed at short notice but we will all be keeping our fingers crossed that it takes place as scheduled.

    A. Yamfud: Very reassuring reply, thank you Ian.


    Don't forget to doff your forelock, Quisling, and remember its Mr. Murray in future. Now on your way, but not before you leave the deeds to your house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The best info?

    They have been advised, by Twatter, that "there are reports" that the UBIG administrators have no knowledge of the meeting. One might have thought that, given these "reports", someone (a journalist, perhaps??) might have tried speaking to the UBIG administrator to clarify the apparent confusion.
    I don't know if it's because football fandom breeds a certain myopia, or there are just some incredibly dim souls over on Kickback, but it's a little scary how easily they can be led down by the garden path by inconsequential nonsense.

    Still, not long till Friday's meeting, (which, as we all know can be cancelled at short notice) where we shall see if the UBIG administrator is lying to two separate individuals about this, or whether somebody closer to the PBS is cruelly playing 'tease the roaster.'

    I know which one my money is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    I don't know if it's because football fandom breeds a certain myopia, or there are just some incredibly dim souls over on Kickback, but it's a little scary how easily they can be led down by the garden path by inconsequential nonsense.

    Still, not long till Friday's meeting, (which, as we all know can be cancelled at short notice) where we shall see if the UBIG administrator is lying to two separate individuals about this, or whether somebody closer to the PBS is cruelly playing 'tease the roaster.'

    I know which one my money is on.
    It's bizarre.

    The doubts about the meeting have been put out there, in various forms. All it takes is one email or phone call, and.... bang... they have the truth.

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    You can bet your bottom Lita that someone in Jamboland will come out of the woodwork on Friday morning and say that the meeting has been cancelled. They have mentioned in every statement that they have come out with about how these things happen at short notice. It was never going to be in the first place but the neanderthals will believe the lies like they always do.

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    Isn't it strange that neither Murray or anyone else from FoH can't just contact the UBIG Administrator to ask if the meeting is happening this Friday.

    If a couple of junkie peg-selling Hobos can do it, it can't be all that difficult for a Member of Parliament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    'tease the roaster.
    Brilliant, I love that game too

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It's bizarre.

    The doubts about the meeting have been put out there, in various forms. All it takes is one email or phone call, and.... bang... they have the truth.
    Irene (the UBIG insolvency administrator) sent me another reply earlier this morning after I made her aware FoH are also stating there's a meeting. Here's her reply (which doesn't translate well using Google)

    Pakartotinai Jus informuoju, kad informacijos apie kovo 28 d. UBIG kreditoriø susirinkimà neturiu

    That translates as "I have no information about any UBIG creditors' meeting to be held on March 28."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seveno View Post
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    Isn't it strange that neither Murray or anyone else from FoH can't just contact the UBIG Administrator to ask if the meeting is happening this Friday.

    If a couple of junkie peg-selling Hobos can do it, it can't be all that difficult for a Member of Parliament.
    You have to remember that said Member of Parliament would require his manservant to actually do the work, which is a but difficult at the moment as he is waist deep in the moat feeding ducks with a silver teaspoon
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It's bizarre.

    The doubts about the meeting have been put out there, in various forms. All it takes is one email or phone call, and.... bang... they have the truth.
    Do you not think the announcement of the meeting was possibly a very desperate attempt at shifting a few more derby tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Do you not think the announcement of the meeting was possibly a very desperate attempt at shifting a few more derby tickets.
    It wasn't an announcement from Hearts, though. It was a line in a report from Bazza. Since it appeared, it sounds as if no-one inside Hearts knew about it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    Irene (the UBIG insolvency administrator) sent me another reply earlier this morning after I made her aware FoH are also stating there's a meeting. Here's her reply (which doesn't translate well using Google)



    That translates as "I have no information about any UBIG creditors' meeting to be held on March 28."
    Hmm... does that mean it might be set for another day? Bazza has previous for getting his numbers mixed up.

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    Where is Bryan Jackson whilst all this build up to Friday's crucial meeting? He is the goto man in terms of information for the Scottish (football) media yet not a cheep although there is a sighting of him boarding a plane at the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Still, not long till Friday's meeting, (which, as we all know can be cancelled at short notice) where we shall see if the UBIG administrator is lying to two separate individuals about this, or whether somebody closer to the PBS is cruelly playing 'tease the roaster.'
    Has this been confirmed yet?

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    Isn't it strange that neither Murray or anyone else from FoH can't just contact the UBIG Administrator to ask if the meeting is happening this Friday.

    If a couple of junkie peg-selling Hobos can do it, it can't be all that difficult for a Member of Parliament.
    IMHO the date was put out there by mistake and they haven't had the guts to own up. Now, with all the Yams salivating, it's doubly difficult to now say it aint happening. All that would do is raise lots of tough questions and fears about progress, timescales just ahead of the Derby

    Expect the meeting to disappear like a mirage, with not a peep from BDO/FOH or Barr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Where is Bryan Jackson whilst all this build up to Friday's crucial meeting? He is the goto man in terms of information for the Scottish (football) media yet not a cheep although there is a sighting of him boarding a plane at the weekend.
    TBH, he's probably getting on with his job or his holiday. The fact that he's not being pestered by intrepid reporters, keen to get the real truth, will suit him fine.

    If there's a meeting on Friday, he'll be doing what he can to influence the outcome. If there's not, he won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    Irene (the UBIG insolvency administrator) sent me another reply earlier this morning after I made her aware FoH are also stating there's a meeting. Here's her reply (which doesn't translate well using Google)



    That translates as "I have no information about any UBIG creditors' meeting to be held on March 28."
    Ok it ses so simple can you ask irene when the next
    meeting is scheduled for?

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    Ok it ses so simple can you ask irene when the next
    meeting is scheduled for?
    News of a meeting will be in next Monday's press after we relegate them on the Sunday I would suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    Irene (the UBIG insolvency administrator) sent me another reply earlier this morning after I made her aware FoH are also stating there's a meeting. Here's her reply (which doesn't translate well using Google)



    That translates as "I have no information about any UBIG creditors' meeting to be held on March 28."
    Good work sir. It really isn't difficult if you ask the right people the right questions.

    Barry and Mr Murray aren't the right people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    Irene (the UBIG insolvency administrator) sent me another reply earlier this morning after I made her aware FoH are also stating there's a meeting. Here's her reply (which doesn't translate well using Google)



    That translates as "I have no information about any UBIG creditors' meeting to be held on March 28."
    Sorry to ask you this Sergey. Can you speak Lithuanian. If you can, why use Google translate?

    It's just that there is some hope on JKB, based on the fact that someone over there said you can speak Lithuanian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    Irene (the UBIG insolvency administrator) sent me another reply earlier this morning after I made her aware FoH are also stating there's a meeting. Here's her reply (which doesn't translate well using Google)



    That translates as "I have no information about any UBIG creditors' meeting to be held on March 28."
    Oh Dear !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filled Rolls View Post
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    Sorry to ask you this Sergey. Can you speak Lithuanian. If you can, why use Google translate?

    It's just that there is some hope on JKB, based on the fact that someone over there said you can speak Lithuanian.
    I don't know a single word of Lithuanian, FR...but having several contacts in Kaunas who are fluent, it's easy enough to get them to do the necessary translations.

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    Here is my post from the PM board last week.

    She is to UBIG as Bryan Jackson is to Hahahearts.

    Her email address and telephone number are listed next to the appointment details on the government website.

    See here:
    http://www.bankrotodep.lt/Company.ph...Code=135201099
    and her email to me here:
    http://s12.postimg.org/f2tad3jrh/Screenshot.jpg


    I emailed her and politely asked if there was a creditors meeting taking place on 28 March 2014 for UBIG. Her email reply translates to "I have no knowledge of such a meeting.". And she bloody should know, it's her case, she's the administrator.
    They appear to have removed the email address but there is another listing on the DEPARTMENT OF ENTERPRISE BANKRUPTCY MANAGEMENT Government site here:
    http://195.182.67.7/paslaugos/moni-b...odas=135201099

    This has both her and her firms email addresses listed.

    Hardly groundbreaking investigative journalism from me and Sergey. I don't speak or read a word of Lithuanian and I found this in 10 minutes of looking, last week.

    Either she is lying or Barry Anderson is lying. We shall see on Friday.

    I was going to post this on Friday morning, but since some people think these communications are made up by Sergey, I wanted to put that to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    I don't know if it's because football fandom breeds a certain myopia, or there are just some incredibly dim souls over on Kickback, but it's a little scary how easily they can be led down by the garden path by inconsequential nonsense.

    Still, not long till Friday's meeting, (which, as we all know can be cancelled at short notice) where we shall see if the UBIG administrator is lying to two separate individuals about this, or whether somebody closer to the PBS is cruelly playing 'tease the roaster.'

    I know which one my money is on.
    Get a grip man. The first rule when playing "tease the roaster" is don't mention "tease the roaster".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filled Rolls View Post
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    Sorry to ask you this Sergey. Can you speak Lithuanian. If you can, why use Google translate?

    It's just that there is some hope on JKB, based on the fact that someone over there said you can speak Lithuanian.
    My understanding is that he didn't use Google Translate (because it doesn't work well). He translated it for us himself, so obviously does speak Lithuanian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    I don't know a single word of Lithuanian, FR...but having several contacts in Kaunas who are fluent, it's easy enough to get them to do the necessary translations.
    I thought the translation you quoted was not google's because you said it didn't translate very well. Why are the sick backers accusing you of using google when you provided another translation?

    They also claim the administrator speaks perfect English.

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