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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Liquidate them. Only true justice for the cheating (spending money they don't have to gain football advantage).

    I will piss myself laughing when that day comes and then they can all tell us how it was all worth it.
    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    On the bright side they'll likely be down in the Championship for at least 2 seasons because of Sevco. Out of sight Out of mind. Cheerio Yaks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    Play for the Jersey
    They're used to the Friesian conditions too.

    Just signed a new striker as well Paul Heifernan
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    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    On the bright side they'll likely be down in the Championship for at least 2 seasons because of Sevco. Out of sight Out of mind. Cheerio Yaks.
    I doubt you had high hopes for liquidation. The truth is that nobody knows if Hearts will be liquidated as there are too may unknowns at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    On the bright side they'll likely be down in the Championship for at least 2 seasons because of Sevco. Out of sight Out of mind. Cheerio Yaks.
    No chance of coming up in the play off then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopops1875 View Post
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    No chance of coming up in the play off then ?
    there is not much expected of them just now so no real pressure. When they go down and build for next year the pressure will be back on. They will have a bit of money as they are really in the same position with us in getting money through the gates.The hope is that Dundee are a bit stronger and they haven't managed to get any decent signings to play in the first division

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    I'd be interested to know on what evidence you base that assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    On the bright side they'll likely be down in the Championship for at least 2 seasons because of Sevco. Out of sight Out of mind. Cheerio Yaks.




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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    On the bright side they'll likely be down in the Championship for at least 2 seasons because of Sevco. Out of sight Out of mind. Cheerio Yaks.
    Until such time as the fat lady sings, this is in no way a 'done deal'. Sevco were 100% certain that their CVA proposal was acceptable right up to the day it was rejected. The circumstances in the hertz case are different, but they still have hurdles to jump and their clock is ticking.

    If and when FoH get their grubby little mitts on the 'prize' , I'll accept second best scenario. Until then, I'll be looking for their deserved extinction.

    Die ya mini huns

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    I'd be interested to know on what evidence you base that assertion.
    Ukio are going to accept 2.5 mil for the land. If ukio wanted the going rate then hertz wouldnt be able to raise that. then they go to liquidation. Id be interested to know the ins and outs of how they could still be liquidated at this point. In fact id be delighted to know :)

    Would it be a ukio u turn having already accepted in principa?
    Do ubig have ANY cards to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    I'd be interested to know on what evidence you base that assertion.
    I've been of that opinion ever since the CVA was 'provisionally agreed' in late November. I was, and still am, amazed that that CVA wasn't kicked into touch by all the meaningful Creditors!! Only HMRC had the sense to do so if I remember correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoYO! View Post
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    Ukio are going to accept 2.5 mil for the land. If ukio wanted the going rate then hertz wouldnt be able to raise that. then they go to liquidation. Id be interested to know the ins and outs of how they could still be liquidated at this point. In fact id be delighted to know :)
    1. they run out of money before the CVA is completed.

    2. they have money, but the Lithuanian Courts refuse to unblock the sale of the UBIG shares.

    3. FOH/their backers refuse to meet the alleged purchase price for the UBIG shares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopops1875 View Post
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    No chance of coming up in the play off then ?
    They probably will have 'a chance' in the play-offs next season but I just don't see them being promoted straight away. I predict play-off pain for them next season....which will be extremely funny :)

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    I see this is up for sale http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ebts-1-3281497

    pity they did not do the same for the PBS !.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    1. they run out of money before the CVA is completed.

    2. they have money, but the Lithuanian Courts refuse to unblock the sale of the UBIG shares.

    3. FOH/their backers refuse to meet the alleged purchase price for the UBIG shares.
    What about the rubber stamp running out of ink? Surely a major factor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenpaper55 View Post
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    I see this is up for sale http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ebts-1-3281497

    pity they did not do the same for the PBS !.
    Is it owned by UBIG? If so, it will be frozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    1. they run out of money before the CVA is completed.

    2. they have money, but the Lithuanian Courts refuse to unblock the sale of the shares.

    3. FOH/their backers refuse to meet the alleged purchase price for the UBIG shares.

    1) No chance, BDO would just get the begging bowl out again and start selling Season Tickets (for the Championship).
    2) Possibly, this is the one remaining 'liquidation hope' from where I'm sitting.
    3) Unless their backers are untrustworthy charlatans like Craig Whyte then I highly doubt this one unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperate Dan View Post
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    What about the rubber stamp running out of ink? Surely a major factor?
    This is what I love about Hibs.net. The brainstorming and left-field thinking is both a joy and a challenge..


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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    This is what I love about Hibs.net. The brainstorming and left-field thinking is both a joy and a challenge..

    All details must be considered. I'm surprised you missed out such a biggie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Liquidate them. Only true justice for the cheating (spending money they don't have to gain football advantage). I will piss myself laughing when that day comes and then they can all tell us how it was all worth it.
    O yes indeed. My preferred option but must admit it's been fun watching them moan, whinge,beg, grovel and make every excuse under the sun.

    It would also be very funny if they got within touching distance but..... Didn't quite make it.

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    Ukio are going to accept 2.5 mil for the land. If ukio wanted the going rate then hertz wouldnt be able to raise that. then they go to liquidation. Id be interested to know the ins and outs of how they could still be liquidated at this point. In fact id be delighted to know :)

    Would it be a ukio u turn having already accepted in principa?
    Do ubig have ANY cards to play?
    Because the shares are frozen and their funds are going to run out. Any day now. Probably today in fact.

    (Repeat until you believe it, otherwise you support hearts.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    1) No chance, BDO would just get the begging bowl out again and start selling Season Tickets (for the Championship).
    2) Possibly, this is the one remaining 'liquidation hope' from where I'm sitting.
    3) Unless their backers are untrustworthy charlatans like Craig Whyte then I highly doubt this one unfortunately.
    We've been through point one before: yes they could do but it would rob FOH of their working capital for next season. Without that they're buggered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperate Dan View Post
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    Oi!! Only Banderson is allowed to use stamps, especially rubber ones to approved things. FACT ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antwerphibs View Post
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    Because the shares are frozen and their funds are going to run out. Any day now. Probably today in fact.

    (Repeat until you believe it, otherwise you support hearts.)
    It's not Hibs.net that decided BDO are running out of working capital, that was BDO themselves.

    Also nobody said they'd go boom today or even indeed tomorrow, everyone has been saying it'll be a long drawn out affair, which it is.

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    Lots of ifs, buts and maybes in that article. What is telling is that it is not up for sale and that action by the court is required. Must be the same for all Ubig assets.
    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Lots of ifs, buts and maybes in that article. What is telling is that it is not up for sale and that action by the court is required. Must be the same for all Ubig assets.
    :-)
    Could have been penned by #allisbarry himself, except he admits he doesn't do financials

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    Could have been penned by #allisbarry himself, except he admits he doesn't do financials
    The guy quoted, David Rutherford, is a decent one. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to insolvency.

    I am guessing, though, that he doesn't know about the assets being frozen.

    The article does suggest that the building belongs to UBIG, but it is the EEN so I'm not sure.

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    The EEN seems to have got its tenses mixed up. "Bank sold" implies that it has been sold. The article indicates otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    The EEN seems to have got its tenses mixed up. "Bank sold" implies that it has been sold. The article indicates otherwise.
    Och, you should know by now how these things work. It just needs a rubber stamp.

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    Hearts remain in Adminiistratation for next season

    Sorry if covered before.

    Under SPFL rules would Hearts be docked more points or suffer any other punishment if they are still in administration for next season?

    Having a debate with a decent Jambo,yes a few exist, over here in the Sun and Wind of Fuerteventura.

    GGTTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK_Hibs View Post
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    They won't be liquidated. I HAD high hopes they were going to be a couple of months ago but now it's highly unlikely.
    On the bright side they'll likely be down in the Championship for at least 2 seasons because of Sevco. Out of sight Out of mind. Cheerio Yaks.
    FACT?

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