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[monktonharp]

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That's what people keep forgetting with this. The punishments were laid down as a deterrent, and when Rangers went to the wall Hearts should have realised no club was too big to fail and done something about their own predicament pronto.

They didn't and now they'll just have to live with it. They'll be an example for other clubs to try and avoid following.

most on here knew, and we'd known for ages that the same would happen to the gorgie mob.I think the big problem over there, is that the majority of their fans thought it would all just go away, so there was no real need to protest, or form a front, to take the club on. sadly, there was , I think a splinter group which recognised that it was not quite as rosy as it seemed. they never got enough backing from ordinary fans. the ordinary gorgie boy, kept thinking, 1902, 5-1 well worth it, and the ones I meet in the pub are still thinking that.

[monktonharp]

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This is getting tiresome.

You know what, Kickback can never again harp on about some media conspiracy against Hearts.

ok mr todd, leave Harps ootay it, awrite

[GloryGlory]

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most on here knew, and we'd known for ages that the same would happen to the gorgie mob.I think the big problem over there, is that the majority of their fans thought it would all just go away, so there was no real need to protest, or form a front, to take the club on. sadly, there was , I think a splinter group which recognised that it was not quite as rosy as it seemed. they never got enough backing from ordinary fans. the ordinary gorgie boy, kept thinking, 1902, 5-1 well worth it, and the ones I meet in the pub are still thinking that.

Well, unlike Rangers, they did after all owe the money to themselves, so they had every reason to suppose it wouldn't happen to them.

[Ozyhibby]

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...fted-1-3261930

Fresh appeal. Appears to have moved on from Health and Safety to purely financial.
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[greenpaper55]

Wait a minute, Jackson fears that crowds will dwindle if they cannot sign more players ! what if they start to beat the other teams then the other teams crowds will dwindle. Only Hearts would have the brass neck to try something like this , the sooner they are relegated the better.

[cocopops1875]

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http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...fted-1-3261930

Fresh appeal. Appears to have moved on from Health and Safety to purely financial.
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Could it be that they are trying to force the hand of the SPFL to give them the 12th place money ?
By going in with the lifting embargo chat based on finance, they must know that won't get lifted but they might accept paying them as a justifiable evil ?

[GreenLake]

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http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...fted-1-3261930

Fresh appeal. Appears to have moved on from Health and Safety to purely financial.
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"Heart's administrators fear that unless they become more competitive in the second half of the season, home crowds at Tynecastle could dwindle, which would be a serious financial blow......"

They are only concerned when the financial blows are on them and not when they are blowing the finances of others. Home crowds were vastly increased during the years of financial doping so wild swings in equilibrium ought to be expected and deserved. Wee crowds, wee team, we laugh.

[Craig_in_Prague]

I'm convinced this ugly freak, will just do anything and everything he can, to look as if he tried his all to help Hearts. So when the padlocks are up, and he recieves his firms million pound cheque, he will feel at ease with himself.

[matty_f]

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http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...fted-1-3261930

Fresh appeal. Appears to have moved on from Health and Safety to purely financial.
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If they have concerns about health and safety and the embargo isn't lifted, can we expect them to withdraw from some games? Would think that the yams rather than the spfl have duty of care for their players so if they think it's unsafe they should stop playing. Or reduce training. Maybe go part time.

[Waxy]

Reckon they're scared we might hit them for 7 again in the last derby.

[stokesmessiah]

They really are disgusting. What exactly would happen if they did catch one of the other teams??

[Hibee87]

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I'm convinced this ugly freak, will just do anything and everything he can, to look as if he tried his all to help Hearts. So when the padlocks are up, and he recieves his firms million pound cheque, he will feel at ease with himself.

Had a similiar discussion witha colleague tyhe other day,

BDO seem to specialise in administration of football clubs. If they went in and liquidated hearts quickly, any team in the future who enter admin would prob be thinking twice about appointing BDO. However what BDo have done here is take on a basketcase of a club and are making all the right noised about trying to save this prou institution blah blah blah, so in future any club entering admin might think oh that BDO seem to try the hardest.

[Caversham Green]

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They really are disgusting. What exactly would happen if they did catch one of the other teams??

If Killie or one of the other clubs go into administration HoMFC immediately have an unfair advantage unless they're allowed to sign players too.

[GloryGlory]

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If they have concerns about health and safety and the embargo isn't lifted, can we expect them to withdraw from some games? Would think that the yams rather than the spfl have duty of care for their players so if they think it's unsafe they should stop playing. Or reduce training. Maybe go part time.

It's up to the Yams as employer to comply with H&S legislation and to exercise a duty of care towards their employees' wellbeing.

It is also up to the Yams as a member club to comply with the rules of the SFA/SPFL.

[GloryGlory]

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"Heart's administrators fear that unless they become more competitive in the second half of the season, home crowds at Tynecastle could dwindle, which would be a serious financial blow......"

They are only concerned when the financial blows are on them and not when they are blowing the finances of others. Home crowds were vastly increased during the years of financial doping so wild swings in equilibrium ought to be expected and deserved. Wee crowds, wee team, we laugh.

Well, every team that isn't doing well tends to suffer a fall-off in attendances. So what?

And anyway, haven't they got 10k+ season tickets, so the potential for fall-off is actually quite limited.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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"Heart's administrators fear that unless they become more competitive in the second half of the season, home crowds at Tynecastle could dwindle, which would be a serious financial blow......"

They are only concerned when the financial blows are on them and not when they are blowing the finances of others. Home crowds were vastly increased during the years of financial doping so wild swings in equilibrium ought to be expected and deserved. Wee crowds, wee team, we laugh.

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They really are disgusting. What exactly would happen if they did catch one of the other teams??

I'm sure they would do the sporting thing and take relegation anyway.

[Onion]

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If they have concerns about health and safety and the embargo isn't lifted, can we expect them to withdraw from some games? Would think that the yams rather than the spfl have duty of care for their players so if they think it's unsafe they should stop playing. Or reduce training. Maybe go part time.

Let's see what action they take. Next stage should be take it to the PFA - if they have genuine concerns about the health or safety of their employees.

Everyone knows this is going nowhere. Yams cheating and coniving since 1874.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

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If they have concerns about health and safety and the embargo isn't lifted, can we expect them to withdraw from some games? Would think that the yams rather than the spfl have duty of care for their players so if they think it's unsafe they should stop playing. Or reduce training. Maybe go part time.

Why don't the players complain to the union if they are so scared about their H&S?

This is total BS from BDO and frankly embarrassing...and I'm loving it

[TrinityHibs]

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Well, every team that isn't doing well tends to suffer a fall-off in attendances. So what?

And anyway, haven't they got 10k+ season tickets, so the potential for fall-off is actually quite limited.

I think the drop from 400,000 to 10,000 might be more than limited. Still tell them to stroll on.

[Just Alf]

They keep going on about how Rangers/The Rangers were treated better and got time before the registration embargo......

You know what? The SPFL/SFA should turn around now and say

"on reflection the over 21's embargo we gave you for not paying players was a bit mean, so yes, as of today we're cancelling the punishment. you want to be just like Rangers so of course the embargo for being in admin still stands, all you have to do is come out of admin, or like Rangers, liquidate and become a new club, we're sure "The Hearts" can sign someone"

[Onion]

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It's up to the Yams as employer to comply with H&S legislation and to exercise a duty of care towards their employees' wellbeing.

It is also up to the Yams as a member club to comply with the rules of the SFA/SPFL.

This is an employer who refused to pay its employees, so really think they'll give a toss about H&S legislation ? IMHO this is merely the start of the games. The whining and excuses will grow increasingly desperate and extreme as the weeks go by, and the money runs out.

Expect more.

[robinp]

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They keep going on about how Rangers/The Rangers were treated better and got time before the registration embargo...... You know what? The SPFL/SFA should turn around now and say "on reflection the over 21's embargo we gave you for not paying players was a bit mean, so yes, as of today we're cancelling the punishment. you want to be just like Rangers so of course the embargo for being in admin still stands, all you have to do is come out of admin, or like Rangers, liquidate and become a new club, we're sure "The Hearts" can sign someone"

This is the best bit, rangers also got an immediate embargo on their intention to appoint an admin and Daniel Cousin was not registered by the SFA. NEWCO got a bit of leeway, not Oldco in administration. Another YAM lie being spouted!

2 totally different scenarios.

[steviehibsleith]

Says we are no threat in the league but omits that additional players will help them in the Semi of the league cup. For arguments sake they are allowed to sign a few players and they beat Inverness , cheating again and the governing bodies allowed it.

[Onion]

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They really are disgusting. What exactly would happen if they did catch one of the other teams??

Not only that, if they're allowed to add more/better players that will affect all their results and could have an impact on top 6 / Euro places.

Said before, this is just posturing by BDO and the SPFL will tell them to GTF. The people who have cocked this up is HMFC - on one else, no excuses.

[Onion]

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Says we are no threat in the league but omits that additional players will help them in the Semi of the league cup. For arguments sake they are allowed to sign a few players and they beat Inverness , cheating again and the governing bodies allowed it.

Allow them to sign players on following conditions:

1. they forfeit their SPFL place and accept relegation at end of season irrespective of position.
2. they forfeit all matches 0-3, irrespective of score.
3. they forfeit the LC semi 0-3 to ICT.
4. they apologise to every other SPFL/Scottish club.
5. away fans are allowed into the PBS for free for rest of season.

Commit to that, and we'll have a think about lifting the embargo. Get back to you in a couple of weeks

[Phil D. Rolls]

If we see the public face of Billy Brown, imagine what he's like behind closed doors? I reckon Jackson has to face the snot nosed little guttersnipe daily, and try to reason with him.

I reckon this is as much about humouring Brown as anyone else.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Read Bob Dylan McGowan's rant in today's paper about them not knowing what Romanov's regime were up to and how the players have been hit hard by the sanctions. Well Bob, perhaps if you looked for a new club who were more professionally run and looked after their staff a little better then you and your jumbo chums wouldn't feel so bitter about your sorry state of affairs. You must remember, you were happy to collect continual late wages so don't come out with all this pizh now. You and yer mates KNEW exactly what was round the corner. So don't kid yourselves. No wonder Scottish fitbaw wants your lot down!

[Onion]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...-kick-3003380?

As we all knew, this is going nowhere.

[GreenLake]

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If we see the public face of Billy Brown, imagine what he's like behind closed doors? I reckon Jackson has to face the snot nosed little guttersnipe daily, and try to reason with him.

I reckon this is as much about humouring Brown as anyone else.

I thought his contract was ending this month. He is making a song and dance for an extension otherwise he'll be at the soup kitchens in a week or two.

[Weststandwanab]

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Had a similiar discussion witha colleague tyhe other day,

BDO seem to specialise in administration of football clubs. If they went in and liquidated hearts quickly, any team in the future who enter admin would prob be thinking twice about appointing BDO. However what BDo have done here is take on a basketcase of a club and are making all the right noised about trying to save this prou institution blah blah blah, so in future any club entering admin might think oh that BDO seem to try the hardest.

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