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[jacomo]

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With Neil 'financial armageddon' Doncaster in charge at the SPFL I would never say never.

Why is he still in charge again? Lamentable track record.

[Ozyhibby]

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With Neil 'financial armageddon' Doncaster in charge at the SPFL I would never say never.

He is not in charge of anything. He is a representative of the clubs, our own included. All decisions are made by the clubs. He just gets sent out to explain them and take the flak.

[Gus Fring]

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He is not in charge of anything. He is a representative of the clubs, our own included. All decisions are made by the clubs. He just gets sent out to explain them and take the flak.

Correct, he's a figurehead at best. The clubs would be able to remove him if they so desired. Same with Ralph Topping. He's got another job to be getting on with as well.

[147lothian]

It's making scottish football look a joke the way that rangers were claiming 45,000 at ibrox when they were in the 3rd when you could see all the empty spaces in the stands, the same happens at parkhead. The yams are doing the exact same with their claims of 13,000 every week, the true figure is well short of that, they have no shame or integrety

[CropleyWasGod]

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Why is he still in charge again? Lamentable track record.

Rod speaks very highly of him.

[Ozyhibby]

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Rod speaks very highly of him.

He does indeed.

[Springbank]

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BJ is easily the most competent operator of Hearts for decades. Not much of an accolade, it's true.

His two great achievements in post are:

1) getting hmfc to pay some bills (albeit no debt repayments)

And

2) exposing them as an absolute cringe of a club

Going begging not once but twice for leniency has just allowed everyone to be reminded what a soulless callous self-serving group of people hmfc are, just ask Arbroath, Stenhousemuir, Musselburgh Athletic

Hearts will trample all over the grass roots of Scottish football at any and every opportunity - they care not for the sport but for themselves alone

Jackson has inadvertently reminded us all of that

[Keith_M]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered before but...aren't they allowed to sign under 21 players during the Transfer Window?




IF that's correct, it would kinda ruin their argument.

[Aldo]

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Sorry if this has been asked and answered before but...aren't they allowed to sign under 21 players during the Transfer Window? IF that's correct, it would kinda ruin their argument.

They are not allowed to sign players whilst they are still in admin.

[davemcbain]

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Sorry if this has been asked and answered before but...aren't they allowed to sign under 21 players during the Transfer Window? IF that's correct, it would kinda ruin their argument.

Where's Vlad when they need him? He'd look at that statement and sign 20 players, claim the rules allowed under 21 and call the press monkeys (the last one, just because he can).

[Gus Fring]

FWIH The SFA and SPFL are both unwilling to move on this. They were actually annoyed they managed to keep Danny Wilson in the summer.

All these threats etc are not having the desired effect. If anything it's having the opposite effect because the other clubs have been very vocal behind the scenes about them not buckling

The SFA want to stop this financial mismanagement now and they are determined on setting a precedent with Hearts.

The message here is "Run your clubs in an appropriate manner or look what will happen"

[Aldo]

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Where's Vlad when they need him? He'd look at that statement and sign 20 players, claim the rules allowed under 21 and call the press monkeys (the last one, just because he can).

Article from 2004

Tynecastle awaits the bulldozers Anger as Hearts agree £ 22m deal with house builders Cala
Rob Robertson
Friday 20 August 2004
Campaigners hoping to keep Hearts at Tynecastle claimed last night that Chris Robinson, the chief executive, was forcing through the sale of the ground.

In a statement to the Stock Exchange yesterday, the club announced they had conditionally agreed a £ 22m deal with Edinburgh-based Cala Management who will build houses on the site. Opponents of the plan claimed Robinson was ''railroading'' the proposal through to help avoid administration and to alleviate the club's debt which stands at nearly £ 19m. They also feared Hearts will become ''the orphans of Scottish football'' and struggle to find the cash to build aground. Hearts will rent Murrayfield at £ 20,000 per game, which is £ 10,000 less than Inverness Caley Thistle pay Aberdeen for renting Pittodrie. Hearts will stay there until a ground is built. Mark Laidlaw, of the SRU, was confident the Murrayfield pitch could be kept to international standards despite Edinburgh Rugby, Hearts and the national rugby team all possibly playing there. The club's directors tried to put a shine on the proposal by making great play of the fact that a working party, chaired by Lord Macaulay, had been set up to try to find a home for Hearts. They have until the end of January to come up with a site. Sighthill and Saughton, on the west side of Edinburgh, and Straiton, Midlothian, are three of the venues being considered. The possibility of trying to find a way to stay at Tynecastle is also on the list, with a lease back scheme proposed by the former chairman Leslie Deans and Robert McGrail on the table. However, George Foulkes, the Hearts chairman, warned the Tynecastle supporters not to expect a last-minute reprieve. Angry reaction from supporters was swift last night with a group laying a wreath at the main door of Tynecastle. Fans gathered outside the ground and police had to be called to keep as Robinson left the building after announcing the conditional sale. Deans described it as '' a sad day for Hearts'' and called on supporters to stop the plan. ''You have to ask how the club got itself into this disastrous financial position and the reasons why they are having to sell Tynecastle,'' said Deans. Gary Mackay, the former Hearts midfielder, accused Robinson of forcing the club into the sale. He called on him to resign. Robinson later rejected that demand but was non-committal over whether he would still be in charge of Hearts when they moved to a new stadium. Mackay said: ''The club have £ 19m debts and will bring in at the most £ 22m, from the sale of Tynecastle which would leave just £ 3m towards the cost of a new stadium. The rest of the cash would presumably have to come from the club in the form of a mortgage which would put them in debt again. Robinson is simply railroading this sale through. I am not convinced a new ground will be built and am worried Hearts will be the orphans of the football world.'' Derek Watson, of the Save Our Hearts campaign, said they would fight to the end to keep the club in Gorgie. ''We just hope the board honours its vow to give the working party trying to find a new stadium for Hearts, which includes the option of staying at Tynecastle, time to come to a conclusion.'' Time is clearly not on their side. With borrowings standing at £ 13.72m and around £ 5.4m due to investors Scottish Media Group, Foulkes admitted the club had been close to going into administration and the sale of Tynecastle was imperative to keep the club alive. At present, 46.3% of the club's issued share capital are backing the plan to sell the ground to Cala. Halifax/Bank of Scotland has a 5% share in the club and will not vote against the plan which means those in favour of the sell-off have the majority. An extraordinary general meeting will be held on September 13 to discuss the matter but small shareholders may have to accept the deal, regardless of their views. There were nine bids put in for the Tynecastle site and the highest came from the Stewart Milne Group who had bid £ 24m but the Hearts board felt the Cala bid was ''the best all-round offer'' on the table.

[Aldo]

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FWIH The SFA and SPFL are both unwilling to move on this. They were actually annoyed they managed to keep Danny Wilson in the summer. All these threats etc are not having the desired effect. If anything it's having the opposite effect because the other clubs have been very vocal behind the scenes about them not buckling The SFA want to stop this financial mismanagement now and they are determined on setting a precedent with Hearts. The message here is "Run your clubs in an appropriate manner or look what will happen"

Pleasing and for me was never and never is in doubt.

[Saorsa]

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FWIH The SFA and SPFL are both unwilling to move on this. They were actually annoyed they managed to keep Danny Wilson in the summer.

All these threats etc are not having the desired effect. If anything it's having the opposite effect because the other clubs have been very vocal behind the scenes about them not buckling

The SFA want to stop this financial mismanagement now and they are determined on setting a precedent with Hearts.

The message here is "Run your clubs in an appropriate manner or look what will happen"

I like this post, the bit in bold is as the ****s would say, pleasing.


Cheated, time tae pay the penalty

[The_Todd]

That's what people keep forgetting with this. The punishments were laid down as a deterrent, and when Rangers went to the wall Hearts should have realised no club was too big to fail and done something about their own predicament pronto.

They didn't and now they'll just have to live with it. They'll be an example for other clubs to try and avoid following.

[haagsehibby]

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They are not allowed to sign players whilst they are still in admin.

They can sign as many players as they want, they can't register them (Now, where's that pedantic smiley ? )

[Aldo]

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They can sign as many players as they want, they can't register them (Now, where's that pedantic smiley ? )

I stand corrected. But that's wasn't my take on it all. :-D

[Dashing Bob S]

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FWIH The SFA and SPFL are both unwilling to move on this. They were actually annoyed they managed to keep Danny Wilson in the summer.

All these threats etc are not having the desired effect. If anything it's having the opposite effect because the other clubs have been very vocal behind the scenes about them not buckling

The SFA want to stop this financial mismanagement now and they are determined on setting a precedent with Hearts.

The message here is "Run your clubs in an appropriate manner or look what will happen"

The 'campaign' is solely designed to galvanise Jambo's in a siege mentality, in order to make them more susceptible to one more 'dig deep' campaign when they hit those clowns up for more cash when the monies run out in a couple of months and a CVA is still no more than FOH/BDO wishful thinking and hot air.

[jacomo]

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Rod speaks very highly of him.

Rod spoke highly of Calderwood.

[tamig]

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FWIH The SFA and SPFL are both unwilling to move on this. They were actually annoyed they managed to keep Danny Wilson in the summer.

All these threats etc are not having the desired effect. If anything it's having the opposite effect because the other clubs have been very vocal behind the scenes about them not buckling

The SFA want to stop this financial mismanagement now and they are determined on setting a precedent with Hearts.

The message here is "Run your clubs in an appropriate manner or look what will happen"

Very uplifting news. Re the bit in bold, what a fine example to base the precedent on.

[Onion]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...earts-3001084?

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[CyberSauzee]

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Article from 2004

Tynecastle awaits the bulldozers Anger as Hearts agree £ 22m deal with house builders Cala
Rob Robertson
Friday 20 August 2004
Campaigners hoping to keep Hearts at Tynecastle claimed last night that Chris Robinson, the chief executive, was forcing through the sale of the ground.

In a statement to the Stock Exchange yesterday, the club announced they had conditionally agreed a £ 22m deal with Edinburgh-based Cala Management who will build houses on the site. Opponents of the plan claimed Robinson was ''railroading'' the proposal through to help avoid administration and to alleviate the club's debt which stands at nearly £ 19m. They also feared Hearts will become ''the orphans of Scottish football'' and struggle to find the cash to build aground. Hearts will rent Murrayfield at £ 20,000 per game, which is £ 10,000 less than Inverness Caley Thistle pay Aberdeen for renting Pittodrie. Hearts will stay there until a ground is built. Mark Laidlaw, of the SRU, was confident the Murrayfield pitch could be kept to international standards despite Edinburgh Rugby, Hearts and the national rugby team all possibly playing there. The club's directors tried to put a shine on the proposal by making great play of the fact that a working party, chaired by Lord Macaulay, had been set up to try to find a home for Hearts. They have until the end of January to come up with a site. Sighthill and Saughton, on the west side of Edinburgh, and Straiton, Midlothian, are three of the venues being considered. The possibility of trying to find a way to stay at Tynecastle is also on the list, with a lease back scheme proposed by the former chairman Leslie Deans and Robert McGrail on the table. However, George Foulkes, the Hearts chairman, warned the Tynecastle supporters not to expect a last-minute reprieve. Angry reaction from supporters was swift last night with a group laying a wreath at the main door of Tynecastle. Fans gathered outside the ground and police had to be called to keep as Robinson left the building after announcing the conditional sale. Deans described it as '' a sad day for Hearts'' and called on supporters to stop the plan. ''You have to ask how the club got itself into this disastrous financial position and the reasons why they are having to sell Tynecastle,'' said Deans. Gary Mackay, the former Hearts midfielder, accused Robinson of forcing the club into the sale. He called on him to resign. Robinson later rejected that demand but was non-committal over whether he would still be in charge of Hearts when they moved to a new stadium. Mackay said: ''The club have £ 19m debts and will bring in at the most £ 22m, from the sale of Tynecastle which would leave just £ 3m towards the cost of a new stadium. The rest of the cash would presumably have to come from the club in the form of a mortgage which would put them in debt again. Robinson is simply railroading this sale through. I am not convinced a new ground will be built and am worried Hearts will be the orphans of the football world.'' Derek Watson, of the Save Our Hearts campaign, said they would fight to the end to keep the club in Gorgie. ''We just hope the board honours its vow to give the working party trying to find a new stadium for Hearts, which includes the option of staying at Tynecastle, time to come to a conclusion.'' Time is clearly not on their side. With borrowings standing at £ 13.72m and around £ 5.4m due to investors Scottish Media Group, Foulkes admitted the club had been close to going into administration and the sale of Tynecastle was imperative to keep the club alive. At present, 46.3% of the club's issued share capital are backing the plan to sell the ground to Cala. Halifax/Bank of Scotland has a 5% share in the club and will not vote against the plan which means those in favour of the sell-off have the majority. An extraordinary general meeting will be held on September 13 to discuss the matter but small shareholders may have to accept the deal, regardless of their views. There were nine bids put in for the Tynecastle site and the highest came from the Stewart Milne Group who had bid £ 24m but the Hearts board felt the Cala bid was ''the best all-round offer'' on the table.

Very interesting to read that from nearly 10 years ago.

It just shows the nonsense touted about that no-one will touch the site for redevelopment because of the bad press they'll get.

[The_Todd]

This is getting tiresome.

You know what, Kickback can never again harp on about some media conspiracy against Hearts.

[CyberSauzee]

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...earts-3001084?

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Interesting to see the colour that comes up when you click on the correct choice (currently at 60%).

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Interesting to see the colour that comes up when you click on the correct choice (currently at 60%).

currently 82% against the embargo being lifted


that looks as bad(for them) as the 81% v 19% game

[PatHead]

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FWIH The SFA and SPFL are both unwilling to move on this. They were actually annoyed they managed to keep Danny Wilson in the summer.

All these threats etc are not having the desired effect. If anything it's having the opposite effect because the other clubs have been very vocal behind the scenes about them not buckling

The SFA want to stop this financial mismanagement now and they are determined on setting a precedent with Hearts.

The message here is "Run your clubs in an appropriate manner or look what will happen"

Not as annoyed as Dundee Utd who had "agreed" a deal with him before they were gazumped. (Think Preston is his agent but will stand corrected on that point.) The first is a fact.

[linlithgowhibbie]

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Interesting to see the colour that comes up when you click on the correct choice (currently at 60%).

Now at 82 per cent

[Aldo]

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Now at 82 per cent

It's a conspiracy I tell ye a conspiracy ;-)

[Saorsa]

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...earts-3001084?

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I'm going tae make an exception and click a dailybogroll link, I feel I must dae my duty and vote in that poll.

[Aldo]

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I'm going tae make an exception and click a dailybogroll link, I feel I must dae my duty and vote in that poll.

You be careful mind. It's a big bad world out there. ;-)