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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    CVA approved


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    CVA approved
    F.u.k.I.n booooooooooooooooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filled Rolls View Post
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    Why not say, "the reports are correct"?
    Because they are pretentious wannabes?

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    oh well

    more parties down gorgie way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague View Post
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    oh well

    more parties down gorgie way
    Not so sure about that....

    Looonnnggg way to go yet, like where are the shares?...

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    Typical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    Typical
    Knew this would happen H.

    Lots of twists & turns still to go.

    Btw it's "on condition of purchase of UBIG shares"

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    So their out of admin by transfer window or will they still have to wait for UBIG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by green glory View Post
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    @The_FoH: CVA - first stage passed at 87% of vote.
    What does first stage bit mean? Could it still fall through or is the rest a formality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    Typical
    It wasn't a surprise really, there's still a long way to go before they're out of trouble, don't get frustrated- just sit back and enjoy what's to come.

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    They still have to buy the shares from UBIG.....chill people.

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    So they have slithered out of the mess typical

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    They still have to buy the shares from UBIG.....chill people.
    Is that not what's just been agreed?

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    [CVA] Ukio voted in favour, Ubig abstained.

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    UBIG abstained from this morning's vote #heartscva

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    Stage 5 is completing deal in required timescale.
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    Heart of Midlothian ‏@JamTarts 8m
    Stage 4 is sale and purchase agreement
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    Stage 3 is securing shares from UBIG.
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    Stage 2 is members meeting today. 50% of votes in favour requires.
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    CVA - first stage passed at 87% of vote.
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    BREAKING: 87% of creditors vote in favour of CVA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Is that not what's just been agreed?
    No..

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    Ukio voted in favour as expected UBIG abstained

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    Still a ways to go yet, FoH need to cobble together some serious money to get the shares from UBIG - which correct me if I'm wrong - can't be bought until UBIG's assets are unfrozen. Not out of the woods just yet.

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    So their out of admin by transfer window or will they still have to wait for UBIG?
    Have to wait for UBIG, it will be into Feb at earliest, probably more likely March (or not at all if they can't get the shares).

    I must say that although this has been coming I'm still surprised Valnetas took half the value of Tiny. Strange one.

    I'm a bit disappointed they'll probably survive but even in death we'd still have had a zombie Hearts reappearing, so it doesn't make that much odds in the long run. We just need Tel to get us into some sort of shape and skelp them twice on their way down. Their relegation will still be worth some big grins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    [CVA] Ukio voted in favour, Ubig abstained.
    So basically what we were told would happen, happened! Per EN last night though this still means nothing happens before Feb at earliest. I'm intrigued as to why UKIO & UBIG are taking a different stance given that UBIG was only effectively the investment arm of UKIO. Still a long way to go methinks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brog View Post
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    So basically what we were told would happen, happened! Per EN last night though this still means nothing happens before Feb at earliest. I'm intrigued as to why UKIO & UBIG are taking a different stance given that UBIG was only effectively the investment arm of UKIO. Still a long way to go methinks!
    Exactly. Everything is fine.. Nothing new here.

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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. UBIG abstained. That's a pretty major plot point as they are the major shareholder. All this means is the creditors have agreed to take nothing for the money they are owed. Nothing more. UBIG could still demand a large sum for their shares for all we know

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Have to wait for UBIG, it will be into Feb at earliest, probably more likely March (or not at all if they can't get the shares).

    I must say that although this has been coming I'm still surprised Valnetas took half the value of Tiny. Strange one.

    I'm a bit disappointed they'll probably survive but even in death we'd still have had a zombie Hearts reappearing, so it doesn't make that much odds in the long run. We just need Tel to get us into some sort of shape and skelp them twice on their way down. Their relegation will still be worth some big grins.
    Half? A quarter more like

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Have to wait for UBIG, it will be into Feb at earliest, probably more likely March (or not at all if they can't get the shares).

    I must say that although this has been coming I'm still surprised Valnetas took half the value of Tiny. Strange one.

    I'm a bit disappointed they'll probably survive but even in death we'd still have had a zombie Hearts reappearing, so it doesn't make that much odds in the long run. We just need Tel to get us into some sort of shape and skelp them twice on their way down. Their relegation will still be worth some big grins.

    Can you expand on this please?

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    Can you expand on this please?
    In what way? FoH got it valued at £5.5M. I guess you wouldn't get full value in a liquidation sale but £5M doesn't seem unreasonable. They're actually getting £2.5M. BDO costs would be deducted either way. I suppose this way they get the reduced sum a bit quicker?

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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. UBIG abstained. That's a pretty major plot point as they are the major shareholder. All this means is the creditors have agreed to take nothing for the money they are owed. Nothing more. UBIG could still demand a large sum for their shares for all we know
    Could ubig agree and not demand a huge price for the shares?

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    They still have the second stage vote at the shareholders meeting at 12.00 - need 50% to vote in favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    They still have to buy the shares from UBIG.....chill people.
    Speaking from ignorance perhaps, but aren't Ubig and Ukios essentially joined at the hip and unlikely to work against the interests of each other? I reckon things will run comparatively smoothly for the Jambos now. My only fear is that all concerned including the SPFL will try to fast-track them back to undeserved good health. Relegation and what that brings is our main weapon. A good trouncing from Celtic in the cup could set them up for a torrid time in the remaining league matches. I hope Killie get their act together and leave them high and dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. UBIG abstained. That's a pretty major plot point as they are the major shareholder. All this means is the creditors have agreed to take nothing for the money they are owed. Nothing more. UBIG could still demand a large sum for their shares for all we know
    Quick question Bajillions - how does the final figure work - all creditors get a right to vote and their votes if you like are in proportion to their debt due. Does the 87% figure represent the ones who said yes out of the ones who did inded return a vote at all - so if in theory all creditors had abstained ( or not bothered to return a vote) like UBIG and only UKIo bothered returning a vote it would have been 100% ?

    An an observation - UBIG admin must realise ( hard not to) that they are siting on the last piece to complete the deal the 50% sahreholding in hearts - why would they even entertain taking nothing for them ? Surely they could say well give us say £500k and they are yours ? I cannot fathom that one out - I know BDO and FOH are saying they are technically "worthless" but they are required to have a mojority shareholding so they are not worthless at all - is that not like that old dears shares in Hibs who she refused to flog to FTB mercer back in the hearts takeover battle - forget her name now ? They were worthless on paper but Mercer was gubbed without them ?
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