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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

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  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

    171 11.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glory Lurker View Post
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    Where's your ambition, man? Is there no way we could relegate them on 2 Jan?
    Would be nice but I reckon there's no chance unfortunately.


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    Where's your ambition, man? Is there no way we could relegate them on 2 Jan?
    After Wed's horror, the very last team we want to play again is the Yams. If they get relegated it will be in spite of us rather than because so let's just leave it to the proper football teams to sort them out

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    Take it there's no been much happening since the CVA announcement then? Sadly I don't think there's much chance of liquidation anymore. They'll prob stay in admin for a while yet until the UBIG shares problem is resolved. But ultimately I think it will be resolved, it's just a matter of when. They'll still struggle with FoH in charge and with the (hopefully) inevitable relegation. But in a few years they'll be back with a considerably better outlook and lower debt. Only problem they'll be left with will be their crumbling stadium and no funds to improve it unless god decides to do them a favour by lobbing a metior at it.

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    Take it there's no been much happening since the CVA announcement then? Sadly I don't think there's much chance of liquidation anymore. They'll prob stay in admin for a while yet until the UBIG shares problem is resolved. But ultimately I think it will be resolved, it's just a matter of when. They'll still struggle with FoH in charge and with the (hopefully) inevitable relegation. But in a few years they'll be back with a considerably better outlook and lower debt. Only problem they'll be left with will be their crumbling stadium and no funds to improve it unless god decides to do them a favour by lobbing a metior at it.
    I have heard suggestions that the FOH is a cashless front to secure the club and will hand over everything in a debt for equity to those that fronted the money in the first place.
    They are very optimistic.

    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital View Post
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    Only problem they'll be left with will be their crumbling stadium and no funds to improve it unless god decides to do them a favour by lobbing a metior at it.
    He tried that in December 1999 but the damn thing got caught in the back of the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawheid View Post
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    He tried that in December 1999 but the damn thing got caught in the back of the net.
    ^^^^ best post i've seen on here for ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawheid View Post
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    He tried that in December 1999 but the damn thing got caught in the back of the net.


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    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...VHATOwz-RJqhng

    Hope this keeps the shares in the freezer for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...VHATOwz-RJqhng

    Hope this keeps the shares in the freezer for a few years.
    "Republic of Srpska in Banja Luka"

    Come on. Now they're just inventing countries.

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    "Republic of Srpska in Banja Luka"

    Come on. Now they're just inventing countries.
    It's actually an Anagram of '5-1 **** the hibs'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    "Republic of Srpska in Banja Luka"

    Come on. Now they're just inventing countries.
    Banja Luka is a city. Republic Srpska is the government for the Serbian bits of Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter View Post
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    Banja Luka is a city. Republic Srpska is the government for the Serbian bits of Bosnia.
    So you say!!!

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    Bloomberg:

    Ukio Bankas Seeks 1.3b Litai Damages From Ex-Owners, Directors

    Romanov has repeatedly denied wrongdoing; prosecutors in July began international search for Romanov, who left Lithuania in May, BNS news service reported

    Some Ukio loans went to now also bankrupt Ukio Banko Investicine Grupe, through which Romanov controlled 79% of Scottish soccer club Heart of Midlothian

    Lithuanian state deposit insurance, which borrowed money from govt for Ukio bankruptcy, is largest creditor
    I think the fact that they are going after the directors/owners for the Lita 1.3 bn (£300 million) which is the rough cost of the bailout to make the depositors of Ukio whole. To me it means that the they are not going to hold Hearts responsible for the scam (although Bloomberg points out the Ukio’s loans went to UBIG and then on to Hearts something I have always maintained) and that will not punish what they see as an innocent party for Romanov’s £70 million Hearts scams. That to me leads me to believe that they will accept the CVA and at least obtain some of the money that Romanov blew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiberlin View Post
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    One more reason why we need a top 6 finish.


    the 4th league game against hertz would be at ER therefore they wouldn't get any more cash from a 4th game with us, unfortunately that would also mean us having to finish in the bottom 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by desantos0773 View Post
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    98) Options BFW Nov 05 2013 14:37:56
    Ukio Bankas Seeks 1.3b Litai Damages From Ex-Owners, Directors 91) ☆
    it to insolvency
    • NOTE: Romanov has repeatedly denied wrongdoing; prosecutors in July began
    international search for Romanov, who left Lithuania in May, BNS news service
    reported
    NOTE: Some Ukio loans went to now also bankrupt Ukio Banko Investicine Grupe,
    through which Romanov controlled 79% of Scottish soccer club Heart of
    Midlothian

    • NOTE: Lithuanian state deposit insurance, which borrowed money from govt for
    Ukio bankruptcy, is largest creditor
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    I might be missing something subliminal here, but where does that Bloomberg statement state that Adomis of the Ukio administrator is going to accept a CVA? As far as I'm aware, a CVA hasn't even been presented.

    The crux of the story looks to be that the creditors of the bank are after 1.3 billion Lith Litas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergey View Post
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    I might be missing something subliminal here, but where does that Bloomberg statement state that Adomis of the Ukio administrator is going to accept a CVA? As far as I'm aware, a CVA hasn't even been presented.

    The crux of the story looks to be that the creditors of the bank are after 1.3 billion Lith Litas.
    1.3 billion Lith Litas = ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    1.3 billion Lith Litas = ???
    £316m roughly

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokesmessiah View Post
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    £316m roughly
    So they're going to try to sue absent directors of UKIO for £300m+ yet they'll let a £6m+ asset go for peanuts? Can't see it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    1.3 billion Lith Litas = ???
    This is actually yesterday's news and I'm not sure if it's 1.2 billion Litas or 1.2 billion US$ as this translated article states both: http://translate.googleusercontent.c...HyyGVZE2TWR-xw

    This bit is pleasing:

    "Applicant status will allow us to actively participate in the study and the basis for the suspects property ownership restrictions. In turn, this opens the way to search for a specific prosecutor to arrest assets. In other words, cooperation with law enforcement takes on the form and content and we will be much easier to arrest the former shareholders and managers of the property in order to ensure the bank's creditors and minority shareholders' interests ", - said the bank BAB An insolvency administrator Amber Adomonis.
    I don't see the PBS and/or the UBIG shares changing hands any time soon, if indeed at all.

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    Not wishing to speak for desantos but is his post headline perhaps sarcastic?
    It is and he/she, in my opinion, types a lot of sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    So they're going to try to sue absent directors of UKIO for £300m+ yet they'll let a £6m+ asset go for peanuts? Can't see it myself.
    Neither can I.

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    It is and he/she, in my opinion, types a lot of sense.

    Neither can I.
    I'm in that club - they are toast.

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    You're correct, they'll be hit with another penalty if still in admin at end of his season.
    New rules might be in place by then.http://www.lawinsport.com/blog/adam-...JhdGlvbiI7fQ==

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    #Hearts' administrators BDO have sent a CVA proposal to creditors for £2.5m sale of club to @The_FoH. Creditors' meeting on 22 Nov. #HMFC




    Oooooh, juicy news from Barry Fandanderson.

    'Mon, the Lithuanian Creditor's Association. Do the right thing, you owe to yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    #Hearts' administrators BDO have sent a CVA proposal to creditors for £2.5m sale of club to @The_FoH. Creditors' meeting on 22 Nov. #HMFC


    How could anyone owed £15m, with a security on a stadium for £6.8m POSSIBLY resist the offer of £2.5m? Yet we all know ultimately it will happen because the whole business of administration in football is ****ing corrupt.

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    Hmmm pbs is surely worth significantly more than that alone?

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    It doesn't necessarily, if someone decides to buy Tynie as a football stadium and rent it to them.
    Except that landlords tend to want references these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuanH78 View Post
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    Hmmm pbs is surely worth significantly more than that alone?
    Yeah, like Ibrox and Murray park was worth £1.5m and East End Park was worth £150,000.

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    Did the mad Italian not make an offer of £4 Mill which fell at the first fence. And how much did the gaga pensioner from Peebles bid? Sure it was at least 2.5 Mill. So how do BDO get the lot, lock stock and barrel for £2.5Mill?

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