Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[Saorsa]

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Right enough, we'd be in serious danger if they ceased to exist.

I'm genuinely not sure if I want them to disappear and form a new club. On one hand it would be funny to see them start up as a new club with no trophies or history. But on the other hand, they give me so much fun at the moment....skint, sheeeite, bottom of the league, rinsing charities, employing cagey people, Pyjama Man, Nerijus Barasa, missing plasmas, the black box, Callum Elliot and his disco pants, RRevolution, Roman Romanov and their pink stands with different coloured seats.

I'm in quite the pickle here.

Nae pickle here, get them tae ****

[Eyrie]

Less pickle and more embalming fluid for the Yams please.

[kaimendhibs]

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Right enough, we'd be in serious danger if they ceased to exist.

I'm genuinely not sure if I want them to disappear and form a new club. On one hand it would be funny to see them start up as a new club with no trophies or history. But on the other hand, they give me so much fun at the moment....skint, sheeeite, bottom of the league, rinsing charities, employing cagey people, Pyjama Man, Nerijus Barasa, missing plasmas, the black box, Callum Elliot and his disco pants, RRevolution, Roman Romanov and their pink stands with different coloured seats.

I'm in quite the pickle here.

Can see where you are coming from but, on reflection, nah, want them deid now!!!


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[fatbloke]

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I'd love a 5-a-side "debate" with JKB. Five of us from here and five from there. Five separate threads of singles matches followed up by a royal rumble free-for-all at the end.

Good old mud-slinging at its best. Nae Shaun_Lawson though, that laborious *ank would end up demanding it over two-legs with extra-time included.

That plum got me barred from JKB for life, never got the chance to thank him though.

[Crossgates Hibs]

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Right enough, we'd be in serious danger if they ceased to exist.

I'm genuinely not sure if I want them to disappear and form a new club. On one hand it would be funny to see them start up as a new club with no trophies or history. But on the other hand, they give me so much fun at the moment....skint, sheeeite, bottom of the league, rinsing charities, employing cagey people, Pyjama Man, Nerijus Barasa, missing plasmas, the black box, Callum Elliot and his disco pants, RRevolution, Roman Romanov and their pink stands with different coloured seats.

I'm in quite the pickle here.

Think how much better it would be seeing them homeless scrabbling around in div 2 clinging on to 5-1 trying to make out they are the same cheating *******s they were before.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Think how much better it would be seeing them homeless scrabbling around in div 2 clinging on to 5-1 trying to make out they are the same cheating *******s they were before.

This. So much this!

Imagine the sheer rage when we constantly refer to them as The Hearts.

Aye, that's swung it. Bin them!!

[Saorsa]

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Think how much better it would be seeing them homeless scrabbling around in div 2 clinging on to 5-1 trying to make out they are the same cheating *******s they were before.

Will the pyramid system no be in place by next season? They may no even get in at division 2 level but have tae apply tae join the Lowland league

[Pete]

Just been reading kickback and this is the post that stood out from all the white noise:

I may be in the minority here,the pub i drink in down Granton, hibs fans out number us by at least 10.1,but most of the guys go to hibs games and they say they would never want hearts to get relagated never mind going bust, as they like the banter and drinking in the Roseburn or Murrayfield hotel before heading to Tynie,in fact after the 5.1 game they all waited on our bus coming back and bought us drink all night


I'm not sure about sharing the sentiments about them getting relegated or going bust but this is a fairly accurate example of the way that fans behave towards each other in my experience. I used to drink in "mixed" pubs and it was the same type of stuff...handshakes and drinks for the winners even though you were pissed off.

As far as all this internet stuff goes, I miss the rivals.net days. You had Hibs.net, Jambos.net and a facility that let you easily see the other board and post on it if you want. There was banter but an element of respect at the same time and I actually found the vast majority of hearts fans were good guys who were just unfortunate enough to be born into the wrong way of thinking. The boards were a laugh and there was none of this "Sergey said this" or "Shaun said that" stuff because you were easily reachable and you could be challenged. It was similar to real life in that way. Nowadays, any muppet with a phone can create a persona and post hatred because its the easiest thing in the world to become an internet character. I'm not talking about anyone specifically on here when I say that, it's just a general observation.

[Crossgates Hibs]

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Will the pyramid system no be in place by next season? They may no even get in at division 2 level but have tae apply tae join the Lowland league

Dont that's just too much Div 2 and ground sharing is all I wish on them. Anything worse is just mean mind you? Mm tempting

[Pete]

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http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs...-county-clash/

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It will certainly have the players working their socks off for the fans. Good move from the fighting fund IMO.

I'm not sure if it will result in extra effort from the players but it's a good move nonetheless. I certainly don't see the problem with it (OK, apart from the obvious begging bowl stuff) and I would certainly fork out if Hibs were in this position and I had the money. The fans are the club and if that's what it takes to get them on the bus or staying in a hotel then there should be no negativity attached to it.

If they had got anything from the last two games it would have been a bonus but this game might even be considered a key one as far as avoiding relegation goes. This is a relegation rival and if they can get anything here then it won't only be points they will be gaining, it will be a hammer-blow to County's morale. A County win however, might knock the stuffing out of hearts and it's vital for a club to get the best preparation before such an important game.

Young teams are volatile and this hearts one is playing every game like it's the last time they will be together...because it might be. It's working to an extent because the fans are getting right behind the team in numbers and voice simply because they have to. Negativity on a Saturday in any way is not an option. I'll stop short of congratulating them but if they pull survival off it would be childish to not acknowledge the magnitude of the achievement given their resources and handicap this season.

Don't get me wrong, I've never wanted County to win a game so much in my life and I hope Ivan winds them up something rotten resulting in red cards for them...before he scores the winner.

[Crossgates Hibs]

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Just been reading kickback and this is the post that stood out from all the white noise:

I may be in the minority here,the pub i drink in down Granton, hibs fans out number us by at least 10.1,but most of the guys go to hibs games and they say they would never want hearts to get relagated never mind going bust, as they like the banter and drinking in the Roseburn or Murrayfield hotel before heading to Tynie,in fact after the 5.1 game they all waited on our bus coming back and bought us drink all night


I'm not sure about sharing the sentiments about them getting relegated or going bust but this is a fairly accurate example of the way that fans behave towards each other in my experience. I used to drink in "mixed" pubs and it was the same type of stuff...handshakes and drinks for the winners even though you were pissed off.

As far as all this internet stuff goes, I miss the rivals.net days. You had Hibs.net, Jambos.net and a facility that let you easily see the other board and post on it if you want. There was banter but an element of respect at the same time and I actually found the vast majority of hearts fans were good guys who were just unfortunate enough to be born into the wrong way of thinking. The boards were a laugh and there was none of this "Sergey said this" or "Shaun said that" stuff because you were easily reachable and you could be challenged. It was similar to real life in that way. Nowadays, any muppet with a phone can create a persona and post hatred because its the easiest thing in the world to become an internet character. I'm not talking about anyone specifically on here when I say that, it's just a general observation.

i know a few decent yams that don't give it the 5-1 pish and are decent guys whom Hearts are just their team none of which go regular I must add. My line to them is I don't want you to die just suffer for many years for your cheating. The baw bags from sick back well I hope your ****my club is scrabbling in the lower leagues homeless for many many years. I actually respect the average yam more than any Old firm fan at least they support their local team and not following the masses. However since Mercer and Vlad they really have been beyond the pale and need a big reality check which they will hopefully get and learn some humility though I won't hold my breath.

[greenginger]

I see from Heart's Companies House web-page, their annual return is now overdue.


Do BDO have to submit one ?

Interesting to see if they still name the Directors and what they say about the Share Issue that never was.

[dangermouse]

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I'm not sure if it will result in extra effort from the players but it's a good move nonetheless. I certainly don't see the problem with it (OK, apart from the obvious begging bowl stuff) and I would certainly fork out if Hibs were in this position and I had the money. The fans are the club and if that's what it takes to get them on the bus or staying in a hotel then there should be no negativity attached to it.

If they had got anything from the last two games it would have been a bonus but this game might even be considered a key one as far as avoiding relegation goes. This is a relegation rival and if they can get anything here then it won't only be points they will be gaining, it will be a hammer-blow to County's morale. A County win however, might knock the stuffing out of hearts and it's vital for a club to get the best preparation before such an important game.

Young teams are volatile and this hearts one is playing every game like it's the last time they will be together...because it might be. It's working to an extent because the fans are getting right behind the team in numbers and voice simply because they have to. Negativity on a Saturday in any way is not an option. I'll stop short of congratulating them but if they pull survival off it would be childish to not acknowledge the magnitude of the achievement given their resources and handicap this season.

Don't get me wrong, I've never wanted County to win a game so much in my life and I hope Ivan winds them up something rotten resulting in red cards for them...before he scores the winner.

I wonder if any of the players chipped in to help out with this? They must be earning more than the average fan.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I see from Heart's Companies House web-page, their annual return is now overdue.


Do BDO have to submit one ?

Interesting to see if they still name the Directors and what they say about the Share Issue that never was.

Legally, it's not BDO's responsibility, it's down to the Directors. In practice, though, yes they should.

[Caversham Green]

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This post is 100% correct so I have quoted it again for the hard of thinking. Bumping charities is the lowest of the low, bumping the charity that your club has recently associated itself with in a crass attempt at remembrance ownership and belittling of sacrifice is absolutely breathtaking.

Am I right in thinking that David Southern is chairman or something of Big Hearts? If so, allowing his employer to run up a debt of £34k to the charity he helps to run while knowing it won't be paid looks like rather worse than just low behaviour.

[greenginger]

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Am I right in thinking that David Southern is chairman or something of Big Hearts? If so, allowing his employer to run up a debt of £34k to the charity he helps to run while knowing it won't be paid looks like rather worse than just low behaviour.

Correct, Chief Executive of the obviously insolvent Hearts and Chairman of the Big Hearts Trust.

Not a question asked by the Scotsman or EEN or a word from the other trustees.

[GloryGlory]

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Correct, Chief Executive of the obviously insolvent Hearts and Chairman of the Big Hearts Trust.

Not a question asked by the Scotsman or EEN or a word from the other trustees.

There is the Office of the Scottish Charities Regulator, who should be taking note. Poor governance and management by the charity, I would think.

[SmashinGlass]

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Legally, it's not BDO's responsibility, it's down to the Directors. In practice, though, yes they should.

Admins won't ever submit an annual return as it is the directors' responsibility as you quite rightly say. In the even a CVA is agreed, it should be one of the first things the new incumbents do. However, we all know that ain't gonna happen either way.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Admins won't ever submit an annual return as it is the directors' responsibility as you quite rightly say. In the even a CVA is agreed, it should be one of the first things the new incumbents do. However, we all know that ain't gonna happen either way.

Even though that adds more expense to the company in the way of fines?

[Hank Schrader]

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Even though that adds more expense to the company in the way of fines?

I've yet to see fines dished out for late annual returns. Usually Companies House threaten to strike the company off a couple of times. If no response is received then eventually they proceed to the dissolution of the company whilst threatening the directors with court action.

I haven't dealt with annual returns for PLCs so perhaps that's different and fines are incurred?

[CropleyWasGod]

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I've yet to see fines dished out for late annual returns. Usually Companies House threaten to strike the company off a couple of times. If no response is received then eventually they proceed to the dissolution of the company whilst threatening the directors with court action.

I haven't dealt with annual returns for PLCs so perhaps that's different and fines are incurred?

You're right. It's late accounts I'm thinking about.

[Thecat23]

Whatever happens from here on in, Hearts have had their dirty washing hung out for all to view and its not pretty. Everyone has now seen exactly what a lying, cheating horrible club they actually are. So for me that will not be forgotten in a hurry.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Whatever happens from here on in, Hearts have had their dirty washing hung out for all to view and its not pretty. Everyone has now seen exactly what a lying, cheating horrible club they actually are. So for me that will not be forgotten in a hurry.

I'll never forget. Ever. And I'll remind them at every opportunity. For all their protestations, just remember they would be arguably worse if the shoe was on the other foot.

[Thecat23]

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I'll never forget. Ever. And I'll remind them at every opportunity. For all their protestations, just remember they would be arguably worse if the shoe was on the other foot.

Better believe they would be. They are the most deluded bunch of clowns i've ever came across.

[PatHead]

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There is the Office of the Scottish Charities Regulator, who should be taking note. Poor governance and management by the charity, I would think.

I emailed them and basically they don't think anything is amiss. Their reply; Thank you for your email of 31 July 2013. I can confirm that
following media reports regarding the relationship between Big Hearts Community Trust SC037311)and Heart of Midlothian plc we have recently concluded an inquiry into the charity. We did not identify any regulatory concerns during this inquiry. We note the amount due to Big Hearts Community Trust from Heart of Midlothian plc, but the existence of a debt due to a charity from a company in administration is not a regulatory matter. If you wish any further information on this you should contact the charity. I didn't bother contacting the charity.

[clerriehibs]

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Whatever happens from here on in, Hearts have had their dirty washing hung out for all to view and its not pretty. Everyone has now seen exactly what a lying, cheating horrible club they actually are. So for me that will not be forgotten in a hurry.

I think it's only us that are paying attention.

homfc seem to be the media's darlings now. Not one media outlet pays any attention to their lying, cheating, thieving ways.

[Craig_in_Prague]

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I think it's only us that are paying attention.

homfc seem to be the media's darlings now. Not one media outlet pays any attention to their lying, cheating, thieving ways.

Yup.
If you were not a reader of hibs.net, you wouldn't actually see much dirty on them at all !

my mums partner was over with her in the summer, he aint a big football fan but was brought up in Gorgie so obviously is a bit of a jambo. I tried to discuss the mess they are in... and his 1st response was "that's nonsense, there was an article in the scotsman this morning".... and really, the conversation ended quite quickly.

They are maybe in for a huge bang, when the carpet is pulled beneath them. (ironic I mentioned that, he is a carpet cleaner... anyways.... lol)

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Better believe they would be. They are the most deluded bunch of clowns i've ever came across.

So deluded they think that we are deluded.

They've almost become a parody of themselves.

[Aldo]

The scary thing is the majority if Yams I know don't think Mad Vlad has done anything wrong but you've got to remember 1-5 1902 blah blah blah.

I mentioned relegation and got told don't be daft why would the SPFL want the current 2nd biggest team in Scotland relegated.

I just laughed to be told we would be the next club to go under as we are living well about our means and losing nearly half a million a month.

I asked where that came from and he said a contact within the club and is defo ITK.

Deluded as ever and will always be in denial.

[Springbank]

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The scary thing is the majority if Yams I know don't think Mad Vlad has done anything wrong but you've got to remember 1-5 1902 blah blah blah.

I mentioned relegation and got told don't be daft why would the SPFL want the current 2nd biggest team in Scotland relegated.

I just laughed to be told we would be the next club to go under as we are living well about our means and losing nearly half a million a month.

I asked where that came from and he said a contact within the club and is defo ITK.

Deluded as ever and will always be in denial.

To be fair to the jambos I think the last time they posted anything meaningful through their accounts was pre-Mercer (perhaps 1979)

So the poor wee lambs wouldn't think to look at Hibernian FC's accounts for their information - financial info to a Yam can only come from one of three sources, Vlad, Southern or a nameless ITK

Wee insolvent cakebaking poppy-stealing lambs that they are