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  1. #23251
    This was posted on P & B earlier today

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    The last set of Audio Releases had the aim of promoting that the words and actions of those who benefited most from the administration process at RFC, needed to be challenged.

    Court cases are looming and it's important that the character of those who wish to pursue claims against others are closely scrutinised wherever possible, in order to avoid any possible conflict of interest.

    Duff and Phelps have emphatically denied, and on public record, that they were aware of the total sum advanced by Ticketus, and that they were the primary funders, until some point in August 2011.

    That position is still untenable and I've yet to see D&P withdraw their claims. Grier is documented as being aware in March 2011 and was in effect the Financial Director (by proxy) as soon as the takeover was complete.

    He participated in the takeover talks with the Independent Committee and offered comfort that the funds were available. Yet it is Duff and Phelps who are suing Collyer Bristow for the alleged deceitful transaction.

    D&P have lodged claims that RFC lost out on a valid investment opportunity led by Paul Murray and that RFC should recover this loss of investment.

    That's a very strange position to maintain as the basis of a valid claim. D&P were already aware that the banks and Sir David Murray had dismissed the Paul Murray proposals. As for the reasons to reject, I'm not aware at this time.

    Had David Grier disclosed the funding sources to the Independent Committee at any time, this deal could not have proceeded on the terms offered. The term 'duped' would not be available to use by anyone close to the deal either. Handy that.

    Their attempts to pass the buck and blame others as being solely responsible, i.e. Gary Withey, is a step too far in my opinion.

    So before any Drama Queens get further engrossed in the shock and horror of my 'Sun' type expose on Grier/Duff and Phelps, do consider the bigger picture.

    Thousands of investors, debenture holders and fans suffered real distress and loss when RFC went into administration and subsequent liquidation. Many businesses were also damaged. The impact was far reaching and had and would have had a direct hit on many families, including those who may also be subject to litigation.

    So please, spare me the moans and groans that my disclosures were a step too far.

    Instead, convert that 'shock' into genuine concerns for the wider communities who suffered more due to rogue actions.

    This wasn't an 'eye for an eye' type release. It was an intention to make it clear that those involved in the scandal are the ones who should bear responsibility for their actions.

    Here we have a team, commonly known as 'The Rolex Boys' during the MCR years, having their secrets spilled. Ones which seem to cover extra marital relationships, prostitutes, cars and foreign holidays masked as corporate away days.

    This team participated in probably the worst administration process known to many. Their actions are worthy of much closer inspection regardless of the general unease it might cause to a few.


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    Captain Fantastic

    I see it hasn't taken long for Zaliukis to slither along the M8 and start training with their big cousins Sevco.....

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    Bombscare centre-back hyped up beyond belief by a club with delusions of grandeur. Much like their fantastic youth team that have won hee haw for years.

    Brannimir Kostadinov where are you?

    Charity robbers.
    "Play for the name on the front of the jersey and the supporters will remember the name on the back"

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    I expect a goal rush next time we play the rangers.

    Hibs 7 - 0 The Rangers

    (Zaliukas OG 6,15,24,40,54,62,70)

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    Left by mutual consent!
    Did he play in the recent friendly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Did he play in the recent friendly?
    I really really hope he did :-) #RomanovsLoveChild

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    If he gets a contract, he could start putting something towards Saving Hearts in Trouble.
    Shocked he hasn't at least pulled a couple of pints at least whilst on expenses.

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    So after seven years in the 'reserves', a 31-year old finally gets promotion to the first-team - pretty much typical of the 'Dark-Side's levels these days.

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    Brannimir Kostadinov where are you?

    Charity robbers.
    Leave him alone, he worked wonders in my Accrington Stanley team on FM2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Did he play in the recent friendly?
    No he didn't.

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    I can't believe even Rangers would waste thousands a week on him They really have lost the plot, eh.

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    Surprised nobody has picked up on the Jim Spence story here....

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...ments.22092189

    He's been pulled up by the BBC for telling the truth - hunbelievable

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    I've complained to the BBC for apologising over a journalist who simply stated the facts

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    Phil Mac is adamant the BBC is going to back Spence over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe breezy View Post
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    Surprised nobody has picked up on the Jim Spence story here....

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...ments.22092189

    He's been pulled up by the BBC for telling the truth - hunbelievable
    You would have thought that the BBC would have learned its lesson about failing to get to the truth. Almost fifty years of denial over Jimmy Saville. I wonder how long the The Rangers will get?

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    Angela haggarty reckons that herald story references an apology to an email complainant earlier and that the bbc's atance has hardened since.
    There's an interesting guest post on paul mcconvilles blog about the tortured make up of sevco5088 and sevco scotland and thus the rangers. Would link but not so easy on my phone.
    Also spotted some news item about the police having to investigate themselves re leaks relating to media house - has come up in the charlottefakes investigation.

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    scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/mystery-directors-and-the-rangers-sevco-5088-switcheroo-by-ecojon/

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    scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/police-scotland-to-investigate-itself.html?m=1

    Ok, got them both. Sounds serious. Happy days :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuanH78 View Post
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    scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/mystery-directors-and-the-rangers-sevco-5088-switcheroo-by-ecojon/
    http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...roo-by-ecojon/

    Quote Originally Posted by EuanH78 View Post
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    scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/police-scotland-to-investigate-itself.html?m=1
    http://scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/20...tself.html?m=1

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    Thanks treadstone. Linking aint easy on phone

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    EGM at Ibrox is again looking likely, as they can't come to an agreement.

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    with all the stuff going on I keep thinking it's a good idea to remember things like this.....

    13/06/12 – DAILY RECORD
    “They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch.”
    - (Jim Traynor)

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    EGM at Ibrox is again looking likely, as they can't come to an agreement.
    That's nice but there's no such thing as EGMs any more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    That's nice but there's no such thing as EGMs any more!

    Que?


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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    Que?
    Wasn't aimed at you! They keep talking about EGMs. They are now just GMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alf R View Post
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    with all the stuff going on I keep thinking it's a good idea to remember things like this.....

    13/06/12 – DAILY RECORD
    “They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch.”
    - (Jim Traynor)
    But he said sorry after reviewing the evidence and deciding he was wrong. Absolutely nothing to do with the fact he was getting paid by them and had to do a right good bit of grovelling to placate the people....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Wasn't aimed at you! They keep talking about EGMs. They are now just GMs.

    I thought that had something to do with dodgy wheat.



    Have they been bought over by Monsanto?



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    My email address is banned from FollowFollow. Not sure why as I've never registered with them before.

    Some ******nugget with a predilection for Hunular activity has written a complaint to the BBC regarding Jim Spence. Fellow FollowFollow fudknockers have congratulated him for his letter.

    I simply sought to copy and paste quotes from Walter Smith, James Traynor, Richard Gough and Chuckles Green similarly saying what Jim Spence said.

    Why are the Huns not taking them to task for their comments?
    "Play for the name on the front of the jersey and the supporters will remember the name on the back"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee View Post
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    My email address is banned from FollowFollow. Not sure why as I've never registered with them before.

    Some ******nugget with a predilection for Hunular activity has written a complaint to the BBC regarding Jim Spence. Fellow FollowFollow fudknockers have congratulated him for his letter.

    I simply sought to copy and paste quotes from Walter Smith, James Traynor, Richard Gough and Chuckles Green similarly saying what Jim Spence said.

    Why are the Huns not taking them to task for their comments?
    Because they're thick gullible forelock tuggers who believe what they're told to believe by any voice which emanates from Ibroke.

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