Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

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The Advertising Standards Agency find that 'Rangers' are NOT the most successful club in Scotland.

'Rangers' accept it.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...erms=rangers#2

[Keith_M]

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The Advertising Standards Agency find that 'Rangers' are NOT the most successful club in Scotland.

'Rangers' accept it.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...erms=rangers#2

Quality man, quality!!

(try saying that in a nasally weegie Ned voice)

[Hibernia&Alba]

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The Advertising Standards Agency find that 'Rangers' are NOT the most successful club in Scotland.

'Rangers' accept it.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...erms=rangers#2

What's that all about then?

[BarneyK]

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The Advertising Standards Agency find that 'Rangers' are NOT the most successful club in Scotland.

'Rangers' accept it.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...erms=rangers#2

I can't see any details as to the nature of that complaint. What am I missing?

[Keith_M]

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What's that all about then?

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I can't see any details as to the nature of that complaint. What am I missing?

It's all part of the ongoing SameClub/NewClub battle. They use the term 'Scotland's most successful club' in their advertising, implying they were the same club, to which a complaint was made (RaSellik Fans). I think this was initially rejected but has since been overturned.

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I can't see any details as to the nature of that complaint. What am I missing?

There have been complaints concerning their legal right to brand themselves 'Scotland's most successful club' for advertising/merchandise purposes as they are considered to be a new club by many.

The ASA agree their claim is pish, and newco equals new club. The club have accepted it.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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It's all part of the ongoing SameClub/NewClub battle. They use the term 'Scotland's most successful club' in their advertising, implying they were the same club, to which a complaint was made (RaSellik Fans). I think this was initially rejected but has since been overturned.

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There have been complaints concerning their legal right to brand themselves 'Scotland's most successful club' for advertising/merchandise purposes as they are considered to be a new club by many.

The ASA agree their claim is pish, and newco equals new club. The club have accepted it.

I see, thanks for that. So does that mean Celtic are actually Scotland's most successful club? I hope they bring out a clothing range to that effect, sending the Rangers fans into meltdown . It's interesting Rangers haven't contested it.

[Keith_M]

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I see, thanks for that. So does that mean Celtic are actually Scotland's most successful club? I hope they bring out a clothing range to that effect, sending the Rangers fans into meltdown . It's interesting Rangers haven't contested it.

[BarneyK]

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I see, thanks for that. So does that mean Celtic are actually Scotland's most successful club? I hope they bring out a clothing range to that effect, sending the Rangers fans into meltdown . It's interesting Rangers haven't contested it.

Do they get to keep their "most financially ****ed" title, or are the yams usurping them to that one?

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The relevant extract:

Informally Resolved Cases (1)
After consideration by the ASA of complaints received, the following companies and organisations agreed to amend or withdraw advertising without the need for a formal investigation:

Advertiser Date
The Rangers Football Club Ltd

[stokesmessiah]

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I see, thanks for that. So does that mean Celtic are actually Scotland's most successful club? I hope they bring out a clothing range to that effect, sending the Rangers fans into meltdown . It's interesting Rangers haven't contested it.

My guess is a lawyer has probably told them that they dont have anything to contest.

[Onion]

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It's all part of the ongoing SameClub/NewClub battle. They use the term 'Scotland's most successful club' in their advertising, implying they were the same club, to which a complaint was made (RaSellik Fans). I think this was initially rejected but has since been overturned.

So if The Rangers are not, who is ? Maybe the ASA could confirm who and why .... now that would really piss them off

[Hibernia&Alba]

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My guess is a lawyer has probably told them that they dont have anything to contest.

Surely this means that Newco can't use the trophies won by Oldco in its list of honours and that the current Rangers must also accept that?

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This is also kicking about on Twitter. Might be nothing in it but it would be brilliant if its true.



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[Keith_M]

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This is also kicking about on Twitter. Might be nothing in it but it would be brilliant if its true.



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Bartin Main? No source, evidence or anything? On Twitter?


What do you mean there MIGHT not be anything in it? It's obviously utter b*ll*x.

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Bartin Main? No source, evidence or anything? On Twitter?

What do you mean there MIGHT not be anything in it? It's obviously utter b*ll*x.

@BartinMain: Make of this what you will but sounds interesting http://t.co/yT5G1QKsMJ

As he says make of it what you will. You're right it may well be nonsense. Maybe it isn't.

[Keith_M]

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@BartinMain: Make of this what you will but sounds interesting http://t.co/yT5G1QKsMJ

As he says make of it what you will. You're right it may well be nonsense. Maybe it isn't.

Sorry, that came over a bit harshly. I re-read my comment and it sounded like I was being a bit nasty to yir good self.

[lapsedhibee]

I think the ASA have goofed. The The Rangers have won a trophy every single year of their existence. What other club can match that achievement? What we'd give for that record of success!

[royalscot]

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The Advertising Standards Agency find that 'Rangers' are NOT the most successful club in Scotland.

'Rangers' accept it.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudi...erms=rangers#2

Only thing i could find near the date was this ????


http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/06/...g-be-scotlands

[Brando7]

Sevco in bother again :)

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/sport/fo...event-1.118172

[blindsummit]

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The relevant extract:

Informally Resolved Cases (1)
After consideration by the ASA of complaints received, the following companies and organisations agreed to amend or withdraw advertising without the need for a formal investigation:

Advertiser Date
The Rangers Football Club Ltd

There is some speculation on Twitter and elsewhere that this doesn't relate to the "world's most successful ethereal club" complaint, but another complaint relating to a marketing e-mail that Sevco sent out claiming that 48% of Scots supported them or somesuch nonsense.

Either way, it's nice to see someone actually holding them to account for once rather than bottling it.

[Caversham Green]

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So if The Rangers are not, who is ? Maybe the ASA could confirm who and why .... now that would really piss them off

Rangers are still Scotland's most successful club, but they closed down in 2012 and the club with no i will no doubt overtake them in due course.

[lapsedhibee]

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Sevco in bother again :)

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/sport/fo...event-1.118172

Gotta love the way that the the huns interpret every sort of reprimand or rebuke as a victory, on the apparent grounds that they didn't receive even worse punishment or criticism.

[degenerated]

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@BartinMain: Make of this what you will but sounds interesting http://t.co/yT5G1QKsMJ

As he says make of it what you will. You're right it may well be nonsense. Maybe it isn't.

No chance are the likes of cala interested in building there. It's a ***** hole.

[PatHead]

http://www.forfarathletic.co.uk/inde...orts&Itemid=35 Loved the Forfar report on their official website-" Plucky ‘Gers take Loons to Extra Time"

[Jack Hackett]

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Rangers were Scotland's most successful club, but they closed down in 2012 and the club with no i will no doubt overtake them in due course.

Fixed that for you (small error with the tense)

[Jack Hackett]

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There is some speculation on Twitter and elsewhere that this doesn't relate to the "world's most successful ethereal club" complaint, but another complaint relating to a marketing e-mail that Sevco sent out claiming that 48% of Scots supported them or somesuch nonsense.

Either way, it's nice to see someone actually holding them to account for once rather than bottling it.

Found this post on the Rangers Int Share Chat page of the LSE site concerning the reasons for the ASA ruling....

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"also for those with their heads in the sand this is interesting from the ASA

""A company (X) might have bought an existing or liquidated company (Y). It is likely that X wants to adopt Y’s brand heritage by continuing to advertise Y’s business name as a trading style and referring to Y’s trading history. That approach is likely to be acceptable provided the purchasing business (X) can demonstrate that it has assumed the liabilities of Y, by paying Y’s debts, :lol: for example, and honouring Y’s guarantees. In 2008, two complainants questioned the claim “10,000 satisfied customers can't be wrong” because they believed the company had been trading only for a year or so. The ASA adjudicated that, because it was unable to show it had taken on the debts and liabilities of the previous company, the advertiser was unfairly trading on the reputation and trading history of an earlier incarnation of the same company"

....The date mentioned (2008) is undoubtedly an error by the OP, as we all know that Rangers FC were a highly successful institution at that time

[CropleyWasGod]

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Found this post on the Rangers Int Share Chat page of the LSE site concerning the reasons for the ASA ruling....


....The date mentioned (2008) is undoubtedly an error by the OP, as we all know that Rangers FC were a highly successful institution at that time

The 2008 doesn't refer to Rangers, IMO. It is talking about the example the ASA use.

[Jack Hackett]

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The 2008 doesn't refer to Rangers, IMO. It is talking about the example the ASA use.

Suspected this after I'd posted CWG. Thanks for the confirmation though

[Keith_M]

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http://www.forfarathletic.co.uk/inde...orts&Itemid=35 Loved the Forfar report on their official website-" Plucky ‘Gers take Loons to Extra Time"

"Forfar Athletic have just knocked what was once one of the biggest clubs in Scotland out of the League Cup"