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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

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  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

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  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

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  • Don't care about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by YehButNoBut View Post
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    EEN trying to get the Yams on their side??

    Can't believe that gets more space than the chemical incident!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PapillonVert View Post
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    Looks like they are beginning to panic. FoH have been told their offer is nowhere near good enough and know they can't go any further (i.e. maxed out on the credit card) and so now have to bring pressure any which way on the other bidder to withdraw to leave them with a clear field.
    Happily, a clear field means liquidation

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    Desperate stuff from the EEN. I think the fact they're singing like canaries reveals they know the game is all but over. There might be some injury time yet; who knows - but I don't see this ending well from a Hearts point of view.

    Generally on KB, fans are acting like they've been held hostage by Romanov and were powerless. They handed the power to him and some of their most prominent backers - like Foulkes etc - were glad to accept Romanov where several clubs had seen through it and told him to bolt. They even had a wee song to sing in praise of their owner and were all too ready to accept the faxes from Kaunas, the bizarre diatribes on their website and looked gratefully on as HMFC enlisted players they couldn't actually afford. Evidence of this: the failure to pay tax as due, failure to pay players regularly and stiffing several clubs of money for the players they acquired. Personally, my favourite was the Euros/GBP confusion over the transfer of Beslija.

    Robinson's proposal was unpalatable at the time but it may conspire to show that in fact, they should have gone with it. The level of personal abuse he had to deal with during and since is extraordinary.

    Essentially, they've backed the wrong horse since then, been found out and now it looks like their race has been run. I do feel sorry for your average fan, like some people in my family who havent missed a home game in years and have supported the team for decades. Unfortunately, thats just too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneyK View Post
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    Happily, a clear field means liquidation
    And so Massone just comes back with his bid at that point. Same result, different route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steakbake View Post
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    Desperate stuff from the EEN. I think the fact they're singing like canaries reveals they know the game is all but over. There might be some injury time yet; who knows - but I don't see this ending well from a Hearts point of view.

    Generally on KB, fans are acting like they've been held hostage by Romanov and were powerless. They handed the power to him and some of their most prominent backers - like Foulkes etc - were glad to accept Romanov where several clubs had seen through it and told him to bolt. They even had a wee song to sing in praise of their owner and were all to ready to accept the faxes from Kaunas, the bizarre diatribes on their website and looked gratefully on as HMFC enlisted players they couldn't actually afford.

    Robinson's proposal was unpalatable at the time but it may conspire to show that in fact, they should have gone with it. The level of personal abuse he had to deal with during and since is extraordinary.

    Essentially, they've backed the wrong horse since then, been found out and now it looks like their race has been run. Too bad.
    Everything I was about to say, except in less words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overDrive View Post
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    Can't believe that gets more space than the chemical incident!
    I do not believe that the EEN or the Scotsman will be around much longer.

    Desperate times for the MSM.

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    Does the EN often sell advertising space on the front page?

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    So Massone looks like getting them. But what does he have planned for them? Thats the £100 question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderhall View Post
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    Does the EN often sell advertising space on the front page?
    And did they get the money up front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simkin911 View Post
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    Very little focus on doing what is best for the creditors. Or do they really not matter any more?
    They dont matter. They are just an obstacle to be removed so that Hearts can carry on saving the Western world.

    .....and if they had cared about them in the first place, they would have paid them.

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    You'd think someone might have proof read that article before it went to print. Who is it, 'we' or 'them'?

    Terrible article. Looks like something my manager would send me, a blatant copy and paste and a pathetic attempt to change a few words to make it look like he wrote it.

    Just when you thought that paper couldn't get any worse, they go and outdo themselves again.

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    Idea for Sidney

    While Mr Murray won't comment on the hearts shafted creditors (due to his involvement in the takeover) that would seem to me to open up considerable opportunities for his political rivals to speak up for the local people who will lose jobs over hearts inability or refusal to pay the council, university, nhs, police and charities.

    They are the real victims.

    Do you fancy penning one of your famous letters to kenny mcaskill to seek his views on the plight of the poor local victims whose jobs are now under greater threat due to income shortfalls?

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    If people dont think the News would do that for us if we were in the same situation they are dreaming. Delighted too as FOH are and always have been skint. Liquidation in 10 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by McS****y View Post
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    You'd think someone might have proof read that article before it went to print. Who is it, 'we' or 'them'?

    Terrible article. Looks like something my manager would send me, a blatant copy and paste and a pathetic attempt to change a few words to make it look like he wrote it.

    Just when you thought that paper couldn't get any worse, they go and outdo themselves again.
    Could end up being counter-productive as well. If Massone or his advisers read that, they could conclude that FoH itself realises that it is a busted flush and is now down to last-resort desperate measures. The article even begs Massone to team up with FoH, a huge backtrack on their previous position but just about the only thing that might keep them alive until "something turns up" (which it won't but, let's face it, politicians know how to keep hanging on even when it's clear the game is up). Truly desperate.

    All just pure conjecture, of course.

    BTW, anyone know if the meetings about "revised bids" are still going on?
    Last edited by PapillonVert; 02-08-2013 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosscarnie View Post
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    If people dont think the News would do that for us if we were in the same situation they are dreaming. Delighted too as FOH are and always have been skint. Liquidation in 10 days
    Quite what this will do for Hearts is a matter of debate.

    If this was poker, it's a 'tell' which shows one of the players in a head to head has by far the weaker hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosscarnie View Post
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    If people dont think the News would do that for us if we were in the same situation they are dreaming. Delighted too as FOH are and always have been skint. Liquidation in 10 days
    If that was us I am sure there would have been a lot more made out of who was on the creditors list. I am sure our equivalent of southern would be getting asked why he lied about the share issue and self sustaining etc. the media have given hearts an easy time, no difficult questions and is now portraying them as victims. Remorse is not a word in hearts vocabulary and the media are not even going to try and make them add it.

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    Question : Is anyone of a yam persuasion not aware of FoH ?

    Answer : No one else wants to pledge. Move along now. Liquidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosscarnie View Post
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    If people dont think the News would do that for us if we were in the same situation they are dreaming. Delighted too as FOH are and always have been skint. Liquidation in 10 days
    Sure I remember them giving 'balanced' coverage, ie no outrage, when the mercer (he's deid) show was in town.

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    An obvious attempt to interfere with the bidding process and engineer an outcome which would benefit Hearts to the detriment of their victims in Lithuanian. I hope the Liths are watching all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosscarnie View Post
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    If people dont think the News would do that for us if we were in the same situation they are dreaming. Delighted too as FOH are and always have been skint. Liquidation in 10 days
    I personally think the EEN would have highlighted all the charities cheated the nhs, police etc had it been Hibs.

    The heading would have been 'Italian Crook After Crooked Hibs'

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    Quote Originally Posted by steakbake View Post
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    Quite what this will do for Hearts is a matter of debate.

    If this was poker, it's a 'tell' which shows one of the players in a head to head has by far the weaker hand.
    That's exactly what this is. FoH are sitting with a really crappy hand and are hoping that that the other player throws in before they have to play it.

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    If people dont think the News would do that for us if we were in the same situation they are dreaming. Delighted too as FOH are and always have been skint. Liquidation in 10 days
    it's unlikely to happen that quickly.

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    An obvious attempt to interfere with the bidding process and engineer an outcome which would benefit Hearts to the detriment of their victims in Lithuanian. I hope the Liths are watching all this.
    The FoH doesn't benefit Hearts. It's the lowest offer, with the most debt and the daftest business plan. Even if the FoH plans go exactly the way they think they will (no Direct debit cancelations, loans repaid promptly, avoiding relegation) Hearts will still be a mediocre club at best.

    We all know that as soon as FoH get control there will be Direct Debit cancellations. I would be very surprised if there aren't people out there who have already done so. The longer this administration lasts the more apathy there will be from the casual supporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    That's exactly what this is. FoH are sitting with a really crappy hand and are hoping that that the other player throws in before they have to play it.
    lol how i'd love to see their hand. It would probably make the comedy stand at the festival

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    it's unlikely to happen that quickly.



    The FoH doesn't benefit Hearts. It's the lowest offer, with the most debt and the daftest business plan. Even if the FoH plans go exactly the way they think they will (no Direct debit cancelations, loans repaid promptly, avoiding relegation) Hearts will still be a mediocre club at best.

    We all know that as soon as FoH get control there will be Direct Debit cancellations. I would be very surprised if there aren't people out there who have already done so. The longer this administration lasts the more apathy there will be from the casual supporter.
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    The Evening News survives on local football news that isn't catered for by the Weedgie press. it's in their interests to back Hibs and Hearts stories from Hibs or Hearts point of view.

    They also backed the Hands off Hibs campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalkeith View Post
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    OMG that is absolutely toe curling.

    Manages to mention that the fan takeover of the club would be up there with their league and cup victories and their winning of the First World War.

    Also states that FoH don't have the money but are 'tantalisingly' close. (Massone is clearly tantalisingly closer)

    Breathtaking bias, agenda filled, blinkered propaganda with absolutely no humility towards the creditors, charities and tax payers stiffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe breezy View Post
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    The Evening News survives on local football news that isn't catered for by the Weedgie press. it's in their interests to back Hibs and Hearts stories from Hibs or Hearts point of view.

    They also backed the Hands off Hibs campaign
    They also gave mercer (he's deid) a platform.

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    OMG that is absolutely toe curling.

    Manages to mention that the fan takeover of the club would be up there with their league and cup victories and their winning of the First World War.

    Also states that FoH don't have the money but are 'tantalisingly' close. (Massone is clearly tantalisingly closer)

    Breathtaking bias, agenda filled, blinkered propaganda with absolutely no humility towards the creditors, charities and tax payers stiffed.

    Also manages to bemoan the previous management ... whilst listing the previous management's tainted cups amongst the achievements.
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    That's exactly what this is. FoH are sitting with a really crappy hand and are hoping that that the other player throws in before they have to play it.
    Just glad that he's not got leprosy.

    Sorry if this has been asked already, but is the general concensus that the Yam will still be in Admin come Feb or the like?

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    Desperate stuff from the EEN. I think the fact they're singing like canaries reveals they know the game is all but over. There might be some injury time yet; who knows - but I don't see this ending well from a Hearts point of view.

    Generally on KB, fans are acting like they've been held hostage by Romanov and were powerless. They handed the power to him and some of their most prominent backers - like Foulkes etc - were glad to accept Romanov where several clubs had seen through it and told him to bolt. They even had a wee song to sing in praise of their owner and were all too ready to accept the faxes from Kaunas, the bizarre diatribes on their website and looked gratefully on as HMFC enlisted players they couldn't actually afford. Evidence of this: the failure to pay tax as due, failure to pay players regularly and stiffing several clubs of money for the players they acquired. Personally, my favourite was the Euros/GBP confusion over the transfer of Beslija.

    Robinson's proposal was unpalatable at the time but it may conspire to show that in fact, they should have gone with it. The level of personal abuse he had to deal with during and since is extraordinary.

    Essentially, they've backed the wrong horse since then, been found out and now it looks like their race has been run. I do feel sorry for your average fan, like some people in my family who havent missed a home game in years and have supported the team for decades. Unfortunately, thats just too bad.
    Great post. I think to an extent the fans were powerless, but a lot of them were just greedy for the success it brought, hence willing to believe that it would all end just fine. I genuinely hope that if they are liquidated, and lose Tynie they can rebuild, but I'm afraid there's little sympathy for having to start again in the lower leagues.

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    I also think there is more to come with players that were payed in Lithuania but played for hearts. No source just a hunch I have

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    great post by 'the ball is round'
    The EEN comments section is hilarious. 'Wee Fordy' is clearly hurting big time.

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