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    You know, I have trouble remembering the Bad Old Days when the Close Season was spent discussing such mundane matters as who we'd lose before the Transfer Window was finished and how Petrie was such a tight Ars* by not allowing the manager to sign Messi or Ronaldo.

    Such innocent times, before the annual Administration/CVA/Liquidation era.


    I wonder whose turn it'll be next summer


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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    You know, I have trouble remembering the Bad Old Days when the Close Season was spent discussing such mundane matters as who we'd lose before the Transfer Window was finished and how Petrie was such a tight Ars* by not allowing the manager to sign Messi or Ronaldo.

    Such innocent times, before the annual Administration/CVA/Liquidation era.


    I wonder whose turn it'll be next summer
    Us. I read it on kickback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Us. I read it on kickback.




    You'll go blind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by inverurie exile View Post
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    whatever the membership i think its critical that the same rules are applied, and it is clear to everyone what the punishmnets are for administration and/or liquidation.
    It's not a 'punishment' , it's a 'consequence' of administration or liquidation ......

    Only sevco and potentially yamco fans think it was a punishment .....

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    Totally baffling...

    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3239826

    Commercial "Call to Arms" to Edinburgh business community

    16.07.2013

    Following the amazing response from Hearts fans to the administrators plea for a further 3000 season tickets to be purchased, Hearts are now sending out a similar message to the Edinburgh business community to snap up corporate hospitality tickets, sponsorship and advertising at Tynecastle for next season.


    David Southern, Hearts Managing Director said, "The response to the season ticket plea has been amazing and will help the club's cash flow over the next three or four months. However, we still need to generate revenue throughout the season to allow the club to prosper and a major factor in that is commercial revenue.

    "Our message to businesses across Scotland is 'Welcome to Hearts, we're open for business'. We have some prime advertising positions at Tynecastle which will provide exceptional local, national and global media exposure for businesses. And sponsors and corporate hospitality guests will be part of up to seventeen thousand people next season enjoying some of the best hospitality in the SPFL's most atmospheric stadium.


    "I believe we provide a service second to none and I have no doubt any business coming to the Tynecastle on a matchday will leave knowing they've had exceptional value for money."

    Scott Cockburn, Managing Director of Buckstone Roofing said, "We take in four or five games a season in the Gorgie suite normally and have always enjoyed the formal yet relaxed atmosphere it provides. We regularly take clients along and whether a Hearts or visiting fan, they come away feeling like they've been well looked after.

    "I've been to hospitality suites across the country and can honestly say that for atmosphere and quality of food, the Gorgie Suite is at the top of the tree. We also do a substantial amount of advertising which helps us promote Buckstone Roofing to a wide audience and we get a very good response to this. The coverage of Scottish Football in the local press is excellent and we regularly see our boards via various media outlets.


    "The relationship we have with Hearts is excellent and we've had no hesitation in renewing our package for next year already. "


    Why would any vaguely credible company want to be associated with that lot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTortolanoFanClub View Post
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    Totally baffling...

    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3239826

    Commercial "Call to Arms" to Edinburgh business community

    16.07.2013

    Following the amazing response from Hearts fans to the administrators plea for a further 3000 season tickets to be purchased, Hearts are now sending out a similar message to the Edinburgh business community to snap up corporate hospitality tickets, sponsorship and advertising at Tynecastle for next season.


    David Southern, Hearts Managing Director said, "The response to the season ticket plea has been amazing and will help the club's cash flow over the next three or four months. However, we still need to generate revenue throughout the season to allow the club to prosper and a major factor in that is commercial revenue.

    "Our message to businesses across Scotland is 'Welcome to Hearts, we're open for business'. We have some prime advertising positions at Tynecastle which will provide exceptional local, national and global media exposure for businesses. And sponsors and corporate hospitality guests will be part of up to seventeen thousand people next season enjoying some of the best hospitality in the SPFL's most atmospheric stadium.


    "I believe we provide a service second to none and I have no doubt any business coming to the Tynecastle on a matchday will leave knowing they've had exceptional value for money."

    Scott Cockburn, Managing Director of Buckstone Roofing said, "We take in four or five games a season in the Gorgie suite normally and have always enjoyed the formal yet relaxed atmosphere it provides. We regularly take clients along and whether a Hearts or visiting fan, they come away feeling like they've been well looked after.

    "I've been to hospitality suites across the country and can honestly say that for atmosphere and quality of food, the Gorgie Suite is at the top of the tree. We also do a substantial amount of advertising which helps us promote Buckstone Roofing to a wide audience and we get a very good response to this. The coverage of Scottish Football in the local press is excellent and we regularly see our boards via various media outlets.


    "The relationship we have with Hearts is excellent and we've had no hesitation in renewing our package for next year already. "


    Why would any vaguely credible company want to be associated with that lot ?
    Because they're an institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTortolanoFanClub View Post
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    Totally baffling...

    Why would any vaguely credible company want to be associated with that lot ?
    Buckstone roofing.........

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    "Welcome to Hearts."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedway View Post
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    Because they're an institution.
    Aye, and so is HMP Saughton !

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    There is a fair chance their commercial income has totally dried up as no company can justify paying in advance for a service to a company in admin.

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    Nice to hear from David Southern. Has he spent the last month writing that?

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    Could we no sponsor them likesy

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    You're missing the fact that the authorities in England aren't that bothered whether a club has to form a new company. What he means by "close to being liquidated" in that quote is that Portsmouth FC would have ceased to exist completely and that there would have been no new company.

    http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/new...-portsmouth-fc
    Correct. In a rare moment of sense last summer Neil Doncaster alluded to that. It was not something that was either unknown or uncommon in England and the examples of Middlesbrough, Leeds, Plymouth, Rotherham and I think Crystal Palace (i may be wrong on that one) amongst others were all thrown up as examples.
    Neither the authorities nor most of the clubs really give a toss about it beyond fixtures being fulfilled.

    Indeed English friends of mine were somewhat taken aback by the reaction of the Scottish clubs to the Rangers fiasco describing Rangers as a feeding frenzy, nothing more than a chance to put the boot in to the fallen school bully. Having deliberately distanced myself from as much Rangers chat as possible and avoiding anything that smells of self righteous hysterical Sellik blogger i can see that point of view.

    However for our pink chums Rangers is the precedent. Division3 awaits.

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    Maybe more clear cut with a new Hearts if they were no longer at Tynecastle or were to have a season out because of time constraints setting up the newco.
    The big fear is that they start the season and go pop before it ends. Will Neil Doncaster have a plan in place to deal with such a scenario? Will he pre-empt it by sticking Hearts in Division 1 and promoting Morton? That would require the foresight & vision to protect the showpiece league in Scotland.

    I fear another fiasco awaits and Mr Doncaster will simply put his pants on his head, stick 2 pencils up his nose and say "Wibble!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM_1875 View Post
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    However for our pink chums however Rangers is the precedent. Division3 awaits.
    But with a decent deal for the main stand repairs from Buckstone Roofing.
    Cash only.

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    Surprised they didn't mention the best young players in Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTortolanoFanClub View Post
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    They must be sending that out as emails as the company I work for got one begging us to buy tickets.

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    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/r...-maiden-stakes

    Was initially amused at their "Rudi five one" horse, namely as it's named after a player who ****ed off as soon as the money dried up but might stick a sneaky twenty quid on "Tax Enough", would be good to see another Jambo ****ed over by Hector's horse

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    global media exposure

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    "Global media exposure" was the bit that leapt out at me too. And I laughed like you did. Once a big club, always a big club I suppose. Complete trumpets the lot of them.

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    Totally baffling...

    http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3239826

    Commercial "Call to Arms" to Edinburgh business community

    16.07.2013

    Following the amazing response from Hearts fans to the administrators plea for a further 3000 season tickets to be purchased, Hearts are now sending out a similar message to the Edinburgh business community to snap up corporate hospitality tickets, sponsorship and advertising at Tynecastle for next season.


    David Southern, Hearts Managing Director said, "The response to the season ticket plea has been amazing and will help the club's cash flow over the next three or four months. However, we still need to generate revenue throughout the season to allow the club to prosper and a major factor in that is commercial revenue.

    "Our message to businesses across Scotland is 'Welcome to Hearts, we're open for business'. We have some prime advertising positions at Tynecastle which will provide exceptional local, national and global media exposure for businesses. And sponsors and corporate hospitality guests will be part of up to seventeen thousand people next season enjoying some of the best hospitality in the SPFL's most atmospheric stadium.


    "I believe we provide a service second to none and I have no doubt any business coming to the Tynecastle on a matchday will leave knowing they've had exceptional value for money."

    Scott Cockburn, Managing Director of Buckstone Roofing said, "We take in four or five games a season in the Gorgie suite normally and have always enjoyed the formal yet relaxed atmosphere it provides. We regularly take clients along and whether a Hearts or visiting fan, they come away feeling like they've been well looked after.

    "I've been to hospitality suites across the country and can honestly say that for atmosphere and quality of food, the Gorgie Suite is at the top of the tree. We also do a substantial amount of advertising which helps us promote Buckstone Roofing to a wide audience and we get a very good response to this. The coverage of Scottish Football in the local press is excellent and we regularly see our boards via various media outlets.


    "The relationship we have with Hearts is excellent and we've had no hesitation in renewing our package for next year already. "


    Why would any vaguely credible company want to be associated with that lot ?
    This would be the same David Southern who only a few weeks ago lied in his teeth when saying Yams were self-sustainable. The same David Southern, who to my knowledge has never commented or apologised for being part of a regime who perpetrated a cynical £1mm share fraud on the amazing Hearts fans!! Southern makes Chemical Ali look like the Dalai Lama & his utterances should only be taken seriously to the extent they may form evidence against him when this wholly corrupt facade finally crumbles.

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    i seriously cannot think of another football club anywhere on planet earth that bum themselves up so much...honestly

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM_1875 View Post
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    I fear another fiasco awaits and Mr Doncaster will simply put his pants on his head, stick 2 pencils up his nose and say "Wibble!"
    Hahahaha brilliant

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    This would be the same David Southern who only a few weeks ago lied in his teeth when saying Yams were self-sustainable. The same David Southern, who to my knowledge has never commented or apologised for being part of a regime who perpetrated a cynical £1mm share fraud on the amazing Hearts fans!! Southern makes Chemical Ali look like the Dalai Lama & his utterances should only be taken seriously to the extent they may form evidence against him when this wholly corrupt facade finally crumbles.
    The Fraud and Corruption of the yam suckers is beyond any sane persons mind, their party is over and the cold turkey of Liquidation will soon come to pass, but they have the answer which is bake cakes burry head in sand and cross fingers and all will be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTortolanoFanClub View Post
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    Why would any vaguely credible company want to be associated with that lot ?
    Surely businesses without emotional attachment to yamco (I.e. the vaguely credible ones) will realise that they'd need to look at investing in Hibs also, otherwise could alienate Hibs fans from their business. Therefore, would they look at paying for advertising/do corporate hospitality across both teams?? I would think not.

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    Sorry your post doesn't count.... End of wasn't in capital letters.......
    We should all be aware, by now I would have hoped, that all truisms are not just postfixed with 'end of' - or 'END OF' as gavmac has correctly pointed out; but we must also observe the more modern, correct term, that all 100% factual statements must have suffixed: 'Hibs.net fact. End of'.

    I happened across this relatively recent phenomena when researching the humble metre and came upon this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre

    2002 – The International Committee for Weights and Measures (CIPM) considers the metre to be a unit of proper length and thus recommends this definition be restricted to "lengths ℓ which are sufficiently short for the effects predicted by general relativity to be negligible with respect to the uncertainties of realisation". Hibs.net fact. End of. [27]
    From there I looked up the current thinking on Einstein's theories, and there too I found some absolute truths:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...Current_status

    General relativity has emerged as a highly successful model of gravitation and cosmology, which has so far passed many unambiguous observational and experimental tests. However, there are strong indications the theory is incomplete. Hibs.net fact. End of. [186]
    Like all good hypotheses, there must be an opposite to these supreme statements of fact, if only to satisfy the venerable academic community; searching various 'papers' I came across this that I hope illustrates my thoughts concisely:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-set-soar.html

    This new main stand would house 10,000 fans - replacing the current stand which cost £12,000 when it was built in 1914 - and would ensure Tynecastle, with 23,000 seats, has the fourth-largest football stadium capacity in Scotland. It was also confirmed that the Tynecastle pitch will be compliant with UEFA regulations for European competition. YAM LIE. UNTRUTH.

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    There is a fair chance their commercial income has totally dried up as no company can justify paying in advance for a service to a company in admin.
    or associated with a company who might ultimately be at the heart of illegal activities such as money laundering and fraud (allegedly).

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    Dear mr Southern

    I'm a businessman and I'm itching to take a hospitality package from hearts in February 2014. Three quick questions:

    Can you guarantee the game will actually take place?

    Should I address my check to BDO, HMFC ltd, FoH or the Cosa Nostra?

    Or are you being premature here?

    Yours etc etc

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    Nice to hear from David Southern. Has he spent the last month writing that?
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    Dear mr Southern

    I'm a businessman and I'm itching to take a hospitality package from hearts in February 2014. Three quick questions:

    Can you guarantee the game will actually take place?

    Should I address my check to BDO, HMFC ltd, FoH or the Cosa Nostra?

    Or are you being premature here?

    Yours etc etc
    Beeb Radio reporting this morning that the Yankee/Peebles shoe salesman bid is falling apart at the soles, with the Yanks now apparently holding back £5 million of what had been 'offered'!

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    Beeb Radio reporting this morning that the Yankee/Peebles shoe salesman bid is falling apart at the soles, with the Yanks now apparently holding back £5 million of what had been 'offered'!


    I just heard that.

    Oh dear what a terrible start of the day for me.


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