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***Danderhall Hibs*** · 20-05-2013 02:42 PM

Can I be the first to say (and not mean it) that I'll not be back.

**MyJo** · 20-05-2013 02:42 PM

Relegation this season would probably have been a good thing for them as well. As it stands they are facing playing the 13/14 season with a threadbare team and ongoing cash flow problems plus a 15 point penalty when the insolvency of UBIG is confirmed and the very real possibility of losing thier stadium when ukios administrators come calling. If they manage to survive all of that then relegation next season means they are coming up against rangers the year after so no guarantee of going straight back up. It's going to be fun to watch

**Hank Schrader** · 20-05-2013 02:43 PM

For the bed wetters who want this thread closed down today's decision means hee haw. Bottom line is they are still rooked and staring into the abyss. The big pain is coming and I will laugh my genitals off when it happens.

**Treadstone** · 20-05-2013 02:43 PM

Some of the posts about closing the thread. Deary me. Did I miss the SPL ratifying a £25m cash injection for the yams ? Admin and oblivion are coming ! Its just been postponed. It'll be a farewell tour next season and one that may get called off halfway through due to poor ticket sales.

**VickMackie** · 20-05-2013 02:47 PM

I'm guessing someone can make an offer for the stadium and small amount on the debt. If accepted I assume that they could start next season with a clean slate and on zero points.

Can the Admins and soon to be ubig accept a tiny offer for the debt to save the hassle of putting hearts in admin, and then go through months of legal proceedings?

**zosohibee** · 20-05-2013 02:47 PM

No points deduction, but it never would have made news if they werent such a shoddily run little club. With their crumbling stadium, unpaid players and shady Russian sugardaddy they are absolutely not going to get any stronger. I'm almost certain there will be sad, fat, ugly jambos on kickback saying how the club is destined to come through this and re-establish themselves on the top of the footballing Olympus where they belong. TBH what would you say if this was happening at Hibs? Them not going down does mean there will be some games next season to look forward too, i have no passionate hate for Celtic (until next sunday) so i'm glad we'll have derbies to attend. Given the manner in which we absolutely pumped them on their own patch the other week i'd say derbies are going to be a lot more entertaining too. Hearts in the first division would have been hilarious don't get me wrong, but Hearts treading water in the SPL and getting roundly shafted by Hibs on a regular basis... thats just dandy

**Part/Time Supporter** · 20-05-2013 02:47 PM

Random point:

If Hearts had finished 18+ points ahead of Dundee, everyone here would be delighted with this ruling.

**Beefster** · 20-05-2013 02:48 PM

Boyd and Goodwillie back on then.

**Gatecrasher** · 20-05-2013 02:48 PM

Aw well just need to wait a little longer until they dot the I's and cross the T's

**JeMeSouviens** · 20-05-2013 02:51 PM

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Jamie Borthwick has his eye on the ball

Jamie Borthwick @jamiekborthwick
Interesting bit of precedence from Feb last year. SPL confirmed no 'sporting sanctions' until court appointed administrators to Rangers.

Jamie Borthwick @jamiekborthwick
"A notice of the intention to appoint administrators alone does not trigger the sporting sanctions..."

Jamie Borthwick @jamiekborthwick
"...it is the actual appointment of administrators which does."

This is not over and anyone who thinks it is, is kidding themselves. Once something actually happens at UBIG the SPL will be right back on this

He's actually not got his eye on the ball.

The SPL rules as per December 2011 are as he says. The line about "notice of intention to appoint" was added to the rules as per July 2012. So he's out of date.

I'm presuming the fact the intention was lodged with a govt dept rather than a court is what's got them off.

As you say, just a stay of excution.

**EdinMike** · 20-05-2013 02:51 PM

This story is faaaaar from over people.

We've waited all these years to get to this stage, just a few more weeks or months and Karma will work it's magic... And anyway we can now turn our attention to Sunday !

***matty_f*** · 20-05-2013 02:51 PM

Can anyone say they are really surprised at this? Said it last week that nothing would happen.

The pain is in the post for them, though. This just prolongs it.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 20-05-2013 02:51 PM

Todays decision is only delaying the end. Also the SPL have now given themselves another summer of misery, because when the courts in Lith land do accept they are insolvent, they will then have a team in THEIR top division relegated before the season starts. They couldn't run a raffle with only 2 tickets to sell.

***Stevie Reid*** · 20-05-2013 02:51 PM

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Random point:

If Hearts had finished 18+ points ahead of Dundee, everyone here would be delighted with this ruling.

A very good point.

**~~Hibercelona~~** · 20-05-2013 02:52 PM

Are they certain to even get a points deduction next season?

Or will that be another decision "bottled"?

***Stevie Reid*** · 20-05-2013 02:53 PM

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Can anyone say they are really surprised at this? Said it last week that nothing would happen.

The pain is in the post for them, though. This just prolongs it.

It would have been nice, but wasn't expecting anything today. Some of the reactions have been ridiculous.

**JeMeSouviens** · 20-05-2013 02:53 PM

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Random point:

If Hearts had finished 18+ points ahead of Dundee, everyone here would be delighted with this ruling.

Random point #2:

All hail Stewart Gilmour: an 8-8-8 with points for the middle 8 wiped would've come in most handy for a team of diddies starting on -15.

**~~Hibernia Na Eir~~** · 20-05-2013 02:54 PM

they will now surely be favourites for relegation next season.

**MrHibs1982** · 20-05-2013 02:54 PM

I would've loved hearts to go down this season as with all the losing stadium, players chat etc, wouldn't it have been good for them to be relegated 2 years in a row and bypass playing the huns in div 1 in 2 seasons time and instead be in Div 2 by then?!

**~~Skanko79~~** · 20-05-2013 02:54 PM

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Well don't read it then.

i tried to read it one day, got about 14 posts in on the first page and was bored to tears. if i had the time which i dont i could trawl through the entire thing and come up with a few belting quotes from folks that claim to be in the "know"

being honest its one of the biggest weeks in our clubs history and all folk are banging on about is hearts. give it up and get behind your own team.

i couldnt give a toss what happens to them.

**kdhibees1** · 20-05-2013 02:56 PM

Relegation for the flumps next season only to be met by Newco Huns. Now that would be worth waiting for.

**~~Saorsa~~** · 20-05-2013 02:57 PM

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Are they certain to even get a points deduction next season?

Or will that be another decision "bottled"?

Maybe they're hoping the people in Lithuania will send the yams tae the wall first tae save them from having tae make a decision. ****in' mealymouthed bawbags

***CropleyWasGod*** · 20-05-2013 02:57 PM

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He's actually not got his eye on the ball.

The SPL rules as per December 2011 are as he says. The line about "notice of intention to appoint" was added to the rules as per July 2012. So he's out of date.

I'm presuming the fact the intention was lodged with a govt dept rather than a court is what's got them off.

As you say, just a stay of excution.

My take on it, too. That is probably the legal advice that they have been given.

**edinburghhibee** · 20-05-2013 02:59 PM

Well I've just walked past slim castle and there are folk blasting their car horns in delight at this... Jokers I think they now believe that's it all is Rosie again.

**Gus Fring** · 20-05-2013 02:59 PM

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i tried to read it one day, got about 14 posts in on the first page and was bored to tears. if i had the time which i dont i could trawl through the entire thing and come up with a few belting quotes from folks that claim to be in the "know"

being honest its one of the biggest weeks in our clubs history and all folk are banging on about is hearts. give it up and get behind your own team.

i couldnt give a toss what happens to them.

There's plenty of other threads you can read, you've chosen to not read this one but are complaining about it's content.

Hearts didn't single handedly defeat the Nazi's for people like you to make decisions about what we do and don't talk about.

***lapsedhibee*** · 20-05-2013 03:02 PM

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Random point:

If Hearts had finished 18+ points ahead of Dundee, everyone here would be delighted with this ruling.

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A very good point.

But if Hearts had finished 18+ points ahead of Dundee, the ruling might well have been different.

**rcarter1** · 20-05-2013 03:02 PM

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Relegation for the flumps next season only to be met by Newco Huns. Now that would be worth waiting for.

Indeed. we cant control what is going to happen, but that could actually be a barrel of laughs. Its like Alien vs Predator in reverse - whoever loses - We Win.

Now how about that Cup then?

**green glory** · 20-05-2013 03:02 PM

For those seething with outrage that they apparently haven't been punished, please arm yourself with the facts before bursting any more blood vessels.

Until a court appoints an administrator. The parent company UBIG are not as yet in administration.

Administration and likely liquidation WILL follow soon, it's now just a formality.

The liquidators will want something for the 79% of Hearts shares owned by UBIG.

Also the stadium is in serious danger, not to mention the tens of millions in debt owed to UBIG which the liquidators are hardly going to walk away from.

Today alters nothing. They're ****ed.

**Thecat23** · 20-05-2013 03:04 PM

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Well I've just walked past slim castle and there are folk blasting their car horns in delight at this... Jokers I think they now believe that's it all is Rosie again.

No wonder, I'd be doing the same, knowing how everyone was saying they were down but as usual they scrape by. One good thing though. The team they will have won't be great so we should be able to beat them more often.