Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[PatHead]

Can any of you guys on twitter not get in touch with Jim Spence who is covering Hearts game today and ask him to ask about both players and staff wages? Sure he would ask if he thinks he has a scoop that could help save a Dundee club

[Mikey]

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Nothing official yet but Mikey say's they haven't and to be honest, I believe him more than Hearts anyway

The best info I have is that the players have been told to say nothing so you can draw your own conclusions from that.

It's a shame Andy Driver isn't still with them. We would have known that morning if they hadn't.

[Treadstone]

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Oh how the mighty have fallen, Have a butchers at these three stories.

If you cant be bothered reading the full articles I have quoted my favourite bits.

23rd Oct 2005.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...earts-job.html



14th July 2006

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-Cup-pair.html



20th Aug 2007

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/6954606.stm



You honestly couldn't make it up. GGTTH

I have posted this before but Ewan Murray usually wins the top prize for nonsense.

Ewan Murray trying to put a Yams edge on Fergies retirement wrote this. Final paragraph.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...agerial-legend


And yet, during the 1990 World Cup, the then-Hearts chairman Wallace Mercer believed he could close a deal to bring Ferguson back with a package that included shares in the club and the dual title of manager and director of football. After careful consideration, Ferguson declined Mercer's offer as he believed he could make a success of things in Manchester. How prescient that sentiment turned out to be.


Funny Fergie never mentioned it in his book. 1990 was a busy year for 'Whalearse' and Fergie had just won the FA cup. Wrote this piece as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...atch.hibernian


Sir Bobby Robson remains a leading contender...Foulkes also denied reports that another former England manager, Kevin Keegan, was in the frame.

Claudio Ranieri, the former Chelsea manager, is out of the running after failing to impress Romanov during an interview on Thursday...

Ossie Ardiles and the former Holland assistant manager Wim van Hanegem have made contact with Hearts, but will only be seriously considered if moves to bring in Robson or another similarly high-profile candidate, such as Ottmar Hitzfeld, fall through.

[Benny Brazil]

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My take:

1. If you refer to Mercer as 'Wallace' on here you are gagging to be labelled a Yam. In that context, LTYF.

2. Doesn't matter at all what we wish for as an outcome, what will be will be anyway.

3. It's all good. There is no bad outcome for us. They can either die leaving us as the sole Edinburgh club with the potential over the years to grow our revenue, fan base and success or they can limp on as a zombie parody of a football club probably without a stadium and certainly on the equivalent of life support for the best part of a decade - maybe longer.

4. Every outcome involves the direct and harsh confrontation of smug, deluded, arrogant, complacent establishment types and their moronic followers with brutal reality. Walter Mitty hits brick wall at 100mph with no seatbelt. The squealing and pain is going to be long, slow and unbearable for them.

5. The Yams have earned this and I mean really earned it. In the best tradition of 'I was only following orders' and 'none of us knew what was going on' they willingly and complicitly turned their eyes and minds away from the truth about the financial doping and hollowing out of their club that was taking place. They have betrayed not only their club in their spineless willingness to indulge a madman's hubristic folly, they have also destroyed a long standing and once proud Edinburgh institution. For years now it has been evident that the arrogance and divisive unpleasantness coming from the Yams has emanated from the top and permeated the whole institution from top to toe. A fish stinks from its head as they say and Romanov has certainly done that. All the way back to the early 'Docksider' references this was an enterprise built upon spin, dodgy accounting and splitting the city where previously there had been healthy and friendly rivalry.

It has been noticeable that the more the club, it's office holders and owner and the vast majority of it's deluded followers have indulged in their fantasist dreams - manifesting in vile behaviour and provoking almost all other senior Scottish clubs - the more some elements have attempted to self-medicate their pain with increasingly contrived initiatives. From 'we won the war' through to cake bakes for survival their behaviour has become increasingly fantastical and detached from reality. The air armada of flying chickens now coming home to roost were nurtured, reared and fully grown by no one other than the Yams themselves.

6. I feel sorry for the likes of my uncle who would not recognise the club he spent his life supporting. He would struggle to understand how an Edinburgh rooted club managed to allow itself to get to such a self deluded stage that it believed it was ok to rack up unsustainable debts, have the arrogance to believe that those debts should be inflated further rather than managed and reduced and willingly snuggle itself into the arms of a snake oil salesman who self evidently made his money - if it was ever his money at all - in the chaotically criminal post-communist fall of Eastern Europe and who had previously been turned down by other Scots sufficiently grounded to realise that if the offer seemed too good to be true then it probably was too good to be true.

7. What's my preferred outcome? Hibernian supremacy in Edinburgh, annual European adventures, annual cup wins and a massive growth in the Hibernian supporting family for decades to come.

8. And Hearts? Really, who cares? Which is where this all started because it is the fact that no-one particularly cares abut them that really drives them into a frenzy. Outside of them, no-one cares if they go bust, disappear, limp on, become Cowdenbeath's biggest rivals or decline to a social club somewhere in West Edinburgh. The most damning thing you Yams reading this face? In the end, you just don't matter very much.

ODS - Take a bow - that for me sums up everything about this situation perfectly.

[clerriehibs]

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To be fair Hibs.net only represents a small percentage of Hibs fans so it can't be claimed that the majority of us want them gone either.

It's more evidential than the other side of the coin, though. So, I'm happy that most Hibs fans want them deid.

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Ossie Ardiles and the former Holland assistant manager Wim van Hanegem have made contact with Hearts, but will only be seriously considered if moves to bring in Robson or another similarly high-profile candidate, such as Ottmar Hitzfeld, fall through.

was this when they ended up with Rix?!?

[macca70]

With Berra being released, there are Jambo's that genuinely think they should bring him back!!

Good to see they are taking this cost cutting seriously. What part of 'Living out with your means' do they not understand!! Nice to see they are taking this cost cutting seriously.

This attitude is the exact reason why I will have no sympathy when they go kapoot.

[poolman]

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Oh how the mighty have fallen, Have a butchers at these three stories.

If you cant be bothered reading the full articles I have quoted my favourite bits.

23rd Oct 2005.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...earts-job.html



14th July 2006

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-Cup-pair.html



20th Aug 2007

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/6954606.stm



You honestly couldn't make it up. GGTTH

“Our goal has to be champions of Europe. I want us to be at the stage where to do anything else, to come back without the trophy, would be shameful. I think we’re looking at three years.”
— Vladimir Romanov, October 15, 2005



“I think that the club will no longer be in debt at end of the year and a budget of £10m will be made available. Buying players will be the decision of the head coach and Anatoly Byshovets [the then director of football]. They will look after the team, my only input will be to ensure that their transfer activity is within the club’s budget.”
— Vladimir Romanov outlines his strategy for Hearts in an interview with Russian newspaper Izvestia, October 3, 2004



“I’ll put all my efforts into keeping the stadium and build an even better venue to meet the requirements of today and tomorrow — better than anything in Glasgow,” — Vladimir Romanov, November 30, 2004

[Treadstone]

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was this when they ended up with Rix?!?

Tweeted Murray and asked who got the job. He pulled out some bull about going in a different direction. I said "What about Duffy ?" "Oh aye" he replied "forgot about him".

Embarrassing articles.

[Gus Fring]

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The girls in the ticket office haven't been paid last month or this month. Friend works there and she's not a happy lady that's for sure. Not sure if the players have been paid though?

There was a thread over on Brokeback about this, one of them said he'd been told the same and was trying to find out if it meant anything but he was hounded for being a "hobo" even though he gave the name of the person who told him it.

Reading his post again it was actually pretty accurate, they don't like the truth over there it seems as he's now banned.

It's near the start of this thread http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....d/page__st__50

Post #79 onwards if you're interested.

[Kojock]

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“Our goal has to be champions of Europe. I want us to be at the stage where to do anything else, to come back without the trophy, would be shameful. I think we’re looking at three years.”
— Vladimir Romanov, October 15, 2005



“I think that the club will no longer be in debt at end of the year and a budget of £10m will be made available. Buying players will be the decision of the head coach and Anatoly Byshovets [the then director of football]. They will look after the team, my only input will be to ensure that their transfer activity is within the club’s budget.”
— Vladimir Romanov outlines his strategy for Hearts in an interview with Russian newspaper Izvestia, October 3, 2004



“I’ll put all my efforts into keeping the stadium and build an even better venue to meet the requirements of today and tomorrow — better than anything in Glasgow,” — Vladimir Romanov, November 30, 2004

And the plums fell for it hook, line and sinker.

[greengnome]

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was this when they ended up with Rix?!?

It seems they are still setting their sites as high as ever on Brokeback... GGTTH :fenlon GIRFUY..


with play offs looking likely for next season we would have two bites of the cherry; I quite fancy a double of Sir Paul Hartley and Gary Locke both managing to get teams up

[Mon1875]

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My take:

1. If you refer to Mercer as 'Wallace' on here you are gagging to be labelled a Yam. In that context, LTYF.

2. Doesn't matter at all what we wish for as an outcome, what will be will be anyway.

3. It's all good. There is no bad outcome for us. They can either die leaving us as the sole Edinburgh club with the potential over the years to grow our revenue, fan base and success or they can limp on as a zombie parody of a football club probably without a stadium and certainly on the equivalent of life support for the best part of a decade - maybe longer.

4. Every outcome involves the direct and harsh confrontation of smug, deluded, arrogant, complacent establishment types and their moronic followers with brutal reality. Walter Mitty hits brick wall at 100mph with no seatbelt. The squealing and pain is going to be long, slow and unbearable for them.

5. The Yams have earned this and I mean really earned it. In the best tradition of 'I was only following orders' and 'none of us knew what was going on' they willingly and complicitly turned their eyes and minds away from the truth about the financial doping and hollowing out of their club that was taking place. They have betrayed not only their club in their spineless willingness to indulge a madman's hubristic folly, they have also destroyed a long standing and once proud Edinburgh institution. For years now it has been evident that the arrogance and divisive unpleasantness coming from the Yams has emanated from the top and permeated the whole institution from top to toe. A fish stinks from its head as they say and Romanov has certainly done that. All the way back to the early 'Docksider' references this was an enterprise built upon spin, dodgy accounting and splitting the city where previously there had been healthy and friendly rivalry.

It has been noticeable that the more the club, it's office holders and owner and the vast majority of it's deluded followers have indulged in their fantasist dreams - manifesting in vile behaviour and provoking almost all other senior Scottish clubs - the more some elements have attempted to self-medicate their pain with increasingly contrived initiatives. From 'we won the war' through to cake bakes for survival their behaviour has become increasingly fantastical and detached from reality. The air armada of flying chickens now coming home to roost were nurtured, reared and fully grown by no one other than the Yams themselves.

6. I feel sorry for the likes of my uncle who would not recognise the club he spent his life supporting. He would struggle to understand how an Edinburgh rooted club managed to allow itself to get to such a self deluded stage that it believed it was ok to rack up unsustainable debts, have the arrogance to believe that those debts should be inflated further rather than managed and reduced and willingly snuggle itself into the arms of a snake oil salesman who self evidently made his money - if it was ever his money at all - in the chaotically criminal post-communist fall of Eastern Europe and who had previously been turned down by other Scots sufficiently grounded to realise that if the offer seemed too good to be true then it probably was too good to be true.

7. What's my preferred outcome? Hibernian supremacy in Edinburgh, annual European adventures, annual cup wins and a massive growth in the Hibernian supporting family for decades to come.

8. And Hearts? Really, who cares? Which is where this all started because it is the fact that no-one particularly cares abut them that really drives them into a frenzy. Outside of them, no-one cares if they go bust, disappear, limp on, become Cowdenbeath's biggest rivals or decline to a social club somewhere in West Edinburgh. The most damning thing you Yams reading this face? In the end, you just don't matter very much.

Excellent summary of the story so far GGTH

[rcarter1]

Monster Post ODS.

Crystallises it perfectly. I feel for some individual Yams, but the club deserves its fate ten fold..

[CraigHibee]

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Oh how the mighty have fallen, Have a butchers at these three stories.

If you cant be bothered reading the full articles I have quoted my favourite bits.

23rd Oct 2005.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...earts-job.html



14th July 2006

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-Cup-pair.html



20th Aug 2007

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/6954606.stm



You honestly couldn't make it up. GGTTH

funniest bit is on the 3rd article

"A ray of hope for those fearing that Romanov will run this club into the ground for his personal profit"

pffft hahahaha

[Hermit Crab]

Latest from banderson.

“@BarryAnderson_8: Key to #Hearts' #SPL future is Lithuanian court declaring UBIG bankrupt. Not happened yet. #SPL may need to wait till it does before acting.”

[Gus Fring]

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Latest from banderson.

“@BarryAnderson_8: Key to #Hearts' #SPL future is Lithuanian court declaring UBIG bankrupt. Not happened yet. #SPL may need to wait till it does before acting.”

What an idiot. A court making a decision on bankruptcy would make it easier to decide, but that isn't the process just now. As it stands UBIG have just said they are insolvent, not bankrupt. They aren't the same thing.

I don't think we've had any information that UBIG has started bankruptcy proceedings? Unless Barry knows something we don't, which is highly unlikely

[CraigHibee]

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There was a thread over on Brokeback about this, one of them said he'd been told the same and was trying to find out if it meant anything but he was hounded for being a "hobo" even though he gave the name of the person who told him it.

Reading his post again it was actually pretty accurate, they don't like the truth over there it seems as he's now banned.

It's near the start of this thread http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....d/page__st__50

Post #79 onwards if you're interested.

they are a shower of fannies over there, the boy merely states the obvious and they attack him like keyboard gangsters, cant wait until they die

[Golden Bear]

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Latest from banderson.

“@BarryAnderson_8: Key to #Hearts' #SPL future is Lithuanian court declaring UBIG bankrupt. Not happened yet. #SPL may need to wait till it does before acting.”

Meanwhile tubby Salmond increases the overseas aid budget.

[Thecat23]

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There was a thread over on Brokeback about this, one of them said he'd been told the same and was trying to find out if it meant anything but he was hounded for being a "hobo" even though he gave the name of the person who told him it.

Reading his post again it was actually pretty accurate, they don't like the truth over there it seems as he's now banned.

It's near the start of this thread http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....d/page__st__50

Post #79 onwards if you're interested.

It's 100% true mate. I'd I'm good friends with one of them. They are so deluded its frightening.

[tamig]

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We are a football club and a business. Our core competitor has been undergoing a slow motion financial disaster which will present us with a unique business development opportunity whichever way it turns out and you think we shouldn't be discussing it?

There is a world of a difference between not caring abut them and seeing opportunity for ourselves in their demise.

If you can't see that then.....

Think that one just went right over your head.

[Makaveli]

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It's 100% true mate. I'd I'm good friends with one of them. They are so deluded its frightening.

It's not just the delusion, it's the paranoid way they round on anyone who dares raise a dissenting voice.

Even when the guy provides a name, they concoct new ways to dismiss him and keep shouting him down as an outsider.

Reading Kickback is like watching a documentary on life under a dictator.

[PatHead]

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It's not just the delusion, it's the paranoid way they round on anyone who dares raise a dissenting voice.

Even when the guy provides a name, they concoct new ways to dismiss him and keep shouting him down as an outsider.

Reading Kickback is like watching a documentary on life under a dictator.

As opposed to supporting a club under one

[hibbypostie]

I don't get them at all(prob for the best) this must be the biggest case of mass stockholm syndrome ever banning anyone who dares question the regime bareback seems to be run like a totalitarian state they don't have mods they have the Stasi

[Keith_M]

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I honestly don't know any Hibs fan who wants them to stay alive. I know a few who are not bothered one way or other but none who actively want them to survive.

The poll on this thread kinda contradicts that, though. It has the absolute narrowest of majority (50.1%) wanting to see the end of them.


I actually know quite a few Hibbies who don't want them to go bust.

[s.a.m]

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The poll on this thread kinda contradicts that, though. It has the absolute narrowest of majority (50.1%) wanting to see the end of them.


I actually know quite a few Hibbies who don't want them to go bust.

A further 36% want to see them in a lower division, though! I'm not sure the prevailing mood is magnanimous.

[Hibercelona]

According to them, its all going to be ok. Because Doncaster is on their side.

Was he not on the side of another club last season?

[Gus Fring]

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According to them, its all going to be ok. Because Doncaster is on their side.

Was he not on the side of another club last season?

I'm no sure I'd want Doncaster on my side anyway given how useless he is. I'd rather play against him than with him

[The Sea-gull]

Listening to radio. Hearing John Robertson, Alan Preston and some random fans saying they won't be relegated this season. They might be right but it is typical yam attitude "it'll no happen coz we say it won't". Just like griffiths goal wasn't over the line because they said it wasn't and hibs will never win the Scottish cup coz they say we won't. Preston's attempts at putting a positive spin on things smacks of utter desperation. Chick young, brian mclaughlin and Richard Gordon pulling him apart.

[Col2]

Alan Preston, John Blobbo, Brian what's his name are giving a rosy picture in radio. Preston sounds like he is in tears blaming everyone else and saying UBIG is nothing to do with club.

Chic comes on and tells Preston to stop talking rubbish.

No shame, no remorse and they sound like the guys defending sevco when it went pear shaped.

Hope they all rot in hell.

[Hibercelona]

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Alan Preston, John Blobbo, Brian what's his name are giving a rosy picture in radio. Preston sounds like he is in tears blaming everyone else and saying UBIG is nothing to do with club.

Chic comes on and tells Preston to stop talking rubbish.

No shame, no remorse and they sound like the guys defending sevco when it went pear shaped.

Hope they all rot in hell.

Don't you know that "all is barry" and that it's "all very complex" to us mere hobos?

Well done to Chick for realizing that Vlad was a crook from the very beginning.

The rest of us had no idea....

Says Hearts fans have been acting with dignity and class....

Then goes on to say that Rangers fans also behaved with dignity and class....


I'd like to know his definition of dignity and class.