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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    Hope so, but can't help thinking nothing will happen to them to be honest, you know what they are like, nobody anywhere has said any different other than this silly fans buy out lark.

    Just sayin like...
    Nobody? Apart from the Lithuanian Government, and the administrators of UKIO Bankas, and HMRC, and the combined knowledge of Hibs.net, you mean.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    Hope so, but can't help thinking nothing will happen to them to be honest, you know what they are like, nobody anywhere has said any different other than this silly fans buy out lark.

    Just sayin like...
    Don't expect anything in the mainstream media until they actually go pop. Hearts aren't a big team (in Edinburgh or elsewhere) so don't have the constant media attention of some clubs. Those that do cover Hearts either aren't competent enough to do any digging or don't want to be kicked off the gravy train. Look what happened to STV, they pressed until it hurt.

    Please don't make the mistake of thinking because you're not hearing anything that nothing is happening. Dominos, lots of them, one at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Don't expect anything in the mainstream media until they actually go pop. Hearts aren't a big team (in Edinburgh or elsewhere) so don't have the constant media attention of some clubs. Those that do cover Hearts either aren't competent enough to do any digging or don't want to be kicked off the gravy train. Look what happened to STV, they pressed until it hurt.

    Please don't make the mistake of thinking because you're not hearing anything that nothing is happening. Dominos, lots of them, one at a time.
    Fair enough but Dunfermline aren't a big team either....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    Fair enough but Dunfermline aren't a big team either
    ....
    They have gone Pop though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    They have gone Pop though.
    I know they have Crops, but the Pars story came out of the blue compared to the never ending saga of the yaks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    I know they have Crops, but the Pars story came out of the blue compared to the never ending saga of the yaks...
    The Pars story has been bubbling away since last season.


    When UBIG held the security, in lieu of debt, over Tynie it was written into the agreement that it would mature some time in June (18th or something? an exact date WAS applied). Since it was written over to UKIO and will now be in the hands of UKIO's liquidators I reckon it won't be called in until that date - unless the UBIG investigation comes to head sooner and some other liability is discovered and called in before then. Even so it'll be a double whammy, the tribulations of both UBIG and UKIO will hit Hearts heavily and either aspect on their own would be enough to sink them - for those not paying attention this will appear as though it has "come out the blue". In fact it'll be 'Straight Outta Kaunas'.

    The only other way they will be hit sooner, and subsequently hit by the football authorities this season, is if Frodo and Samwise Gamgee can throw the "one" ring into the....(oops, sorry wrong epic), is if Fedotas and/or Roman Romanov (still listed as Chairman) are dragged into the criminal proceedings currently facing His Vladness. My popcorn ran out ages ago watching this tale, but the denouement when it comes will bring fireworks, FACT etc etc ad-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    I know they have Crops, but the Pars story came out of the blue compared to the never ending saga of the yaks...
    It is public knowledge that Dunfermline have been in financial trouble for well over a year now (they failed to pay wages at the beginning of 2012) and possibly, privately, for much longer.

    Generally these things drag on as long as the owners/directors can keep the plates spinning but the demise, when it does eventually arrive, gives the appearance that it is sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762 View Post
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    I know they have Crops, but the Pars story came out of the blue compared to the never ending saga of the yaks...
    It didn't really, though.

    It would have been discussed on the Pars equivalent of Hibs.net, I'm sure, for a long time. The fact that it wasn't national news merely reflects the relative size of them compared to the Hearts and the Huns.

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    In the Yams share prospectus it said that UBIG would continue with the debt as status quo but would be reviewed in July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treadstone View Post
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    In the Yams share prospectus it said that UBIG would continue with the debt as status quo but would be reviewed in July.
    Wouldn't rely too much on that assertion now, given developments in recent months

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmashinGlass View Post
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    Wouldn't rely too much on that assertion now, given developments in recent months
    Just mention it as the way it was worded seemed a bit "it can't go on like this" kind of thing, a bit foreboding if you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treadstone View Post
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    Just mention it as the way it was worded seemed a bit "it can't go on like this" kind of thing, a bit foreboding if you will.
    I get you. It would have been a lot simpler (and a damned lot less misleading) for them to state in the prospectus "either way, we're ******

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmashinGlass View Post
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    I get you. It would have been a lot simpler (and a damned lot less misleading) for them to state in the prospectus "either way, we're ******
    UBIG would say "what's this we Kemo Sabe ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    http://local.stv.tv/edinburgh/222716...ns-groups-bid/


    STV now have an article with some quotes from Ian Murray MP. Basically it's his job as an impartial outsider to get them all together and come up with a credible bid for the club. He says they'll be dealing with the club directly and will have no dealings with Romanov.

    Doesnt explain how exactly he plans on helping buy Romanovs shares a)without speaking to him and b) whilst they are still frozen. In fact, the frozen assets aren't mentioned anywhere at all.

    one also has to assume that Hearts won't be happy about Mr Murray giving a interview to STV?
    Murray may underestimate the feelings of the Lithuanian government too. It was them that instigated the current proceedings after all, that seem to be the thing that will bring the tyncastle walls tumbling down. many people in Lithland are seriously pissed off about an organisation/squad o' torags that have been at the fiddle for years using people's investments etc to further their own interests. they just happen to have used a Scottish football club as a vehicle/plaything along the way. a Government from another country,albeit a fledgling in European marketing terms, are unlikely to have any feelings of saving a diddy fitba' club that owes their country and people a substantial amount o' dosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It's an ever-darkening sunset.
    I think you mean an ever lightening dawn...

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    It has been said over and over that the yams and ubig are one in the same!
    It has also been said vlad has majority shares in each!
    Vlad was also majority shareholder in ukio!(now defunked)
    I know ubig by name are the majority owners of hearts.
    If myself and every one else on hibs net know these FACTS !!(lol)
    Then so must sfa,spl,euafa,the 400000 twirlers and alsbarry Anderson.
    By his own admission vlad(using vladpseak) has said the baw is burst.
    The FACT!!(lol) none of the above can work out what happens next is not an enigma it is fear !
    When the sympathy starts we should never ever forget,ever!!!
    The years of crap we have had to endure from this mob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glesgahibby View Post
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    It has been said over and over that the yams and ubig are one in the same!
    It has also been said vlad has majority shares in each!
    Vlad was also majority shareholder in ukio!(now defunked)
    I know ubig by name are the majority owners of hearts.
    If myself and every one else on hibs net know these FACTS !!(lol)
    Then so must sfa,spl,euafa,the 400000 twirlers and alsbarry Anderson.
    By his own admission vlad(using vladpseak) has said the baw is burst.
    The FACT!!(lol) none of the above can work out what happens next is not an enigma it is fear !
    When the sympathy starts we should never ever forget,ever!!!
    The years of crap we have had to endure from this mob
    Agree 100% . All the " we owe it to ourselves ", big team / wee team bullsh*t etc should never be forgotton.
    How long before the fat slug Foulkes announces the Yams have been punished enough and they should be bailed out by the whole country because they are an " insitution ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Agree 100% . All the " we owe it to ourselves ", big team / wee team bullsh*t etc should never be forgotton.
    How long before the fat slug Foulkes announces the Yams have been punished enough and they should be bailed out by the whole country because they are an " insitution ".
    Not heard from Fatty "Lord" Foulkes for a while now. Is he on some extended foreign why-pish-your-breeks-in-wintry-Scotland-when-you-could-be-doing-it-here-in-sunnier-climes junket?

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    Is it not Ebbsfleet? They are trying to be sold now having been relegated from the Blue Square this season. The novelty of "owning" a football club soon wore off.
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    Is it not today or tomorrow the Yams are meant to be getting struck off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Not heard from Fatty "Lord" Foulkes for a while now. Is he on some extended foreign why-pish-your-breeks-in-wintry-Scotland-when-you-could-be-doing-it-here-in-sunnier-climes junket?
    what? Lord Foulkes? Likes a freebie you imply? surely not. Is this the same Lord Foulkes who helped ease Vlad and the current regime in and was a rabid supporter of the dear leader?
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    This Lord Foulkes?


    The genial Blair sycophant George Foulkes - Baron Foulkes of Cumnock since Tony elected him a life peer and now one of the henchmen trying to treat Labour's Scottish schizophrenia - was a most promising shadow cabinet minister until he came to suffer "a nasty fall on the slopes of Glenfiddich in July 1993".

    At a party held by the Scotch Whisky Association, the defence spokesman at the time, also a magistrate, drank adequately from the fountain of the water of life. One witness described Foulkes's subsequent behaviour as "like Zebedee on acid". The MP trundled back to the Commons for a crunch vote.

    Unfortunately, the pavements of Westminster dipped and rose like the deck of a clipper on a choppy sea, tossing him into the arms of pedestrians. An attempt to dance with a 70-year-old lady resulted in them both hugging the asphalt. Foulkes biffed one persistently helpful constable on the chin.

    He was arrested and invited to spend the night enjoying Her Majesty's hospitality. He pleaded guilty to assault and being drunk and disorderly, and was fined £1,050. He vowed not to drink whisky again.

    So I am delighted to hear of an invitation doing the rounds. In his capacity as president of the Caribbean-Britain Business Council, Foulkes is hosting a party at the House of Lords on 13 March: a "rum punch reception". A Caribbean holiday for two shall be raffled and guests hope Foulkes will lead the calypso. (He is, of course, bringing the punch.) Boing!
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...ep-433201.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    what? Lord Foulkes? Likes a freebie you imply? surely not. Is this the same Lord Foulkes who helped ease Vlad and the current regime in and was a rabid supporter of the dear leader?


    For those who don't know WC Fields he was a legendary comedy actor in the 30s and 40s and a bigger legend in boozing, he took Grouch Marx up to his loft at his home and Marx said there was enough booze to last a lifetime up there and said to Fields "Bill, prohibitions over" and Fields said "might come back again"

    But I really couldn't tell you who was the biggest sot between Fatty and WC, both were clowns in their own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    If what I've been hearing is even half true, this would be a fabulous result for him.
    What is it with this number "7" and the word "result" that keep reminding me of them? I know I'm getting a wee bit older, and my memory is not as great as it once was! I was thinking that maybe Hearts had a sponsorship deal that was worth 7 figures or was it with product that was made by Coca Cola that was on their shirts? Can some please help me out!!!

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    Sorry, no new info but I don't like seeing this thread off page 1! Just on a conversational note that's 3 weeks in a row with no home game income for Yams & it very much looks like Locke was told to get rid of Barr. The tick tock & drip drip continues!

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    http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//c...053062&#result


    I see the Heart of Midlothian 2005 Company now has a dissolved note against its name in the Companies House web list.

    Good to know they are not ignoring the Yams failures to comply with their rules.

    Although this will have no real affect on the football club Company, did HOMFC 2005 not have a small percentage of the PLC's shares ( about 3% I think ).

    If they have not been transferred, Her Majesty will now be the proud owner of part of Yam F C. .

    Will she be invited to join SOH or whatever the maroon cardigan brigade are calling themselves this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//c...053062&#result


    I see the Heart of Midlothian 2005 Company now has a dissolved note against its name in the Companies House web list.

    Good to know they are not ignoring the Yams failures to comply with their rules.

    Although this will have no real affect on the football club Company, did HOMFC 2005 not have a small percentage of the PLC's shares ( about 3% I think ).

    If they have not been transferred, Her Majesty will now be the proud owner of part of Yam F C. .

    Will she be invited to join SOH or whatever the maroon cardigan brigade are calling themselves this week.
    If Her Maj is now part of Hearts and they owe all that money to HMRC, doesn't that mean they owe it to themselves?

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    Latest news update concerns the Yams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//c...053062&#result


    I see the Heart of Midlothian 2005 Company now has a dissolved note against its name in the Companies House web list.

    Good to know they are not ignoring the Yams failures to comply with their rules.

    Although this will have no real affect on the football club Company, did HOMFC 2005 not have a small percentage of the PLC's shares ( about 3% I think ).

    If they have not been transferred, Her Majesty will now be the proud owner of part of Yam F C. .

    Will she be invited to join SOH or whatever the maroon cardigan brigade are calling themselves this week.
    Was it CH that instigated the striking-off process, or was it housekeeping on the part of the company itself?

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