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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    http://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithu....d?id=61153405


    A new article on Vlad , his bank, UBIG and his associates but all in Lithuanian

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    Vladimir, he say "I am not an athlete, I am a dancer."


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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Vladimir, he say "I am not an athlete, I am a dancer."
    Maybe he say: I not a thief, I is a chancer!

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    16th today which means its supposed to be payday, although to be honest I can't see why wages would be a problem for the rest of the season.

    However, if they weren't to be paid today.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    http://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithu....d?id=61153405
    A new article on Vlad , his bank, UBIG and his associates but all in Lithuanian

    Over to the Hibs.net Enigma operators.
    Ran it through Babelfish here is the result. Bit long winded so I have put it in four parts.

    Regis, an inconspicuous building in the old town of Kaunas,krūvonsuvedėbig money and law enforcement, political and business elite still owned by it recently.These individuals are in fact eksparlamentarė, socialdemokratė S Boreikienė, her husband, former head of financial crime investigation service (FCIS) Guide to Joe Boreika and the Bank's Empire developer Vladimir Romanov.
    DELFI, v.Boreikienėsand r.Boreikos, carried out the pre-trial investigation has revealed not only the Boreikųlinks with The Bank.Also revealed is not less interesting background, how to flourish started now property for a few million dollars with v.Boreikienė. Turns out, a large investment it has received interest-free loans from her former husband and her own subjects, but many of the alleged lender prisiekinėj one pamenantysinvestigators, that would be something of a former Commander of the FCIS skolinę wife.Although the ruins of the prosecutors late last year, reported a study on the Boreikų activity of the subject cut off, for now, this decision by the Prosecutor General's Office again. It is not excluded that the investigation can be upgraded.

    The Bank's business logic: the 55,000, it returns
    In the center of this story in one building, located in the old town of Kaunas, Vilnius g. 39. This building helped Boreikoms get rich, while researchers led to say the least, strange Bank Holding companies and related financial transactions.That the pre-trial investigation hit this building and the same Bank Holding, DELFI confirmed to the Prosecutor General added organised crime and corruption investigation department Prosecutor James V Anderson.
    "Yes, there's not everything revolves (around premises in Vilnius (g) 39 – DELFI"), but this was one of the episodes, "said s. V Anand.
    premises in Vilnius 2008 g. 39 of Boreikų bought the company "Sinvita", atseikėjusi them more than 3.36 million. molded. For this amount, the company acquired the 139-square-foot catering premises and 216,42 sq.m. (m) commercial facilities. The real deal was funded by The Bank, "Sinvitai" paskolinęs for the purchase of the premises necessary for the money, and then on the hard grounds of perceived himself to have been the real grąžintoju of the loan.
    In the course of the investigation, the data available for DELPHI, it was found that the Bank "Sinvitai" lent 993 thousand. million (almost EUR 3,43. Lt), for a loan by the pledge of the premises referred to in Kaunas, Vilnius has been g. 39.
    The first interesting fact is that almost a million euros to a loss of agricultural Bank of skolino operating company, which shortly after receiving this loan forgave nearly all the employees: DELFI available data, in July 2008 by "Sinvitoje" left workers 74 6.
    But even more interesting is the fact that close to a million euros for the Bank Holding Company paskolinęs immediately undertook to pay close to the company as much as lent. DELFI, immediately after the "Sinvitos" with the Boreikomis of the transaction, in June 2008, the Bank became a leaseholder, incurring all of these premises, the monthly pay after 35,442 thous. Lt rental – or $ 100 per square meter. This, according to the study, more than two times higher than the average cost of rent in the old town of Kaunas. Under these conditions, The Bank undertook to rent premises for 10 years – exactly as long as the loan amounted to "Sinvitai" the term. During the 10 years of the Bank "Sinvitai" would be paid nearly 3.29 million. Lt rental is just less than the same bank has lent for the purchase of those premises.
    Another stranger seems to be the fact that, according to the study, pay a lot of rent of premises used Farm committed to the Bank. DELFI available material indicates that the location of the offices of the investigators have found establish "Athlete" and "Steak House" and locked the door of the Bank activity in the premises of išsinuomojusio signs.
    Just last April, when investigators have also explored what v. Bank of Romanovo requires such transaction with the "Sinvita" Vilniaus g. 35 opened The Bank's Customer Service Department – this was one of the last steps in the development of the Bank.
    Whether the new Department was indeed needed, or that only the Bank was trying to justify the deal with "Sinvita" – it remains anyone's guess. Although all the constructions of Kaunas branch of the Agricultural Bank operated, located in Liberty Avenue, just a few hundred yards away.
    in July 2008 the "Sinvitai" in the lead, a former Agricultural Bank and started An investment group (ŪBIG) of the bank employee Hassan Vaičiulytė. It is already becoming "Sinvitos" Director, in August 2009, the company Boreikų bought the premises in Vilnius still g. 39-76,6 sq. (m) not fitted with a loft. For this property, DELPHI knowledge, "Sinvita", atseikėjo 99 Boreikoms thous. Lt. Last deal was funded by the Office of the President of the Board at the time of ŪBIG Deputy Boris Dementavičiūtė. By the way, they borrowed the funds and interest (for a total of more than 100 thousand. Lt) ŪBIG Manager returned within about three months.
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    It continues.

    V.Boreikienės: thegenerouslendersandnepamenantysthatsomeoneskolino


    On the activities of the law enforcement Boreikų a few years ago approached the Prime Minister's Office held at that time Andrius Kubilius. The Conservative leader first premises in Vilnius užkliuvo g. 39 fluctuations in the value of V Boreikienė those premises that sold septynissyk more expensive than those purchased. The truth is, there's a. Kubilius to it or not, as far as the sutirštino colors. Mat V Boreikienė this property purchased in 1996, when its market price could really achieve about 480 thousand. Lt."There is no there is no contradictory information. Investigation: was paid (for accommodation in DELFI) as much as you deserve. Was the only version of the form letter to the Prime Minister, that sold out seven times more expensive than those purchased. But it was incorrectly stated that the purchased in 2004, and sold in 2008 was actually purchased in 1996, the tax office has carried out an inspection, carried out an assessment. And found that the price at which you sold, basically in line with the market price of tuometę, DELFI said attorney s. V Anand.
    But investigators on the other užkliuvo building tour from hand to hand.
    The data available for DELPHI, the purchase of premises in Vilnius, g. Boreikienė, v. 39, pointed out that the money received by one of the politician and real estate marketing network "to" the founders George Emmanuel Ortizui a ui for an "Supervisata" shares of the company for the above 480 thousand. Lt. However, the researchers are interested in at this deal, and it's what the money itself v. Boreikienė bought "Supervisatos" shares. The main source of income, knowledge of DELPHI, the politician has made loans of the thirteen individuals, but none questioned the lender was unable to confirm the money V skolinęs. Boreikienei.
    That such circumstances there have been endorsed and s. V Anand. "It was such a contradictory impressions. Some of the skolinę, the other neskolino neatsiminė "-nesileisdamas into the details, said the Prosecutor.
    DELPHI knowledge, v. Boreikienė has declared a total borrowing of 331,89 thous. Lt. politikės to specify All lenders have had to be very well-meaning – because in each case, pointed out that the lender money politikei lends at no interest. The good lenders, DELFI, also did not require no deposit. But perhaps what's more interesting is the fact that the study interviewed 9 persons referred to recompense and none of them was able to confirm the funds skolinęs V Boreikienei.
    The data available for DELPHI 7, respondents claimed the money politikei neskolinę, including former V. Boreikienės man Bo Ivanauskas, from which the socdemė has more than 49 thousand borrowing. Lt Still two persons investigators testified differently. Witness K V prisimenanti, said that investigators at the time someone skolino money, but neither of whom, nor how many at skolino. And witness William Swede confirmed speaking to v. Boreikiene on the loan. He, DELFI, did not have to sign the loan at a glance, but claimed the money neskolinęs.
    The investigation revealed that v. skolinusis Boreikienė declared by persons whose details she was able to easily find out: was it for her relatives, ex-husband, "Supervisatos", which at the time was led by a woman, the staff.
    DELPHI knowledge, the researchers reached a simple conclusion: v. Boreikienė, "Supervisatos" shares gained for the funds, the sources of which are unknown. However, the investigation has been suspended for a long time barred – responsibility for a dozen years before potentially committed deeds can no longer be applied.
    In addition, according to s. Versecko, v. Boreikienės the lending transactions concerned referred to important documents have been destroyed.

    "in 1995, the purchase of shares, v. Boreikienė they have declared to the tax authorities. The following declaration was adopted by the Inspectorate. The Declaration was adopted at the same time with all the supporting documents. Means, it was added to the total loan contracts. But after the expiration of the ten-year maximum period of storage, everything is destroyed. So someone out there to verify there is no chance, "commented one wave after the investigation the Prosecutor.

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    Soldon the premises,with a clearloss
    Well, and the premises in Vilnius (g) 39 traveled from hand to hand. DELFI knowledge from one bank of the associated with the Holding Company to another.During the investigation, several premises to check the purchase-sale transactions, at the time of the transactions at the time of the former subject to market prices. in 2008, the purchase of facilities from Boreikų, "Sinvita" paid after 9.5 thous. Lt per square metre. Meanwhile, the real estate company "Inreal", while the old building in the old town of Kaunas in the first floor rooms costing between 5 – 6.5 thous. Com for "square". As far as the higher price for the same period refers to the "Ober-Haus": according to the statistics, in May 2008, the shopping area in the old town of Kaunas has cost from 4,5 to 8 thousand. Lt per square metre.
    Shortly after the acquisition of the premises of the Boreikų, "Sinvita" has apparently loss-making sale of the premises in the bargain. The Bank expects the Economy to "Optimal asset management" in August 2010, the premises on the first floor of the same building sold for EUR 3 million. Lt – after about 8,46 thous. Lt per square metre.
    Although smaller than in the case of a transaction with the Boreikomis, and this price significantly by market averages. The Mat at the time had already been įsibėgėjęs property prices fall. "Ober-Haus, the premises of the old town of Kaunas, then, for the commercial was paid for from 3.6 up to 5,5 thous. Lt.
    The company "Optimal asset management" in October 2010 and sold by Boreikų purchased the eaves. For this deal, "Sinvita" got even a little more than a paid Boreikoms per 100 thous. Lt.

    The Centre of registers of data supplied by DELFI, "Sinvita" has changed many times shareholders. For some time the largest shareholder was the already mentioned "optimal asset management company", and now is mainly "Sinvitos" owned by another company, closely related to the ŪBIG ŪBIG akcininkei, "the associated asset management". This company registered in Kaunas, k. Donelaičio g. 60 – at the same address as ŪBIG.
    (Not)died
    Kaunas public prosecutors have decided to terminate the proceeding in respect of the Boreikų. Some epizoduose the investigation stated that responsibility cannot be applied due to a statute of limitations, the other would not (A) the offences referred to in the complaint ... affordable web hosting features.
    However, the Prosecutor General's Office has decided to view the ruins of the prosecutors gathered the material and assess whether justifiably interrupted this pretrial investigation. This was confirmed by the General Prosecutor's Office of DELFI organised crime and corruption investigation Department Chief Prosecutor Lawrence Arun.
    "So, the pre-trial investigationmaterial is taken. However,we are notyetmadea decision(whetherto update thestudyinDELPHI). You reallycan'tpredict, "saidArunI..

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    V.Boreikienė: it'sa politicalcrackdown on
    V. Boreikienė argued only by DELFI is aware that her and her husband, interrupted pretrial investigation again found themselves in the hands of prosecutors. DELFI has a politician thinks it would be a political crackdown in consequence of the investigation update.
    "Appreciate as a political crackdown. There is no such thing, where would be a violation of the laws of the Republic of Lithuania. And that, I guarantee. If such things happen, it is above the law ",-said v. Boreikienė.
    "Only of you have learned. And that's going to some secret actions, this užkulisiniai is a fact of life, "added the interviewed person.
    Asked to comment on his relationship with The Bank, the politician said that coming down to the details.
    "Ican guaranteeto you, as a journalist, that everything isbluff. The studies areinterrupted.The Prosecutor's Officetwiceinvestigated, nothing isfound, the case isterminated. Moredo not haveanythingto comment on, "saidv.Boreikienė.
    Preparinga warmplace?
    In the elections to the Sejm V Pernykščiuose. Boreikienė was recorded in the number of socdemų in the list of 32. Such a position, it would be the location of the Parliament (Seimas) garantavusi, but the politician has received relatively little priority votes and swept through about two dozen positions down, as on the side of the Parliament. But DELPHI knowledge, it may soon lay claim to a new high. True, farm Minister Lucien Vėsaitė and her team still tentatively accepted on completion of these duties.
    Unofficial data from the Ministry of Agriculture, DELPHI is considering merging the two business support agencies, disponuojančias in European Union funds: "Invest in Lithuania" and "Versli" in Lithuania. After joining, according to the sources, the new institution of DELPHI Executive Chair can hit the former wife of the Commander of the FCIS.
    Minister of economy b. Vėsaitė DELFI claimed that the ongoing audit, after which it is decided what to do with those two agencies. "Now there are carried out the audit. When I will have the results of the audit, in fact we are then we will take a decision, "the Minister explained.
    Currently,there are no plansto combinethe agenciesthemselves. "So far,there is nosuch plans," saidb.Vėsaitė.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
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    Maybe he say: I not a thief, I is a chancer!
    Or more likely "I'm not the Messiah, I'm just a very naughty boy."

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    A lot to get through there, and I confess I gave up- it would have been easier to read in Lithuanian. Through my rose-tinted specs, I prefer to think of it as more bad news for Hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    A lot to get through there, and I confess I gave up- it would have been easier to read in Lithuanian. Through my rose-tinted specs, I prefer to think of it as more bad news for Hearts.

    Just for you Bob, the Russian/English version.

    http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/2...267043588.html


    If Vlad is serious, this could tie the Yams up in knots for years, if not decades.

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    Just for you Bob, the Russian/English version.

    http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/2...267043588.html


    If Vlad is serious, this could tie the Yams up in knots for years, if not decades.
    Thank you my friend!

    This stinks of one of those high-handed counter-attacks to throw the authorities off the scent/make them back down/come to the table to negotiate, but I suspect its the start of a process to keep him at liberty for as long as possible.

    Agree, it doesn't look good for the Yams. A shame.

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    Thank you my friend!

    This stinks of one of those high-handed counter-attacks to throw the authorities off the scent/make them back down/come to the table to negotiate, but I suspect its the start of a process to keep him at liberty for as long as possible.

    Agree, it doesn't look good for the Yams. A shame.
    Does anyone know what the natives across the road are saying in Kickback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Does anyone know what the natives across the road are saying in Kickback?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    A lot to get through there, and I confess I gave up- it would have been easier to read in Lithuanian. Through my rose-tinted specs, I prefer to think of it as more bad news for Hearts.
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    Just for you Bob, the Russian/English version.
    http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/2...267043588.html
    If Vlad is serious, this could tie the Yams up in knots for years, if not decades.
    Two different stories here, the one I got from greengingers earlier link and ran through babelfish for a rough translation looks like a corruption investigation by 'Delfi' a newspaper I think.

    Ran it again through google translate and it seems a particularly dirty story. A politician and her husband, an FCIS officer (financial crime lackey) and the mad one.

    The smelling of rat was apparent when a loan was paid back almost right away after 'sinvita' purchased a building. The bank moved in and paid double what the place was worth in rent over a 10 year period paying almost the same as the original loan. I am guessing but i think the gist is the loan never existed.

    The stench of rodents was further evident as the bank that moved in already had premises a couple of hundred yards away.

    It looks like the politician got this at a discount price, paid with money 'loaned' from Vlad, let him move in and recouped (and more) the near genuine sale price from exorbitant rent.

    Documents are destroyed after ten years, the maximum period of storage, so it is difficult to prove this and statute of limitations may be applied. The Organised Crime and Corruption Investigation Department chief prosecutor is on the case and may re-open the investigation. The politician seems quite relaxed about it.

    Whenever I see a wee picture like the one below it usually is a tangled and dirty web.


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    Well, did they get paid yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Well, did they get paid yesterday?
    i heard they got part payment by being given surplus stock of "believe" t-shirts, balloons, keys rings and pens

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigHibee View Post
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    i heard they got part payment by being given surplus stock of "believe" t-shirts, balloons, keys rings and pens
    There is 500,000 of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigHibee View Post
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    i heard they got part payment by being given surplus stock of "believe" t-shirts, balloons, keys rings and pens
    And a month's supply of fairy cakes. At least they won't go hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Well, did they get paid yesterday?
    Think they've got the cash to pay their players until the end of the season due to the cup final they lost.

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    Think they've got the cash to pay their players until the end of the season due to the cup final they lost.
    Did /or has that money not been withheld??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo View Post
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    Did /or has that money not been withheld??
    Was a Hibs.net murmur, IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Was a Hibs.net murmur, IIRC.
    Thought I'd read it somewhere. So if it appears in here it must be more than a murmur?? ;-)

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    Thought I'd read it somewhere. So if it appears in here it must be more than a murmur?? ;-)
    Think it has to be independently verified by at least 3 posters, overheard in Greggs, scribbled on the lavvy wall at ER, and accompanied by the word "fact" in capitals.

    FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Think it has to be independently verified by at least 3 posters, overheard in Greggs, scribbled on the lavvy wall at ER, and accompanied by the word "fact" in capitals.

    FACT.
    Does hearing it on a no 26 bus count?? Obviously with the word "FACT" added somewhere??

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    Does hearing it on a no 26 bus count?? Obviously with the word "FACT" added somewhere??
    If only it was accompanied with 'END OF', then and only then would I give it the time of day.

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    If only it was accompanied with 'END OF', then and only then would I give it the time of day.
    So "ENDOF" & "FACT" then it may be believed. Noted!!

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    Sounds very similar to the recent....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo View Post
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    Does hearing it on a no 26 bus count?? Obviously with the word "FACT" added somewhere??
    Official Statement

    Only if the bus is parked at the Clermiston terminus. Anything heard east of Joppa is guaranteed gobtripe.

    FACT

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