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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

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  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by inglisavhibs View Post
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    That's the bit I am not sure about. Would they force the sale of Tynie?
    The liquidators of UBIG would call in the debt, part of which is secured. Once it was clear that the debt couldn't be repaid, they would exercise their security and take possession of Tynie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The liquidators of UBIG would call in the debt, part of which is secured. Once it was clear that the debt couldn't be repaid, they would exercise their security and take possession of Tynie.
    Have you ever come across a liquidator grant a long term lease on a property asset ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seveno View Post
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    Have you ever come across a liquidator grant a long term lease on a property asset ?
    Can't say I have, but I suppose it's feasible.

    It would need the consent of the creditors, though, and I reckon creditors would prefer to get a lump sum now.

    The other thing that may be relevant is that a liquidation of UBIG would be under Lith Law, and for all I know things are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    They are living in cloud coo-coo land.
    When have they never GG?, the word deluded seems to been invented with them in mind, hopefully not long now before they join their big brothers in division 3 or even better with their "pals" at Gretna 2000


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    I was wondering something, what would happen if, after taking in all the new season ticket sales, Vlad shut down the club and did a runner? If he then sold off whatever other assets he could realise, where would that leave them?
    Is this a feasible option?

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    They would be creditors of the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    They would be creditors of the club.
    400,000 creditors

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogo View Post
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    I was wondering something, what would happen if, after taking in all the new season ticket sales, Vlad shut down the club and did a runner? If he then sold off whatever other assets he could realise, where would that leave them?
    Is this a feasible option?
    The stadium is tide up in so many contractual agreements that the administrator/liquidator/new owners won't be able to touch the stadium or key assets, they will rent the stadium.

    There has been so much debt written off to various companies that there is no way there isn't security in the deal, as disclosed today the bank may have been used as Russians to launder money!!

    The alarm bells are ringing louder, no one has 1 iota what is going on but its clear its not going to end well.

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    If they went bust, or even into admin technically the season tickets would be worthless. As was pointed out during the Rangers mess, technically Duff & Duffer could have declared all the season tickets null and void and started trying to charge them all ticket prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonty View Post
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    http://www.nasdaqomxbaltic.com/marke...&downloadcsv=0
    -16%. hahahahahahearts

    First time its been under 10p and was close to hitting 8p. Thats what Big Teams are all about.
    Its worse than that. Its 0.085 Euros which is about 7.2p.... Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    If they went bust, or even into admin technically the season tickets would be worthless. As was pointed out during the Rangers mess, technically Duff & Duffer could have declared all the season tickets null and void and started trying to charge them all ticket prices.
    And their share certificates would'nt be worth the paper they are printed on.

    But seeing they ain't got said certificates yet could they ask for their money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    And their share certificates would'nt be worth the paper they are printed on.

    But seeing they ain't got said certificates yet could they ask for their money back.
    They haven't filed a notice of allotment yet either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    They haven't filed a notice of allotment yet either.
    What does that mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    What does that mean?
    I think its where you grow vegetables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_nation View Post
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    I think its where you grow vegetables.
    Yams are vegetables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    They haven't filed a notice of allotment yet either.
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    What does that mean?

    I think he's alluding to the only viable plan for the PBS land after it's been sold off


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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    What does that mean?
    It's a form that has to be filed at Companies House when a company issues new shares. It has to be filed within a month of allotment (i.e. issue of the shares), which should have been about three weeks ago. Until it's filed the shares don't officially exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    They haven't filed a notice of allotment yet either.
    Am I correct in thinking that they have two months to do this? So they still have a week and a bit=ish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    It's a form that has to be filed at Companies House when a company issues new shares. It has to be filed within a month of allotment (i.e. issue of the shares), which should have been about three weeks ago. Until it's filed the shares don't officially exist.
    So they've just effectively given Vlad money for nothing.

    Would it not be illegal to take money for something claiming it was for shares then not register them with companies house? I'd have thought that'd be classed as fraud or theft or something?

    What's your suspicions he's up to with this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    So they've just effectively given Vlad money for nothing.

    Would it not be illegal to take money for something claiming it was for shares then not register them with companies house? I'd have thought that'd be classed as fraud or theft or something?

    What's your suspicions he's up to with this one?
    It's probably just the yams riding roughshod over the law of the land again - they never file anything on time - but in the event of liquidation/administration it would be treated as a failed share issue (they didn't reach the target) and the prospective shareholders would become ordinary creditors who would get nothing as the secured debt exceeds the assets.

    If, as is claimed, they're now operating at breakeven Mr Romanov has just added a million to the amount of debt he can recover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Who Olga or Juljia, I'm sure Juljia was reported as Vlad 's niece and Olga would be Vlad's sister with Goncaruk being her married name.


    Makings of a song here - The Romanov Family, bit like the " Norwich Family "


    the "addams family" would be more apt me thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    It's a form that has to be filed at Companies House when a company issues new shares. It has to be filed within a month of allotment (i.e. issue of the shares), which should have been about three weeks ago. Until it's filed the shares don't officially exist.
    Maybe they have filed it in the Lithuanian equivalent?
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    So they've just effectively given Vlad money for nothing.
    That's always been the case as even if they receive shares/share certificates they arenae worth a fekn sook.

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    Was it ever made clear where the cash from share sales ,cake bakes etc was going to be kept ? I seem to remember the Yams could'nt pay by credit card -cash only.

    So,was an account opened here to hold the funds or has Vlad put them under his bed for safe keeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Was it ever made clear where the cash from share sales ,cake bakes etc was going to be kept ? I seem to remember the Yams could'nt pay by credit card -cash only.

    So,was an account opened here to hold the funds or has Vlad put them under his bed for safe keeping.
    That money will be long gone.

    Straight out the country,and in an offshore account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Was it ever made clear where the cash from share sales ,cake bakes etc was going to be kept ? I seem to remember the Yams could'nt pay by credit card -cash only.

    So,was an account opened here to hold the funds or has Vlad put them under his bed for safe keeping.
    It was needed just for running costs so will have been used as it came in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    It was needed just for running costs so will have been used as it came in.

    So, next Fridays wages, will come from _ _ _ _ ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    So, next Fridays wages, will come from _ _ _ _ ?????
    Semi-final money and transfer income?

    Cup final and season tickets will cover the two after that and transfer money will cover the first month of the close season.

    Can't see anything happening this season but there may be some behind the scenes "shuffling" ready for major changes in the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuanH78 View Post
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    Its worse than that. Its 0.085 Euros which is about 7.2p.... Just saying
    I did notice afterwards but was chuckling too much to edit. They're both pretry much 0 anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    So, next Fridays wages, will come from _ _ _ _ ?????
    Banking delay until Monday and gate receipts processed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuanH78 View Post
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    Its worse than that. Its 0.085 Euros which is about 7.2p.... Just saying
    At that price Ukio is only worth about £25m. Don't think it could fall much lower before someone throws in the towel.

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