Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

**green glory** · 07-02-2013 06:47 PM

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If you haven't read the new statements in the official zombie site I suggest you do. JT pretty much calling on their fans to boycott all media not subservient to the Sevco cause.

Staggering stuff.

THURSDAY, 07 FEBRUARY 2013 17:02
Time For Fans To Unite
WRITTEN BY JAMES TRAYNOR

RANGERS, once again, appear to be under attack from the vindictive and downright malicious.

This isn’t paranoia and nor is it an attempt to play the victim card. There is no need for Rangers to do that because this club are no longer victims.
Rangers are in an extremely healthy financial position despite the best efforts of the media and others to suggest otherwise. Their desperation to see Rangers fail appears to be blinding them to a reality they don’t wish to view.
And I’m afraid their bile towards Rangers has poisoned their systems.
Once again, however, Rangers fans feel they have to react. Some are fretting, others are simmering, unsure what to do or say while a fair few aren‘t holding anything in reserve. They are venting their spleens.
Sadly for Rangers fans this is not a new phenomenon.
It is a fact that Rangers’ business cannot be reported in a fair or balanced manner. Stories are written to fit headlines which often bear little or no resemblance to the truth.
Rangers fans have every right to be angry and are entitled to expect the club to deal with those in the media, who wilfully distort, and also that close-knit gang of internet bloggers and posters. They will never have any connection with reality.
Of course, Rangers fans want to know what the club intend doing about this almost constant barrage of abuse. A great deal is the simple answer but the club cannot leap up on to the Ibrox roof and start screaming about the injustice of it.
The club must act in a responsible manner and our supporters have to understand that Rangers cannot react to every single internet bampot or each journalist or paper displaying a clear anti-Rangers agenda. But while it would be undignified to bawl and shout it would also be wrong to say and do nothing.
Over the last couple of days Rangers have tried to make it clear to media outlets that stories claiming a Singapore-based company are owed £400,000 are not accurate. Yet papers, TV and radio ran with their versions anyway.
They continue to report that Rangers face a Winding Up Petition but don’t point out this is a routine way of forcing payment and that there is no realistic threat of closure. They have chosen not to highlight the fact that Rangers believe agreement has been reached on a settlement sum which has actually been lodged with lawyers.
Wording of the agreement is all that stops this matter from being concluded.
But this issue is dealt with elsewhere on this site and I refer to it here only to show how difficult it is for some people to display basic decency and honesty. Despite what they and many in the media wish to believe Rangers are alive and well and there is a plan of action to try to deal with them, and also to curb the more deranged and spiteful critics.
But please, be patient. As soon as the changes agreed for Rangers PR and media kick in the approach will be very different. Details of those changes will be revealed soon enough but let me share something with you right now.
I worked in papers for years and I know that managements, editors and hacks don’t even miss a beat when they hear that a particular club’s fans say they aren’t going to buy the paper anymore. It means nothing because so far these threats have been empty.
Some fans do withdraw patronage but the fact nothing changes in terms of the balance of reporting suggests too few are exercising their right to switch.
If every fan who said he or she would never buy a particular paper again actually didn’t then those publications would be out of business. The bottom line is everything to the managements and shareholders of these companies and a sharp decline in sales would register like a thunder clap at boardroom level.
Too few fans realise just how much power they actually can command, especially if they’d step outwith their different groups and unite in one cause. Believe me, you could make media managements snap to attention and pay closer attention to the agendas of their editors, producers and journalists.
Just imagine the strength to be wielded if, instead of arguing among yourselves on forums, Twitter and Facebook, you all came together and acted as one massive and potent force for change. Just by refusing to acknowledge stories and broadcasts which you believe to be malicious you’d change the entire agenda.
Many are calling on the club to fire out banning orders and writs to various media outlets but an immediate and effective answer lies with the fans themselves. While a supporter cannot change his or her club because of the emotional investment, reading and listening habits can be altered very easily.
If fans can no longer trust a particular journalist or paper to be impartial they can stop reading. If they don’t like the agendas of a particular TV or radio station they don’t have to watch or listen.
Now, before we have the usual suspects out there in media land foaming at the mouth let me make it clear that I am not telling Rangers fans that every journo is working against this club. That level of paranoia might exist somewhere else but certainly not within Ibrox.
But why is it that so many continue to write or broadcast that this club is a new club when it is the owners who are new? Is it a lack of basic intelligence or is it something more sinister?
Why is there this obsession with Rangers and titles? Why is it always written that Rangers went down owing £130 plus million?
Why would a reporter write that Rangers had lost their Tupe case after it had been explained to him that last week’s ruling by the arbitration panel was nothing more than a procedural one and not a final decision on the actual case? A lack of smarts again, or something darker?
There are many examples of this level of reporting with regard to Rangers but I want to point out that I believe there are still a lot of good, honest hacks out there. Maybe they, too, should stand up for themselves and their profession.
But this club’s fans can make their play by realising it is your interest, your angst and rage which encourage the repeat offenders. Believe me, they get a real kick out of becoming the subjects of on-line threads and discussions and by paying attention, even if it is to hurl insults or use unacceptable language to describe them, you give them exactly what they want.
You are just about the only audience they have. Do not indulge them. Ignore their malice, pay no attention to their agendas, and do not let them into your heads.
I know there are various factions among Rangers supporters but why not stand united in this cause? Your attention is their oxygen. It can be so easily switched off.

***Ryan91*** · 07-02-2013 06:55 PM

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THURSDAY, 07 FEBRUARY 2013 17:02
Time For Fans To Unite
WRITTEN BY JAMES TRAYNOR

RANGERS, once again, appear to be under attack from the vindictive and downright malicious.

This isn't paranoia and nor is it an attempt to play the victim card. There is no need for Rangers to do that because this club are no longer victims.
Rangers are in an extremely healthy financial position despite the best efforts of the media and others to suggest otherwise. Their desperation to see Rangers fail appears to be blinding them to a reality they don't wish to view.
And I'm afraid their bile towards Rangers has poisoned their systems.
Once again, however, Rangers fans feel they have to react. Some are fretting, others are simmering, unsure what to do or say while a fair few aren't holding anything in reserve. They are venting their spleens.
Sadly for Rangers fans this is not a new phenomenon.
It is a fact that Rangers'; business cannot be reported in a fair or balanced manner. Stories are written to fit headlines which often bear little or no resemblance to the truth.
Rangers fans have every right to be angry and are entitled to expect the club to deal with those in the media, who wilfully distort, and also that close-knit gang of internet bloggers and posters. They will never have any connection with reality.
Of course, Rangers fans want to know what the club intend doing about this almost constant barrage of abuse. A great deal is the simple answer but the club cannot leap up on to the Ibrox roof and start screaming about the injustice of it.
The club must act in a responsible manner and our supporters have to understand that Rangers cannot react to every single internet bampot or each journalist or paper displaying a clear anti-Rangers agenda. But while it would be undignified to bawl and shout it would also be wrong to say and do nothing.
Over the last couple of days Rangers have tried to make it clear to media outlets that stories claiming a Singapore-based company are owed £400,000 are not accurate. Yet papers, TV and radio ran with their versions anyway.
They continue to report that Rangers face a Winding Up Petition but don't point out this is a routine way of forcing payment and that there is no realistic threat of closure. They have chosen not to highlight the fact that Rangers believe agreement has been reached on a settlement sum which has actually been lodged with lawyers.
Wording of the agreement is all that stops this matter from being concluded.
But this issue is dealt with elsewhere on this site and I refer to it here only to show how difficult it is for some people to display basic decency and honesty. Despite what they and many in the media wish to believe Rangers are alive and well and there is a plan of action to try to deal with them, and also to curb the more deranged and spiteful critics.
But please, be patient. As soon as the changes agreed for Rangers PR and media kick in the approach will be very different. Details of those changes will be revealed soon enough but let me share something with you right now.
I worked in papers for years and I know that managements, editors and hacks don't even miss a beat when they hear that a particular club's fans say they aren't going to buy the paper anymore. It means nothing because so far these threats have been empty.
Some fans do withdraw patronage but the fact nothing changes in terms of the balance of reporting suggests too few are exercising their right to switch.
If every fan who said he or she would never buy a particular paper again actually didn’t then those publications would be out of business. The bottom line is everything to the managements and shareholders of these companies and a sharp decline in sales would register like a thunder clap at boardroom level.
Too few fans realise just how much power they actually can command, especially if they'd step outwith their different groups and unite in one cause. Believe me, you could make media managements snap to attention and pay closer attention to the agendas of their editors, producers and journalists.
Just imagine the strength to be wielded if, instead of arguing among yourselves on forums, Twitter and Facebook, you all came together and acted as one massive and potent force for change. Just by refusing to acknowledge stories and broadcasts which you believe to be malicious you'd change the entire agenda.
Many are calling on the club to fire out banning orders and writs to various media outlets but an immediate and effective answer lies with the fans themselves. While a supporter cannot change his or her club because of the emotional investment, reading and listening habits can be altered very easily.
If fans can no longer trust a particular journalist or paper to be impartial they can stop reading. If they don't like the agendas of a particular TV or radio station they don’t have to watch or listen.
Now, before we have the usual suspects out there in media land foaming at the mouth let me make it clear that I am not telling Rangers fans that every journo is working against this club. That level of paranoia might exist somewhere else but certainly not within Ibrox.
But why is it that so many continue to write or broadcast that this club is a new club when it is the owners who are new? Is it a lack of basic intelligence or is it something more sinister?
Why is there this obsession with Rangers and titles? Why is it always written that Rangers went down owing £130 plus million?
Why would a reporter write that Rangers had lost their Tupe case after it had been explained to him that last week's ruling by the arbitration panel was nothing more than a procedural one and not a final decision on the actual case? A lack of smarts again, or something darker?
There are many examples of this level of reporting with regard to Rangers but I want to point out that I believe there are still a lot of good, honest hacks out there. Maybe they, too, should stand up for themselves and their profession.
But this club's fans can make their play by realising it is your interest, your angst and rage which encourage the repeat offenders. Believe me, they get a real kick out of becoming the subjects of on-line threads and discussions and by paying attention, even if it is to hurl insults or use unacceptable language to describe them, you give them exactly what they want.
You are just about the only audience they have. Do not indulge them. Ignore their malice, pay no attention to their agendas, and do not let them into your heads.
I know there are various factions among Rangers supporters but why not stand united in this cause? Your attention is their oxygen. It can be so easily switched off.

That is absolute comedy gold!

The Zombies will be wetting themselves.

**green glory** · 07-02-2013 06:56 PM

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That is absolute comedy gold!

The Zombies will be wetting themselves.

I'm wetting myself. :-D

***Jack Hackett*** · 07-02-2013 06:56 PM

Calling all loyal Sevco fans, here is your clubs advice....Stick your fingers in your ears and go LahLahLahLahLah

**Treadstone** · 07-02-2013 06:57 PM

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That is absolute comedy gold!

The Zombies will be wetting themselves.

Traynor is too bitter to be a PR man, although I do think him and chuckles were made for each other.

**green glory** · 07-02-2013 07:00 PM

"No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died".

Jim Traynor 13/6/12

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...e-able-1129166

***Mon Dieu4*** · 07-02-2013 07:06 PM

got to the part that said basic decency and honesty then couldn't read any more

waffle waffle pish pish

***greenlex*** · 07-02-2013 07:09 PM

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got to the part that said basic decency and honesty then couldn't read any more

waffle waffle pish pish

I had to wipe away the tears at that point to enable me to carry on.

***greenginger*** · 07-02-2013 07:11 PM

Of course with all this raging about money matters and potential court cases Fat Sally and his dire football team have escaped with hardly a moments scrutiny.

How very convenient for cretin.

Elephant Stone · 07-02-2013 07:12 PM

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Traynor is too bitter to be a PR man, although I do think him and chuckles were made for each other.

The sevco fans are eating out his hands.

The whole situation is just like when Whyte took over, the media were asking (legitimate) questions and the tribal instinct in them went into overdrive, it turned into an "us v them" situation and butter wouldn't melt in Whyte's mouth. Let's hope this plays out the same way.

They're so predictable it's hilarious.

***Billy Whizz*** · 07-02-2013 07:14 PM

Sounds like they have something to hide

***Jack Hackett*** · 07-02-2013 07:21 PM

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The sevco fans are eating out his hands.

The whole situation is just like when Whyte took over, the media were asking (legitimate) questions and the tribal instinct in them went into overdrive, it turned into an "us v them" situation and butter wouldn't melt in Whyte's mouth. Let's hope this plays out the same way.

They're so predictable it's hilarious.

I've just had a quick look on *******media, and there's actually quite a bit of sanity. More than a few of them are prepared to accept that they're being led by the nose and are having a go at the head in the sand loyal, especially on the Tom English thread....

....I feel dirty though...I'm away for a shower

**truehibernian** · 07-02-2013 07:29 PM

James Traynor and journalist in the same paragraph.................

........................and breathe.....................

Jim is as far removed from real journalism as Heather from Eastenders is to Slimfast shakes...............Jim, nae one listened to you on the Beeb......we just laughed at you.......you think we will listen to your lilian gish now

**Treadstone** · 07-02-2013 07:55 PM

Wednesday 06 Feb 18:28 Sevco statement signs off with

"The matter is unworthy of further comment."

**hibsbollah** · 07-02-2013 08:03 PM

In the very first paragraph he mucks up his singular and plural; the club 'is', not 'are', Traynor. You're supposed to make your living as a skilful manipulator of words, you bellend. And he then goes on to accuse his critics of 'a lack of smarts'.

**green glory** · 07-02-2013 08:18 PM

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In the very first paragraph he mucks up his singular and plural; the club 'is', not 'are', Traynor. You're supposed to make your living as a skilful manipulator of words, you bellend. And he then goes on to accuse his critics of 'a lack of smarts'.

To be fair his intended readership is comparable in intelligence to the primordial soup, so such details pass unnoticed.

It's looking like they're in the process of setting up a zombie nation ministry of the interior/propaganda, where the subservient will only get Chuckie approved lies fed to them. Without the external interference of the Fenian media he'll be able to play them like a fiddle. Cue disaster for Sevco.

**brog** · 07-02-2013 08:20 PM

This is genius!! I was half way through & I experienced a deja vu moment. Then it came to me - take away the fact this is being written about sevco & you could almost imagine it being one of Vlad's rants. What a combo, Fat Jim & Mad Vlad, you gotta love them!

**green glory** · 07-02-2013 08:22 PM

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**~~LeighLoyal~~** · 07-02-2013 08:40 PM

Traynor needs to be sectioned for that outburst, no one should call vlad mad again after that rant

**DarrenSQH** · 07-02-2013 08:51 PM

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Nice work

Sure he supports airdrie anyway. Haha

**Hank Schrader** · 07-02-2013 09:06 PM

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He's a fat, ugly and moronic C U Next Tuesday.

**The Green Goblin** · 07-02-2013 11:16 PM

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...-west-21370477

That article contains a direct quote from sevco which actually says "we do pay our bills on time..."

I just wish they would die, I really do.

***lapsedhibee*** · 08-02-2013 12:22 AM

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That article contains a direct quote from sevco which actually says "we do pay our bills on time..."

Is Private Eye calling him "Comical Fatti" yet?

***Moulin Yarns*** · 08-02-2013 05:37 AM

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"No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died".

Jim Traynor 13/6/12

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...e-able-1129166

You missed an even better quote

"Rangers are guilty.Of course they are. They’re cheats and liars. Everybody knows that. They can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA.
And of course they must be stripped of their titles, trophies and dignity. Oh, and don’t forget those five stars above their badge, Get them torn off as well."

**green glory** · 08-02-2013 07:58 AM

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You missed an even better quote

"Rangers are guilty.Of course they are. They’re cheats and liars. Everybody knows that. They can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA.
And of course they must be stripped of their titles, trophies and dignity. Oh, and don’t forget those five stars above their badge, Get them torn off as well."

And then his tune changed. When the job offer came in. Chuckie decides Jabba's spouting too much truth, so buys that along with the history.

**The Green Goblin** · 08-02-2013 08:17 AM

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You missed an even better quote

"Rangers are guilty.Of course they are. They’re cheats and liars. Everybody knows that. They can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA.
And of course they must be stripped of their titles, trophies and dignity. Oh, and don’t forget those five stars above their badge, Get them torn off as well."

I read that and wondered if it might be sarcasm (?) anyone else? It's not clear really

**WindyMiller** · 08-02-2013 08:29 AM

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I read that and wondered if it might be sarcasm (?) anyone else? It's not clear really

Nope!

Sounds 100% accurate to me G.G.

***greenginger*** · 08-02-2013 08:38 AM

I just noticed Malcolm Murray the Rangers/Sevco chairman had his directorship of the Company terminated just before Christmas. I must have missed it at the time, so who is the new Chairman of the football club ?

Murray does still seem to be a director of Rangers International but that is not the football club.