Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[green glory]

I forgot to mention I wish them nothing but misery and pain.


Just my opinion. :-D

[Ryan91]

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I forgot to mention I wish them nothing but misery and pain.


Just my opinion. :-D

I think you may just find that that opinion is shared by many of your fellow users on this board, myself included. You may also find that sentiment being shared by nearly every fan of Scottish football, except those of a Sevco persuasion

[Johnny Clash]

Not sure if this has been posted before but is seems worthy of support to me?



EARLY DAY MOTION 913

RANGERS TAX LIABILITIES
That this House notes that the owners of the club now playing in the Scottish Third Division called Rangers claim that it is the same club with the same history as the liquidated club also known as Rangers; further notes that 14 million in VAT and PAYE was withheld in the run-up to administration by the previous Rangers; further notes that the club is now cash-rich through a share issue which raised in excess of 20 million; condemns the use of insolvency laws to avoid paying tax owed; and calls on the Government to take steps to reclaim the outstanding monies from Rangers and to bring forward legislative proposals to prevent clubs and companies sidestepping their liabilities through liquidation and then carrying on trading with effectively the same name and in exactly the same business.

[Haymaker]

This could be fun..!

[ScottB]

Quite right, if they accepted reality, that they are a different club with no history then that would be the end of it. However, if they wish to carry on insisting it's business as usual, then they should have to deal with the negatives of that, as well as the positives they desire.

[Hibbyradge]

Absolutely nothing will come of this, if it's even heard.

[LeighLoyal]

Gorgeous George. The Bradford jihadi tim and The Sevco skelper!

[MB62]

I noticed today in the Daily ****** that Jim Traynor was going on about today being the day the SPL decide if they are going to take all Oldco's titles from them. He threatens that if the SPL decide to take away all previous titles won whilst Oldco were playing players paid through EBT's, then no rangers supporter will ever set foot in another club's ground and this would kill the game in Scotland.

They still don't get it do they.

Take their titles off them and let carry out their threat.

[SurferRosa]

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I noticed today in the Daily ****** that Jim Traynor was going on about today being the day the SPL decide if they are going to take all Oldco's titles from them. He threatens that if the SPL decide to take away all previous titles won whilst Oldco were playing players paid through EBT's, then no rangers supporter will ever set foot in another club's ground and this would kill the game in Scotland.

They still don't get it do they.

Take their titles off them and let carry out their threat.

Was that a promise..

[MB62]

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Was that a promise..

I honestly hope so, and I really hope they end up true to their word, pleeeeeeeeeeease.

[Saorsa]

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I noticed today in the Daily ****** that Jim Traynor was going on about today being the day the SPL decide if they are going to take all Oldco's titles from them. He threatens that if the SPL decide to take away all previous titles won whilst Oldco were playing players paid through EBT's, then no rangers supporter will ever set foot in another club's ground and this would kill the game in Scotland.

They still don't get it do they.

Take their titles off them and let carry out their threat.

Let them dae just that, I'd be delighted if they chose tae boycott ER, I'm sure the local residents will be delighted too when they dinnae have tae clean up the piss, spew and broken glass from their stairs efter a visit fae the stick twirling, buckie swilling, blue carrier bag jakey brigade. Get the flags oot.

This would kill the game in Scotland! The same way it died when they got punted fae the SPL! GTF Traynor ya fat slavering *** slimeball




no-one likes you but you really do care

[Spike Mandela]

Traynor rallying the Brown shirts again.

Pathetic!

[LeighLoyal]

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Traynor rallying the Brown shirts again.

Pathetic!

We don't want any The Sevco fans at our ground, and that includes you Traynor you shameless hun blowhard.

[Hibrandenburg]

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We don't want any The Sevco fans at our ground, and that includes you Traynor you shameless hun blowhard.

I wish there was a way to refuse the them tickets, but I'm sure we're required to allocate a certain % to away fans. 15% if I recall correctly.

[lapsedhibee]

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I wish there was a way to refuse the them tickets, but I'm sure we're required to allocate a certain % to away fans. 15% if I recall correctly.

[Hibrandenburg]

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You sir, have eyes like a ****hawk :-)

[jabis]

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You sir, have eyes like a ****hawk :-)

and you sir,have the panache of an uberfan

[Newry Hibs]

Commission into payments and title stripping has started.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21242267

Interesting to note the language used about the them .....

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The probe was launched before the company that ran Rangers - Rangers Football Club plc - was consigned to liquidation.
The consortium now running the club, led by chief executive Charles Green, has refused to recognise or co-operate with the investigation.

Kind of implies that it is the same club, just with different people at the top (according to the BBC).

[LeighLoyal]

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Commission into payments and title stripping has started.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21242267

Interesting to note the language used about the them .....

...
The probe was launched before the company that ran Rangers - Rangers Football Club plc - was consigned to liquidation.
The consortium now running the club, led by chief executive Charles Green, has refused to recognise or co-operate with the investigation.

Kind of implies that it is the same club, just with different people at the top (according to the BBC).

Let them call themselves Rangers FC, when the titles get stripped they will owe prize money of circa £8m to other member clubs. They'll have to admit they're not the same club officially or pay up. Over to you Chuckles.

[jacomo]

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Not sure if this has been posted before but is seems worthy of support to me?



EARLY DAY MOTION 913

RANGERS TAX LIABILITIES
That this House notes that the owners of the club now playing in the Scottish Third Division called Rangers claim that it is the same club with the same history as the liquidated club also known as Rangers; further notes that 14 million in VAT and PAYE was withheld in the run-up to administration by the previous Rangers; further notes that the club is now cash-rich through a share issue which raised in excess of 20 million; condemns the use of insolvency laws to avoid paying tax owed; and calls on the Government to take steps to reclaim the outstanding monies from Rangers and to bring forward legislative proposals to prevent clubs and companies sidestepping their liabilities through liquidation and then carrying on trading with effectively the same name and in exactly the same business.

[greenlex]

Any news from today? I need cheering up.

[LeighLoyal]

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Any news from today? I need cheering up.

http://www.channel4.com/news/the-unr...-key-questions



Good read here on the The Sevco. Thomson is quite a brave hack to keep the heat on the Mordor undead.



And here is a nice breakdown of the cheated gongs to be stripped if the tribunal verdict goes against oldco.

http://www.channel4.com/news/rangers...mmission-opens

[Jack Hackett]

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Commission into payments and title stripping has started.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21242267

Interesting to note the language used about the them .....

...kind of implies that it is the same club, just with different people at the top (according to the BBC).

Is this the same BBC who continually refer to them as being 'relegated' to Div 3?

[Baldy Foghorn]

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http://www.channel4.com/news/the-unr...-key-questions



Good read here on the The Sevco. Thomson is quite a brave hack to keep the heat on the Mordor undead.



And here is a nice breakdown of the cheated gongs to be stripped if the tribunal verdict goes against oldco.

http://www.channel4.com/news/rangers...mmission-opens

14 titles would be stripped if it goes against them....However would the clubs who lost points to derhun during the seasons involved, or the teams knocked out of cups in all rounds by derhun, be entitled to compensation?

[PatHead]

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14 titles would be stripped if it goes against them....However would the clubs who lost points to derhun during the seasons involved, or the teams knocked out of cups in all rounds by derhun, be entitled to compensation?

Who could they sue? The Huns are dead.

[StevieC]

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However would the clubs who lost points to derhun during the seasons involved, or the teams knocked out of cups in all rounds by derhun, be entitled to compensation?

Possibly entitled, but they wouldn't get any. Certainly not from the SPL, SFA or old hun.
It might be possible to take new hun to court, but I suspect it would be lengthy, costly and limited chance of success.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Possibly entitled, but they wouldn't get any. Certainly not from the SPL, SFA or old hun.
It might be possible to take new hun to court, but I suspect it would be lengthy, costly and limited chance of success.

Yes I sort of thought that compensation would be unlikely, it would be a real mess to try and unravel all of that, and as you say lengthy and costly...............Shame...

[green glory]

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14 titles would be stripped if it goes against them....However would the clubs who lost points to derhun during the seasons involved, or the teams knocked out of cups in all rounds by derhun, be entitled to compensation?

The money's long gone. I'll settle for the stripped titles accompanied by the sound of Huns and their foul children wailing like Gollum upon realising "the precious is lost"!

[StevieC]

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The money's long gone. I'll settle for the stripped titles accompanied by the sound of Huns and their foul children wailing like Gollum upon realising "the precious is lost"!

By "precious" do you mean one of their 5 stars?

[CropleyWasGod]

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The money's long gone. I'll settle for the stripped titles accompanied by the sound of Huns and their foul children wailing like Gollum upon realising "the precious is lost"!

Don't think so. Sevco were allowed an SFA licence on condition that they accept the findings of the SPL enquiry. So hitting them for money would be a fine outcome.