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  • Hertz do not exist anymore

    746 48.89%
  • Hertz survive but play in a lower league

    560 36.70%
  • Hertz survive and stay in SPL

    49 3.21%
  • Don't care about them

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    He's off then - now official and he's on a two year deal.

    Fee "believed "to be around £400,000.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20849001


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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    He's off then - now official and he's on a two year deal.

    Fee "believed "to be around £400,000.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20849001
    Good riddance to the wee fanny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It appears that someone is getting all their ducks in a row for an insolvency event.
    Please elaborate.

    I cant see the page.

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    Please elaborate.

    I cant see the page.
    Hearts' Ryan McGowan completes Shandong Luneng Taishan move
    By Brian McLauchlin
    BBC Scotland Defender Ryan McGowan has left Hearts to sign a two-year deal with Shandong Luneng Taishan.

    McGowan had been given permission to travel to China after a fee was agreed between the two clubs.

    And the 23-year-old spent five days with the club before returning to Edinburgh to finalise the deal.

    Hearts manager John McGlynn said earlier this month McGowan would be "a big miss", having played 25 times for the club this season.

    "It's disappointing to lose him but if good offers come in we need to accept them," added McGlynn.

    "He's been a massive influence both on and off the pitch. He's a really, really good character."

    The full-back attracted interest from a number of clubs in the Far East as well as England and Europe, with the fee from the Chinese club believed to be about £400,000.

    Since joining Hearts in 2006, McGowan has had loan spells with Partick Thistle and Ayr United.

    However, over the past two seasons he has established himself as a first-team regular at Hearts.

    He won his first Australian senior international cap in the friendly defeat to Scotland in August.

    McGowan's younger brother Dylan is still on Hearts' books.

    Follow Brian McLauchlin on Twitter.

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    If it's a 2 year deal that rules out the sevco theory. Good news all round particularly as I believe the £400k is a major exaggeration.

  7. #6756
    Webster linked with wolves.

    Did someone say fire sale???

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    McGowan was interviewed on Sportsound tonight. He said that if he didn't accept the Shandong offer, it was made pretty clear to him that he would hardly play again this season. Shoved out the door by the looks of it ha ha

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    Only 6 days till wages are due again. Can't see them making payroll if they have still not caught up on last months. Another SPL sanction on the way? Has to be points this time.

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    My guess is they mean "Hearts" in their current guise, ala "The Rangers".

    There will always be a "Hearts", even if they have to start from scratch, as there are too many supporters for them to simply disappear.

    I suppose the worst case from a Hearts point of view would be a NewCo starting at the bottom of the lowest division and ground sharing. Not too sure what the best case scenario for them is at the moment, a lot of issues that wont just go away.

    The final outcome will probably lie somewhere in betweeen, but as long as Vlad pulls the strings I suppose it can only be speculation.
    I am sure Third Lanark fans felt the same

  11. #6760
    I'm intrigued by this statement from McGowan about likely not playing for the rest of the season...

    Was this is a veiled threat to make sure he left? Or Hearts finally having to stop picking the players on bigger wages and presumably bigger bonuses and appearance fees?

    Interesting times...


    Do love his whole 'best time to leave' chat, yes it is, in that his new club will presumably pay him when they are supposed to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiberlin View Post
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    Pseudo victory?

    Can't think of any better victory than watching your Nemesis die before your eyes. Even better if you get to play an active role in their demise.
    you and I sing off the same song sheet

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    Chic Young says he us certain that McGowan will be at Ibrox in September. Similar to Richard Gough going to Spurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Hart RIP View Post
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    Chic Young says he us certain that McGowan will be at Ibrox in September. Similar to Richard Gough going to Spurs.
    Chic Young also said Rangers would never die and the game would collapse without The Rangers in the top league. He is an @ rse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Hart RIP View Post
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    Chic Young says he us certain that McGowan will be at Ibrox in September. Similar to Richard Gough going to Spurs.
    Chic Dung has consistently demonstrated he doesn't know the first thing about football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    I'm intrigued by this statement from McGowan about likely not playing for the rest of the season...

    Was this is a veiled threat to make sure he left? Or Hearts finally having to stop picking the players on bigger wages and presumably bigger bonuses and appearance fees?
    Interesting times...


    Do love his whole 'best time to leave' chat, yes it is, in that his new club will presumably pay him when they are supposed to!
    There was probably nothing veiled about the threat it would have been a straight choice either go to china or you will never play again this season

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    good news that Driver wants to stay until the end of the season. probably there best paid player, and there is not a lot of interest from clubs for his services. nae money to be made on him,if he's out of contract soon.

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    Slightly off topic but anyone want to guess if they will pay the players on Wed 16th?

    On one level they should have cash from derby and maybe a wee advance from Chinese club.

    On the other hand, Vlad has probably had his hand in the till again and the cupboard is bare.

    Key question for me is why would they go out of there way to scrape together enough pennies to pay the players when the best they can do is get embargo lifted but still only sign u21 paid less and only when a player leaves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Slightly off topic but anyone want to guess if they will pay the players on Wed 16th?

    On one level they should have cash from derby and maybe a wee advance from Chinese club.

    On the other hand, Vlad has probably had his hand in the till again and the cupboard is bare.

    Key question for me is why would they go out of there way to scrape together enough pennies to pay the players when the best they can do is get embargo lifted but still only sign u21 paid less and only when a player leaves?
    Don't think they will make January wages. Still not up to date on the bonus payments which suggests the cash is simply not there.

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    So.. We're a third of the way through the transfer window. Anyone else left yet?

    Or is this Hearts transfer window anticlimax number 5000?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    So.. We're a third of the way through the transfer window. Anyone else left yet?

    Or is this Hearts transfer window anticlimax number 5000?
    No news is good news, as far as being able to meet their wage bill goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    So.. We're a third of the way through the transfer window. Anyone else left yet?

    Or is this Hearts transfer window anticlimax number 5000?
    You can't move players under contract if there's no-one willing to take them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter View Post
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    You can't move players under contract if there's no-one willing to take them.
    We've always shifted the players we wanted rid off/could get money for pretty quickly. I remember Bamba being sold within hours of the New Year window opening - right before a derby.

    Why aren't they doing that? Surely someone wants Zaliukas, Webster, Driver et al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    We've always shifted the players we wanted rid off/could get money for pretty quickly. I remember Bamba being sold within hours of the New Year window opening - right before a derby.

    Why aren't they doing that? Surely someone wants Zaliukas, Webster, Driver et al.
    Oh people will want them, but the bottom line is they may not want to go.

    Why would a player on say £10k a week want to leave Hearts to earn £3k elsewhere?

    We have only got rid of players who wanted to go, plenty have simply sat their contracts out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    We've always shifted the players we wanted rid off/could get money for pretty quickly. I remember Bamba being sold within hours of the New Year window opening - right before a derby.

    Why aren't they doing that? Surely someone wants Zaliukas, Webster, Driver et al.
    Isn't the fact that Bamba was desperate to go a factor there? He'll have got himself a huge wage increase whereas anyone leaving Hearts will have to take a huge wage cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    We've always shifted the players we wanted rid off/could get money for pretty quickly. I remember Bamba being sold within hours of the New Year window opening - right before a derby.

    Why aren't they doing that? Surely someone wants Zaliukas, Webster, Driver et al.

    Not so sure about that, did John O'Neil not sit in the stand for months? on 3k per week

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    Isn't the fact that Bamba was desperate to go a factor there? He'll have got himself a huge wage increase whereas anyone leaving Hearts will have to take a huge wage cut.
    Absolutely correct
    The word at the time was he had been ' bending ears' for around six weeks to leave before the 'window'
    His agent had done the ground work with Leicester and given his contract was up at the end of the season Hibs ' cashed in ' when approached
    There was no illegal ' tapping up' involved I understand

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    Not so sure about that, did John O'Neil not sit in the stand for months? on 3k per week
    That was because it was after the window and one more game would have triggered a new contract.

    Think Mcamanus was the same.

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    The Yams legal action against transfer sanctions seems to have gone the same way as their cash! I still believe another 2 or 3 1st team players will go in this window & that remains my favoured option. I believe Vlad will go soon regardless & any transfer fees received will benefit him rather than Yams. In that case I want them weakened sooner rather than later. I don't think RM will be the only player forced out of PBS this window. Mind you it's hard to play with a For Sale sign dangling from your neck!

  30. #6779
    Webster
    Zaliukas
    Grainger
    McHattie
    Barr -
    Robinson
    Driver
    Novikovas
    Smith
    Carrick

    All contracts up in summer.

    You would think Zaliukas is probably their best asset now - if he stays fine - he will cost them wages but if he goes then yes they get money for him but they will miss him at the back and as captain.

    The others I would like them to loose would be Webster and Grainger. Grainger is out injured right now till end of the season so he has either played his last game for the club or may stay on if no one comes in for him - but that would mean giving him an extension if they could afford it.

    Webster being older won't move unless someone matches his wages but probably won't want to move if he has a family etc.
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    It's all gone very, very quiet.......................payday Wednesday though

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