Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[icelorrie]

we should try sort this out with are own scarves obv

[CropleyWasGod]

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What's the difference

Contributions to EBT's were legitimate. It was the way that RFC ran their scheme that got them into difficulties.

Double contracts, ie not disclosing all payments to players to the SPL, are not.

[DarrenSQH]

Alot of Paparazzi and media with both TV and Radio waiting at tynecastle this morning when i parked my car.

Always wish they would give me a wee interview on the situation.

[green glory]

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There is no reference in their accounts to EBT's.

However, it's the double contracts that I was asking about; that is a different thing.

If they were operating a similar scheme as the Huns then it's quite possible dual contracts were involved.

[MCC Hibs]

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Hearts set '£2m survival' target: Hearts supporters need to generate £2million to help the Edinburgh club surviv... http://bbc.in/WJyKqP

I'm sure the 400,000 Hearts fans can afford a fiver!

[Billy Whizz]

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If they were operating a similar scheme as the Huns then it's quite possible dual contracts were involved.

Is this the reason for the £1.7m HMRC claim?

[Betty Boop]

Lovin the avatars lol !

[silverhibee]

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Pile it on, pile it on

Match Fixing. Allegedly.

[hibs0666]

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why doesn't Mackay just sell his medals, or even some of them ? c'mon gary...do the right thing SELL !!!

Better still he could plunder some Nazi gold.

[green glory]

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Is this the reason for the £1.7m HMRC claim?

Not sure anyone really knows but I'm speculating lots.

[green glory]

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Better still he could plunder some Nazi gold.

You'd think he'd have plenty of that.

[CropleyWasGod]

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If they were operating a similar scheme as the Huns then it's quite possible dual contracts were involved.

But that's my point. There is no reference to EBT's in their accounts. If they had been operating them, there should have been, just as there was in the Rangers' accounts. In turn, the auditors would have made reference to any omission.

(disclaimer... that's not to say that EBT's weren't operated. I just think it hightly unlikely).

[Mon Dieu4]

sat here patiently waiting for the updates, have the countdown tune in my head haha

[lapsedhibee]

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There is no reference in their accounts to EBT's.

However, it's the double contracts that I was asking about; that is a different thing.

Is the hope/belief in this not based on Satchel's court claim that his contract was for £150k pa?

[silverhibee]

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Alot of Paparazzi and media with both TV and Radio waiting at tynecastle this morning when i parked my car.

Always wish they would give me a wee interview on the situation.

Ask them, tell them you are a supporter of the great HFC and you would like to put your we side of the story to them, ask them to blank out your face and dub your voice, due to fear of reprisals from mafia.

[Caversham Green]

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Is this the reason for the £1.7m HMRC claim?

That charge appears to be related to moving tax liabilities from the UK to Lithuania where the rates are lower. They appear to have done that by paying Hearts players through bogus loan deals with Kaunas.

Allegedly.

[green glory]

http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/...pbell-ogilvie/

From a while ago. Not saying he's definitely implicated but there is at least some suspicion.

Got to be worth looking at more closely I would have thought.

[Stevie Reid]

Sorry if already mentioned, but it now seems to be apparent that Hearts weren't paying tax (as well as their wages) earlier this year when they were on their cup run and signing Craig Beattie - when the SFA gave their verdict on Rangers' tax evasion they said that the only thing more serious would have been them being found guilty of match fixing. Now that day in May will never change, it will always be an horrendous one for us and a memory that they'll always have, and I certainly wouldn't want any retrospective awarding of trophies, nor do I see much point in them having it taken off them - however, they are still guilty of the same crime now, so should they be allowed to defend a tainted trophy? The SFA considered a Scottish Cup ban for Rangers, I don't see how Hearts can be allowed in this year's competition really.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/...pbell-ogilvie/

From a while ago. Not saying he's definitely implicated but there is at least some suspicion.

Got to be worth looking at more closely I would have thought.

That doesn't say EBTs were operated at Hearts. It talks about half the wages being paid from Lithuania, which was confirmed in the Evening News a couple of weeks ago.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

With all the shinnanigans have the Polis been paid I wonder... ? Or are they still up to their old tricks?

[Twa Cairpets]

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That doesn't say EBTs were operated at Hearts. It talks about half the wages being paid from Lithuania, which was confirmed in the Evening News a couple of weeks ago.

If the players are de facto employed in the UK, doesn't that mean that Hearts are acting as agents and are required to pay HMRC, regardless of where the salary comes from? Isn't it up to Hearts to get the money from Kaunas to cover the players tax liability, rather than have it essentially waived by Hector?

[Matty_Jack04]

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Hearts set '£2m survival' target: Hearts supporters need to generate £2million to help the Edinburgh club surviv... http://bbc.in/WJyKqP

Just read this on twitter also said 'by the summer to save club' is this an extra £2mill on top of the £1.7 for tax and the £450k winding up order?

[Mikey]

I reckon the two suitcases taken into the PBS were full of emptyness, but they'll have anything of value in them when they leave.

As was mentioned in the thread on the PM board he could be here for the big tax case. Other than him, their directors have been noticably absent.

[green glory]

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If the players are de facto employed in the UK, doesn't that mean that Hearts are acting as agents and are required to pay HMRC, regardless of where the salary comes from? Isn't it up to Hearts to get the money from Kaunas to cover the players tax liability, rather than have it essentially waived by Hector?

I'd agree with this. The mention in the RTC blog of the player who could only demonstrate a near minimum wage salary, but explained he was also paid from overseas should raise some suspicion. This very same incident was discussed on the Sevco thread here.

[Aldo]

Question is.... Is this a PR ploy.... Do we think they'll get off with it??

[stevenhibs]

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Question is.... Is this a PR ploy.... Do we think they'll get off with it??

That's what I reckon.

[silverhibee]

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I reckon the two suitcases taken into the PBS were full of emptyness, but they'll have anything of value in them when they leave.

As was mentioned in the thread on the PM board he could be here for the big tax case. Other than him, their directors have been noticably absent.

I did think about that to Mikey, they were either full of money when they arrived.

Or empty, and full of share/shop/ticket money when they leave.

Just listened to BBC Scotland there and it would appear that the suitcases were empty when they arrived and no doubt be full of anything that is of value(the SFA should ask for the cup back just in case it ends up in Lith land) when they leave.

BBC saying it is down to the fans to save there club.

[Golden Bear]

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Question is.... Is this a PR ploy.... Do we think they'll get off with it??

That crossed my mind as well.

[Jack Hackett]

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Question is.... Is this a PR ploy.... Do we think they'll get off with it??

It's been at the back of my mind that this is just another case of brinkmanship to boost attendance and the share issue. If it works, he's quids in as far as filling his pockets go. He's certainly got nowt to lose by it.

[McPhisto2]

So, no press statement from Hearts so far (thought there was mean't to be one at 9.30am?), no expression of whether Mad Vlad is going to stump up the for tax bill or not and nothing else from Hearts....so is it fair to say still that the 17th is still D-Day?