Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

[blackpoolhibs]

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wee ronnie corbett will help the grunts out

I will certainly light 4 candles for the jambos.

[matty_f]

Well, I've woken up this morning in a right good mood, and I can't think why.

[lord bunberry]

Salmomnd has to appear like he is doing something because he tried and failed to help out rangers. In reality he will do nothing that will help hearts but might gain him a few votes he isn't stupid

[WindyMiller]

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I will certainly light 4 candles for the jambos.

I can imagine them raising lots of "hose".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz2-ukrd2VQ

[jacomo]

The big difference between Yams and Huns is that Ibrox is a listed building and in decent nick. The PBS is a midden and there is nothing to stop it being sold for flats, flats, glorious flats.

Maybe the government could rush through some protection for Tynecastle to stop Romanov doing this and ensure any new-mini-Hunco could continue to play there on a rental basis? Even this seems unlikely, mind.

[JimBHibees]

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The Scottish Government are now making noises that they'll do everything in their powers to assist Hearts as it's in everyone's interest that they survive.

Ah well --------------------- if that's the case you can stick your SNP where the sun don't shine.

Nothing more than similar to Halls of Broxburn trying to facilitate and get agreement on longer payment plan type of thing. Given the current circumstances nothing more than that IMO.

[Phil MaGlass]

The sooner these balloons go to the wall the better, I will miss the derbies but its a small price to pay if we can grow on the back of this, 1 team in Edinburgh, wasnt that Wallace Mercers idea, its all coming back to me now, well thanks yams for almost fulfilling his dreams.A few weeks to go and I will be celebrating with a wee dram, Huns to the wall,all I need now is Independance....

[Speedway]

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They're pleading for yams to buy a ticket for their "friends" as well. There willbe a lot of empty seats if they do.

Fans dressed as seats, you might say.

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It just amuses me to use the same reverential tones as the dafties over on upthecreekback. Sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit, but it's still good fun.

[Stevie Reid]

The BEG team

[matty_f]

What's the situation with how this is handled by the SPL then? When Rangers were investigated for numerous failings, the charge against them for not paying VAT and PAYE was described as "almost as bad as match fixing", or words to that effect.

Now it has become clear that Hearts, too, have been using money that should have gone to the public to run their football club. That is to say, that money has been used to progress against Dundee United in the cup (I'm working on the assumption that they've not all of a sudden started paying the PAYE and VAT), and get league points as well against teams who are and have been spending appropriately.

Hearts signed Ryan Stevenson in the summer, the very fact that they did that removes any shred of sympathy one might have had (but, didn't!) for their plight. Unable to pay their players and on a stated aim to reduce costs, they brought a player in knowing that they couldn't afford him.

That's not bad luck or getting put at the whim of Vlad, that's sheer mismanagement.

The Yams fans are being asked to dig deep to give money to cover a VAT bill. Bear in mind that the VAT Hearts collect will largely have come from purchases made by Yams. That is to say that they've already given them this money, and they've peed it up the wall.

Any money ploughed into them at the moment is simply delaying the inevitable.

If the Yams had any sense, and wanted to put their money to use, they'd wait til the curtain comes down on their club and invest in whatever version of Hearts comes from the remains. That way their hard-earned (or state given, as is more likely the case with them) cash will actually be put to use, rather than flushed down the toilet.

[silverhibee]

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Paper talk for the easily offended.

We didn't have the money to bail out Hall's with the loss of 1700 jobs.

We're not going to bail out Hertz to keep a load of overpaid journeymen in employment.

That's it in a nutshell Windy.

They are F***ed, and wee Eck will have to find another club to support just like he had to find another brand of sausages to eat.

GGTTH

[green glory]

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What's the situation with how this is handled by the SPL then? When Rangers were investigated for numerous failings, the charge against them for not paying VAT and PAYE was described as "almost as bad as match fixing", or words to that effect.

Now it has become clear that Hearts, too, have been using money that should have gone to the public to run their football club. That is to say, that money has been used to progress against Dundee United in the cup (I'm working on the assumption that they've not all of a sudden started paying the PAYE and VAT), and get league points as well against teams who are and have been spending appropriately.

Hearts signed Ryan Stevenson in the summer, the very fact that they did that removes any shred of sympathy one might have had (but, didn't!) for their plight. Unable to pay their players and on a stated aim to reduce costs, they brought a player in knowing that they couldn't afford him.

That's not bad luck or getting put at the whim of Vlad, that's sheer mismanagement.

The Yams fans are being asked to dig deep to give money to cover a VAT bill. Bear in mind that the VAT Hearts collect will largely have come from purchases made by Yams. That is to say that they've already given them this money, and they've peed it up the wall.

Any money ploughed into them at the moment is simply delaying the inevitable.

If the Yams had any sense, and wanted to put their money to use, they'd wait til the curtain comes down on their club and invest in whatever version of Hearts comes from the remains. That way their hard-earned (or state given, as is more likely the case with them) cash will actually be put to use, rather than flushed down the toilet.

100% correct. In principle there's no difference with the Rangers issue. If they renaged on their payment plan with HMRC it's the same crime, and bearing in mind Campbell Ogilvie reputedly brought the same EBT scheme to Hearts as was used at Rangers.

[Aldo]

I have Yam friends (and yes I have friends) and while most of them are spot on one or 2 still think they will survive and the Mad one will pop up with the dosh.

They also believe that it's a conspiracy against them and that Hearts should take legal advice regarding what is being done to them.

I mentioned the share issue and the HMRC bill being the same as share issue but they said it was a total coincidence and that their money is safe and is a good investment.

I suggested that their money would be safer if they threw it off the Scott monument.

Deluded dafties

[Steve20]

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I have Yam friends (and yes I have friends) and while most of them are spot on one or 2 still think they will survive and the Mad one will pop up with the dosh.

They also believe that it's a conspiracy against them and that Hearts should take legal advice regarding what is being done to them.

I mentioned the share issue and the HMRC bill being the same as share issue but they said it was a total coincidence and that their money is safe and is a good investment.

I suggested that their money would be safer if they threw it off the Scott monument.

Deluded dafties

I reckon Romanov will come up with the dosh, if the fans don't raise enough money. Might not save them long term, but will keep them going for now.

[jacomo]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...3-5m-1-2618700

Missed this story in all the excitement yesterday.

If this is true, Hearts are planning to return to a financial model much the same as the one before Vlad took charge (if they survive that long, of course). This would confirm that the last seven years have been a crazy, unsustainable adventure which, at best, have left Hearts facing all the same issues that the Pie Man was confronting back in 2005: a huge debt and a stadium that's not "fit for purpose".

That's the best possible outcome from all this.

[euansdad]

You reap what you sew. No conspiracies, this is of their own making

[Thecat23]

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I have Yam friends (and yes I have friends) and while most of them are spot on one or 2 still think they will survive and the Mad one will pop up with the dosh.

They also believe that it's a conspiracy against them and that Hearts should take legal advice regarding what is being done to them.

I mentioned the share issue and the HMRC bill being the same as share issue but they said it was a total coincidence and that their money is safe and is a good investment.

I suggested that their money would be safer if they threw it off the Scott monument.

Deluded dafties

There is defo a few Yams out there who think Vlad is STILL the man and that he is going to save the club blah, blah, blah. They are the ones who really are deluded and not realising the club is is getting dropped faster than Jimmy Saville's shellsuit at a 14th b'day party.

[jacomo]

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I have Yam friends (and yes I have friends) and while most of them are spot on one or 2 still think they will survive and the Mad one will pop up with the dosh.

They also believe that it's a conspiracy against them and that Hearts should take legal advice regarding what is being done to them.

I mentioned the share issue and the HMRC bill being the same as share issue but they said it was a total coincidence and that their money is safe and is a good investment.

I suggested that their money would be safer if they threw it off the Scott monument.

Deluded dafties

If people really are that stupid then there is nothing you can do.

Bye bye HMFC. Nearly 140 years of history is about to come to a shuddering halt. Whether or not a new Yamco is established to start again is down to the fans but the club as it stands looks finished.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Shaun Lawson step into the breech (on the IMoan and jeez are attachments
A nightmare hopefully this works)!

http://www.hibs.net/asset.php?fid=76...8&d=1335560147

[Aldo]

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If people really are that stupid then there is nothing you can do.

Bye bye HMFC. Nearly 140 years of history is about to come to a shuddering halt. Whether or not a new Yamco is established to start again is down to the fans but the club as it stands looks finished.

Like I say their heads are up their ar$es. They are putting about a grand into it and reckon the return will be worth it in the LONG run. I said that if they become no more then their shares aren't worth the paper they're written on and the reply to that was

"Don't be so ****ing stupid, you've not got a clue. We are on the up and will build on the 5-1, new stadium on the way and better players will follow"

I expected a stupid reply but that was a peach.

[jacomo]

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Shaun Lawson step into the breech (on the IMoan and jeez are attachments
A nightmare hopefully this works)!

http://www.hibs.net/asset.php?fid=76...8&d=1335560147

er, nope! Can you try again?

[Thecat23]

That boy Shaun Lawson is a roaster. There was another poster i used to see that would post on anything that was to do with us. I.J is his username I think. You should see some of his posts. Some of the worst one liners imaginable trying to have a dig while acting like he's a comedian. I know a guy who knows him and he says he's an embarrassment and looks like one of those guys who would sit on the internet playing Warcraft for 23 hours a day

[jacomo]

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Like I say their heads are up their ar$es. They are putting about a grand into it and reckon the return will be worth it in the LONG run. I said that if they become no more then their shares aren't worth the paper they're written on and the reply to that was

"Don't be so ****ing stupid, you've not got a clue. We are on the up and will build on the 5-1, new stadium on the way and better players will follow"

I expected a stupid reply but that was a peach.

People have been sectioned for less.

[Thecat23]

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People have been sectioned for less.

Was that a real quote? If so that's magic hahaha

[alexedwards]

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I reckon Romanov will come up with the dosh, if the fans don't raise enough money. Might not save them long term, but will keep them going for now.

There is NO DOUBT that Romanov will pay the 450k and funds will be there to keep them going to season-end at which point they will re-group.

[McPhisto2]

....allegedly according to keechback. Apparently he thinks administration is avoidable.....what's the chances he has a large black bag with him? All hearsay of course.....

[H1bs6H3arts2 FC]

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Luke Shanley‏@LukeShanley

I also understand Hearts manager John McGlynn has also not been paid and that the SPL has been informed verbally.

Oooops beaten to it. sorry Derek0762

I've not posted for a while on this Forum but have been an avid reader - I just feel i need to part of this thread by saying 'GET IT RIGHT ROOD YA'S YAMBOLINOS' - thank you! :)

[greenlex]

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The BEG team

love it. im nicking this.

[CropleyWasGod]

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....allegedly according to keechback. Apparently he thinks administration is avoidable.....what's the chances he has a large black bag with him? All hearsay of course.....

Administration is indeed avoidable. If the winding-up petition succeeds, it is straight to liquidation, do not pass Go, do not collect etc etc...

[Stevie Reid]

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love it. im nicking this.