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[Hibbyradge]

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If he does sign he is no spring chicken. Will take him a few weeks to get match sharp and the 3rd would probably be too early for him. I'm not gonna spend the next two months worrying about that clown of a man.

Spot on.

He won't have played any type of competitive football at all for 8 months.

His lack match fitness and sharpness means the poor chap will be at risk of getting hurt.

[Hibbyradge]

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But they're already prevented from signing anyone unless they were a free agent two months ago - which effectively is anyone that would be of much use to them before the 23 December. Another club defaulting in December would be prevented from signing anyone during the January window - a much more severe penalty despite only having defaulted once. Justice has to be seen to be done and HoMFC are not seen to have suffered anything at all with this sanction. A suspended points deduction would put them on notice for the future and would also be a visible penalty - that's particularly important in a competitive environment like a football league. If they choose to add to their financial obligations under that notice then they must suffer the consequences if they can't meet those obligations - that should be HoMFC's concern, not the SPL's.

My point about the speeding fine was that the motorist suffers a real, immediate punishment as well as the three points for future consideration, I'm not arguing for a fine in the case of HoMFC because I think it would be counter-productive.

HoMFC have broken the rules twice in succession and have suffered no tangible punishment for it - if they do it again in January/February they might get a signing embargo until June, that must worry them.

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Your point about missing a payment in December is an interesting one, but I would hope the SPL would ensure that the effect of their sanctions were consistent and they wouldn't impose an embargo for a first offence in January.

I think Doncaster's quote below gives reassurance that a first offence committed in December wouldn't lead to a highly punitive January embargo.

“I think there is a meaningful sanction there,” Doncaster said. “This is a second offence. The first offence, we believe, warranted a warning and a reprimand. We think a 60-day registration embargo is the appropriate sanction and we hope very much that we won’t be here again. [But] we didn’t receive any guarantees that there wouldn’t be a repeat. Ultimately we can only judge any breach of the rules as and when it arises – look at the circumstances, hear what the club has to say, and then form a view.

“We considered a whole range of different possibilities. We felt a sporting penalty was required because of the sporting advantage that had been obtained by Hearts by not having to pay players and coaches on time, and the appropriate sporting penalty we believed was a player registration embargo for 60 days.”

That also suggests that there was no embargo in place until this month.

You will note, of course, that Hearts have given no guarantees about future breaches.

[The Green Goblin]

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Someone who actually pays heed to what Neil Doncaster says, that's a first

No fixed tariff is a fudged cop out.

What is it with everyone today. Hearts appear to have been trading insolvently for several months now, Vlad has regularly aimed abuse at the authorities, 7-8 months out of the last 12 months Hearts wages have been paid late and now everyone is wanting them to go easy on Hearts. I don't get it.

My guess (and that's all it is) would be that with the fall of Sevco, the authorities are afraid that the rest of the dominoes will start toppling and they see this as a situation where they have to try and avoid "helping" that to happen.

[truehibernian]

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My guess (and that's all it is) would be that with the fall of Sevco, the authorities are afraid that the rest of the dominoes will start toppling and they see this as a situation where they have to try and avoid "helping" that to happen.

I'm not so sure to be honest. Of course they will be mindful of the shambolic way they handled the Rangers situation and they definitely won't want similar media fallout if Hearts continue to default - however the cynic in me sees this as the perfect agenda for Doncaster and Regan to stimulate their SPL2 idea - what better way to promote two divisions by having (potentially) two top sides in The Rangers and The Hearts in the second tier fighting it out :-)

They'll try to be fair and proportionate but I wouldn't guarantee they will continue in this vain. After all their SFL counterparts are quite swift and brutal when it comes to meating out points deductions for defaulting sides.

[#FromTheCapital]

Barry Anderson has tweeted to say that hearts will be handing out brochures to all fans attending the ross county game which will outline a plan to get more cash for the club.

I managed to get a sneak preview of the front cover.....

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Barry Anderson has tweeted to say that hearts will be handing out brochures to all fans attending the ross county game which will outline a plan to get more cash for the club.

All of the 400,000 are to take out Wonga loans for Christmas. Wonga will then pass on 10% of their profits.

[green glory]

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All of the 400,000 are to take out Wonga loans for Christmas. Wonga will then pass on 10% of their profits.

Things looking increasingly desperate for Maroonsevco.

[flash]

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Barry Anderson has tweeted to say that hearts will be handing out brochures to all fans attending the ross county game which will outline a plan to get more cash for the club.

I managed to get a sneak preview of the front cover.....

So Hertz, with their multi millionaire owner, are going cap in hand to the ordinary punters in the middle of the worst recession in a century.

[#FromTheCapital]

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So Hertz, with their multi millionaire owner, are going cap in hand to the ordinary punters in the middle of the worst recession in a century.

Looks like their plan will be unveiled in this brochure at the weekend. Wonder where they're getting the money to print these brochures

[Gatecrasher]

Theres something in the EEN asking their fans for £1m

I only seen the headline though

[lord bunberry]

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Theres something in the EEN asking their fans for £1m

I only seen the headline though

That's only £2.50 each a small price to pay to save your club

[Hibbyradge]

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-ev...ture-1-2597886

[poolman]

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Theres something in the EEN asking their fans for £1m

I only seen the headline though

Is it something to do with this


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...rating-1398243

EDit : Cap in hand

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-ev...ture-1-2597886

[poolman]

[O'Rourke3]

So a whip round?

[Bighoose]

Going by their history, they will just be copying our "buy a brick" option. Prob charging £100 a time....

[Peevemor]

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Going by their history, they will just be copying our "buy a brick" option. Prob charging £100 a time....

Yeah but with them you get to take it home.

[Mikey]

Any Yam that puts money into the club while Romanov is still the owner needs their head checked.

[Seveno]

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Any Yam that puts money into the club while Romanov is still the owner needs their head checked.

If all the Yams that need their heads checked put money into the club then they will do rather nicely !

[matty_f]

It's a patch-up job at best. Even if they raise £1m, that won't last long at all and then what?

[#FromTheCapital]

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Any Yam that puts money into the club while Romanov is still the owner needs their head checked.

Exactly. No way any sensible person would give that 2 bit crook any money whatsoever, although they jambos aren't the most sensible bunch. Whos to say where it will end up, especially if theres other parts of his empire that also need funding

[HibbySpurs]

These "terrified of Skacel" posts on this thread are really beggining to annoy me.... He's one effing man and yes he's been a thorn in our side for so long but this is what's wrong with the Hibs mentality at times.... Your all petrified of one player and it seeps through to the whole club, get over it FFS guys. Has beens have been but that's all he is now. We are a much better team now and players like Deegan will be able to cope with this clown far better than others have in recent times....

Stop living in fear of the fuds from across the city and effing believe that we will effing gub them on the 3rd with or without Skacel......

This fear of Hearts & certain Hearts players has got to stop if we as a club are to establish ourselves as the dominant force in Edinburgh football once more. It begins with us in believing that our manager and the team he puts on the park are better than those ****bags, thats what they believe even when they know their team is worse.

Rant Over..... I think the punishment fits the crime by the way, they'll miss more payments and the punishments will be harsher and harsher.

[matty_f]

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These "terrified of Skacel" posts on this thread are really beggining to annoy me.... He's one effing man and yes he's been a thorn in our side for so long but this is what's wrong with the Hibs mentality at times.... Your all petrified of one player and it seeps through to the whole club, get over it FFS guys. Has beens have been but that's all he is now. We are a much better team now and players like Deegan will be able to cope with this clown far better than others have in recent times....

Stop living in fear of the fuds from across the city and effing believe that we will effing gub them on the 3rd with or without Skacel......

This fear of Hearts & certain Hearts players has got to stop if we as a club are to establish ourselves as the dominant force in Edinburgh football once more. It begins with us in believing that our manager and the team he puts on the park are better than those ****bags, thats what they believe even when they know their team is worse.

Rant Over..... I think the punishment fits the crime by the way, they'll miss more payments and the punishments will be harsher and harsher.

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[RyeSloan]

Personally I don't see how a transfer embargo during the period where the transfer window is shut is any sort of 'sporting penalty'....excluding satchel who they could have signed in the summer but didn't what penalty are Hearts suffering due to this 'embargo'? None.

The punishment should surely have included an incentive not to do it again...I simply don't see that.

That said it's clear now that Hearts are on the home stretch of the Romanov adventure, when it comes down to begging fans to finance a continuing shortfall in finances then the writing is truely on the wall. The prospect of them raising an extra £1m from c12k supporters is fanciful to say the least...look at the huge success of the Hearts fighting fund or whatever it was called the last time they were pitching tents shows that even in times of crisis raising that sort of money is extremely difficult.

I take no joy from their troubles (aye right!) but will merely state that what goes around comes around and Hearts have been asking for it for a long long time...all things being equal that should mean that when the sheeeit does hit the fan it will do so in a spectacular and unstopable way.

[poolman]

They hope to go public in the next few days on a “significant revenue generating exercise” that could be worth “seven figures” annually. Sources claim the success of the scheme will be crucial to the direction the club takes in forthcoming seasons.


ANNUALLY

So they're hoping the deluded pink ones are gonna stump up that amount each year to keep them going

[God Petrie]

Hahahahaha they only need £2.50 from each fan.

This can't really be described as anything other than begging no matter how Barry Anderson and Hertz try to spin it. What an absolute shambles of a club.

[green glory]

I don't know why all proceeds from poppy sales aren't automatically given to HOMFC. After all they did win every conflict from the Peloponesian War to the recent Libyan conflict without even making a substitution. The mere spectre of Gary Mackay with his fearsome haul of medals turning his playing prowess against the Soviet Union was enough to prevent the Cold War becoming hot.

It's time this nation expressed it's gratitude.

[macca70]

The situation must be serious if the mad man is coming over for a game against Ross County.

I would expect a few rants in the media whilst he's here. Probably stating how the SFA are chasing him out of Scotland.

How can they possibly be trying to resign Skatcel at a time when they are completely skint and now begging to the fans for cash. How much did they raise from 'Save our Hearts'? About £200k max

After the rangers debacle I thought the SFA/SPL were going to be clamping down on the blatant overspending and complete irresponsible way in which clubs were run.

Guaranteed, when they are playing in Div 3 against Sevco, everyone will be asking why was nothing done by the authorities earlier to stop them being run so irresponsibly

[Saorsa]

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http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-ev...ture-1-2597886

I wonder if any of these plums will donate

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Yams will be helpIng to shelter from economic difficulties by all 400k standing in a line and handing £1 coins along a chain into the players wages fund ;)

http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...ture-1-2597886