Hibs transfer rumours

[DaveF]

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I think O'Connor, Osbourne, Doherty and Soares would walk into the current team.

Sadly, I agree.

We appear to be weaker now than we were last season.

Still there is time to change that......

[Hibstrooper]

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I think O'Connor, Osbourne, Doherty and Soares would walk into the current team.

They'd walk into the team but they'd also probably spend the next 90 minutes still just walking.

None of them, with the exception of O'Connor, showed any desire or passion during their time with the club. Going by reports on the tour and how Fenlon is trying to progress the team it least appears as is if we are going to have 11 players fighting for each other and the jersey on the pitch next season. That to me is a step in the right direction.

[LeighLoyal]

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Any irons in the fire? looking through the starting 11 from tuesday night and the reality that the season starts a week on saturday (sunday for us) I am now really worried about our lack of transfer activity. Even if we went on a mass signing spree now the team is never going to be ready in time for Tannadice or the smellies the week after. Im aware of the financial challenges at the moment and the chicken and egg season ticket sales v player signings but the squad is thread bare. I have sat back while listening to the agents and players are all on holiday and chairman asks fans to dig deep statements but still we have shown no sign of intent or any evidence to support any grounds for optimism for the coming season. Mcpake and Griffiths were part of the shambles that very nearly took us down last year and whilst im happy to see them back again the rest of the sqaud looks even worse than the one that humilated us at Hampden. I still think we need at least 3 or 4 players which I dont see happening. Time after time I see other clubs like Aberdeen with lower home gates ,less season ticket holders, crap ground,no training centre,larger debt sign players like Johnny Hayes in front of us not to mention the names being mentioned with servco and our inabilty to lure guys like Jim Goodwin from the mighty St. Mirren. Im really not looking forward to watching the likes of St. Johnstone and Inverness tearing us a new one every other week at Easter road again. How can a seasoned pro like Maybury who must have been on lunching vouchers with Saints play in 5 pre season games and still not be offered a deal? If we have other areas of the team that need strenthening before right back tell Maybury to do one and play whoever is going to be playing there. As a club we must surely get to a point where we gamble a little bit on success . Show a wee bit ambition even in the current football and global climate. I honestly think the fans ambition now matches that of the clubs. Lets plod along and try and get in the top 6. Lets turn up against Hearts in hope rather than expectation. Dont forget we do this on the back of some of the most expensive season ticket prices in the country. Hibernian a team in transition since 1875 !

Hibernian, a team gladly paying taxes and registering players lawfully, since 1875.


Just have to hope irons are in the fire. Window has plenty time to go.

[Pretty Boy]

I hope there will be a couple more but we have to realistically look at the financial uncertainty still surrounding Scottish football.

If there are then great, if not then we'll get a chance to see the young lads get a shot and we just need to get the heads down and get on with it.

[PeterboroHibee]

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I think O'Connor, Osbourne, Doherty and Soares would walk into the current team.

O'Connor would but if we want to change the ethos of the club, we couldnt really keep him. Doherty was a good player, but a tit who didnt want to stay. Weve got a RB whos played his whole career in the SPL, good enough for me.

Osbourne clearly had lots of ability, but just couldnt really ever take a hold of games. He also awful when it came to any sort of defensive work, and Im not really sorry to see him leave. And Soares is a joke of a footballer, did he ever try during his time at Hibs?

[Ray_]

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You had better be.



So what has changed over the last 40+ years apart from a couple of good seasons?



So be it.

With the new training centre, our expenditure has gone up & there is far more competition these days to attract people to spend their money away from football! And the better be is pretty obvious, as a business Hibs are shipping custom & it will continue to happen unless something drastic changes with the performances.

[Andy74]

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They'd walk into the team but they'd also probably spend the next 90 minutes still just walking.

None of them, with the exception of O'Connor, showed any desire or passion during their time with the club. Going by reports on the tour and how Fenlon is trying to progress the team it least appears as is if we are going to have 11 players fighting for each other and the jersey on the pitch next season. That to me is a step in the right direction.

I totally agree with what Felnon is trying to do in that respect but the stark fact right now is, no matter what you thought about the names above, they are better than what we have left with right now.

The signings we have made have been good, they would have been better if they had complemented what we had before and not just trying to make up a big gap.

At the moment what we are left with is some okay players we have brought in, alongside a collection of players who couldn't get games last year ahead of the ones we have got rid of.

I'd expected a few more, even with the Rangers thing.

[Lucius Apuleius]

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With the new training centre, our expenditure has gone up & there is far more competition these days to attract people to spend their money away from football! And the better be is pretty obvious, as a business Hibs are shipping custom & it will continue to happen unless something drastic changes with the performances.

You have emboldened the bit below so i presume the above was in the main referring to it? If so, the answer was to the statement that the team is *****. It is, and apart from a few seasons, always has been. We live within our means, same as we do domestically (at least I do and I can only speak for myself). The training centre was in my opinion, along with the new East, necessary expenditures. I am still of the opinion had it not been for the downturn in the economy that they would have paid off by now. As I have said before, not everything is black and white. the numbers missing are not all missing because the team is *****. A lot of people, especially married men just cannot justify the money on any entertainment never mind **** entertainment. These are the people we need as they are the one who bring the next generation.

So what has changed over the last 40+ years apart from a couple of good seasons?

[S4uzee]

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Any irons in the fire? looking through the starting 11 from tuesday night and the reality that the season starts a week on saturday (sunday for us) I am now really worried about our lack of transfer activity. Even if we went on a mass signing spree now the team is never going to be ready in time for Tannadice or the smellies the week after. Im aware of the financial challenges at the moment and the chicken and egg season ticket sales v player signings but the squad is thread bare. I have sat back while listening to the agents and players are all on holiday and chairman asks fans to dig deep statements but still we have shown no sign of intent or any evidence to support any grounds for optimism for the coming season. Mcpake and Griffiths were part of the shambles that very nearly took us down last year and whilst im happy to see them back again the rest of the sqaud looks even worse than the one that humilated us at Hampden. I still think we need at least 3 or 4 players which I dont see happening. Time after time I see other clubs like Aberdeen with lower home gates ,less season ticket holders, crap ground,no training centre,larger debt sign players like Johnny Hayes in front of us not to mention the names being mentioned with servco and our inabilty to lure guys like Jim Goodwin from the mighty St. Mirren. Im really not looking forward to watching the likes of St. Johnstone and Inverness tearing us a new one every other week at Easter road again. How can a seasoned pro like Maybury who must have been on lunching vouchers with Saints play in 5 pre season games and still not be offered a deal? If we have other areas of the team that need strenthening before right back tell Maybury to do one and play whoever is going to be playing there. As a club we must surely get to a point where we gamble a little bit on success . Show a wee bit ambition even in the current football and global climate. I honestly think the fans ambition now matches that of the clubs. Lets plod along and try and get in the top 6. Lets turn up against Hearts in hope rather than expectation. Dont forget we do this on the back of some of the most expensive season ticket prices in the country. Hibernian a team in transition since 1875 !

Fantastic post, if only you were a member of the board

[silverhibee]

It looks like the manager wants to bring in Maybury to the club, but at this moment in time i just don't think the funds are there to sign him, i think it is as simple as that, if we can off load a player then it free's up a wage that could be offered to Maybury, folk who are saying we need at least 4 more players in the team(yes they are right) it is not going to happen, where does the money come from, our owner has said he won't be putting in any more money in to the team unless things get really bad(avoiding relegation just there i thought was really bad) but obviously not bad enough, we don't have any players that we can sell that will bring in a big fee that may help the manager strengthen the squad, it looks like that a few of the young ones will get a chance when the season starts and i don't have a problem with that if they are good enough, but i have a worry about the young lads too, first few games are not easy for us and i don't want the younger lads having there confidence dented so early in to the season if we don't do well in our first few games, that is the worry for me.

So yeah we could see another player come in and it will more than likely be Maybury, but only if the manager can move a player on, if that happens then that will be our lot for the season. imo.

[SteveHFC]

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It looks like the manager wants to bring in Maybury to the club, but at this moment in time i just don't think the funds are there to sign him.0

So yeah we could see another player come in and it will more than likely be Maybury, but only if the manager can move a player on, if that happens then that will be our lot for the season. imo.

[LeighLoyal]

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It looks like the manager wants to bring in Maybury to the club, but at this moment in time i just don't think the funds are there to sign him, i think it is as simple as that, if we can off load a player then it free's up a wage that could be offered to Maybury, folk who are saying we need at least 4 more players in the team(yes they are right) it is not going to happen, where does the money come from, our owner has said he won't be putting in any more money in to the team unless things get really bad(avoiding relegation just there i thought was really bad) but obviously not bad enough, we don't have any players that we can sell that will bring in a big fee that may help the manager strengthen the squad, it looks like that a few of the young ones will get a chance when the season starts and i don't have a problem with that if they are good enough, but i have a worry about the young lads too, first few games are not easy for us and i don't want the younger lads having there confidence dented so early in to the season if we don't do well in our first few games, that is the worry for me.

So yeah we could see another player come in and it will more than likely be Maybury, but only if the manager can move a player on, if that happens then that will be our lot for the season. imo.

Surely Osbourne has to be replaced? His salary is off the wage bill and we got in a fee. If we don't replace Osbourne with somebody similar I see us getting overrun every week, we also let go Jimmy Scott. Sky have not said they won't honour the contract.

[renato]

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I totally agree with what Felnon is trying to do in that respect but the stark fact right now is, no matter what you thought about the names above, they are better than what we have left with right now.

The signings we have made have been good, they would have been better if they had complemented what we had before and not just trying to make up a big gap.

At the moment what we are left with is some okay players we have brought in, alongside a collection of players who couldn't get games last year ahead of the ones we have got rid of.

I'd expected a few more, even with the Rangers thing.

Agree with all that. Still think we're short of a physical forward, pacey winger and dominant central midfielder and believe that, until we get these positions adequately filled, we're at best on a par with last season's team.

We all talked about the importance of having the bulk of signings in before pre season, especially given the early fixtures, and, whilst I understand the extent of the financial impact as a result of zombie huns, I'm still a bit worried that we're going to get a few beatings early on in the season.

Desparately hope I'm wrong as that's the last thing we, Fenlon and the club needs.

[IWasThere2016]

Ever decreasing circles.. And another relegation battle beckons!

[JohnStephens91]

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It looks like the manager wants to bring in Maybury to the club, but at this moment in time i just don't think the funds are there to sign him, i think it is as simple as that, if we can off load a player then it free's up a wage that could be offered to Maybury, folk who are saying we need at least 4 more players in the team(yes they are right) it is not going to happen, where does the money come from, our owner has said he won't be putting in any more money in to the team unless things get really bad(avoiding relegation just there i thought was really bad) but obviously not bad enough, we don't have any players that we can sell that will bring in a big fee that may help the manager strengthen the squad, it looks like that a few of the young ones will get a chance when the season starts and i don't have a problem with that if they are good enough, but i have a worry about the young lads too, first few games are not easy for us and i don't want the younger lads having there confidence dented so early in to the season if we don't do well in our first few games, that is the worry for me.

So yeah we could see another player come in and it will more than likely be Maybury, but only if the manager can move a player on, if that happens then that will be our lot for the season. imo.

Excuse me while I fetch your noose sir.

We need to bring the youngsters through asap, if we don't then we need to spend to fill in huge gaps then they get frozen out. The best lessons for them would be in tougher games, these young players look the part and hate Hearts. Look at McGowan for the Yams he had a great season with them last season and not even in his correct position, he was pretty much thrown headfirst into the deep end and didn't sink, I'm sure Caldwell, Handling and Stanton are able to do this as well.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Did we not blow Motherwell out the water with the contract offer for Clancy?

People need to realise that we have had the 4th/5th highest budget in the SPL for the last 5+ years, its been the managerial merry go round that has been the problem, not the wages we are offering compared to SPL competitors.

[Golden Bear]

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Did we not blow Motherwell out the water with the contract offer for Clancy?

People need to realise that we have had the 4th/5th highest budget in the SPL for the last 5+ years, its been the managerial merry go round that has been the problem, not the wages we are offering compared to SPL competitors.

Only part of the problem imo.

Under performing players with a couldn't care less attitude is/was the route of the problem.

[dmc1875]

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Did we not blow Motherwell out the water with the contract offer for Clancy?

People need to realise that we have had the 4th/5th highest budget in the SPL for the last 5+ years, its been the managerial merry go round that has been the problem, not the wages we are offering compared to SPL competitors.

It's the fact that we are viewed as 'unstable' because we haven't had a settled backroom staff/management team for years.


I know we don't have any money... but the money that we have saved on wages by getting rid of 15 odd players SURELY we can sign 4 or 5. We will still have saved a hell of a lot of cash.. Players like O'Connor and Stack wouldn't have been on £1k a week and we must have paid a portion of the likes of Soares' £8k a week wages (I'm guessing £2k)

[silverhibee]

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Surely Osbourne has to be replaced? His salary is off the wage bill and we got in a fee. If we don't replace Osbourne with somebody similar I see us getting overrun every week, we also let go Jimmy Scott. Sky have not said they won't honour the contract.

I doubt Fenlon will see anything from the fee from Osbourne, his wages that were freed up maybe went towards getting Sparky in on loan again, .

And we let Scott go on loan, we will still be paying a part of his wages while he is on a contract with Hibs.

Season starts for us next Sunday, are we ready to go as a team, i don't think so.

[dmc1875]

Quote from Steve Lomas today re tv deal:

"Understandably, it's making a lot of chairmen nervous about bringing in extra players and we're no different. We've probably got one of the smallest budgets in the SPL and, at the moment, the chairman's had to put the pause button on.
"I've worked with Sky and I'd like to think they'll stand by Scottish football in its time of need and it will allow me then to bring in four or five players which I think would make us very competitive."


So.... if they have one of the smallest budgets in the SPL and they can bring in 'four or five' players if the tv deal stays the same (which is looking likely now) SURELY we have to be in the same boat?? If not...

PETRIE!!! GET YER FINGER OOT!

[goosefat]

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Quote from Steve Lomas today re tv deal:

"Understandably, it's making a lot of chairmen nervous about bringing in extra players and we're no different. We've probably got one of the smallest budgets in the SPL and, at the moment, the chairman's had to put the pause button on.
"I've worked with Sky and I'd like to think they'll stand by Scottish football in its time of need and it will allow me then to bring in four or five players which I think would make us very competitive."


So.... if they have one of the smallest budgets in the SPL and they can bring in 'four or five' players if the tv deal stays the same (which is looking likely now) SURELY we have to be in the same boat?? If not...

PETRIE!!! GET YER FINGER OOT!

I’m sure Hibs could comfortably bring in at least another 4 or 5 players from wherever and pay them peanuts. Quantity is not really the issue, its making sure that we get the balance right and get the best we can afford without having a load of other deadwood to whom we have to pay wages for either sitting on the bench or doing nothing much for us on the park. Remember the January transfer window when CC brought in a substantial amount of players? 90% of that exercise was a total waste of time and, more importantly, money.

It seems to me that this time there has at least been a little more thought put into who we have purchased so far. I'd rather have 2 or 3 less players knowing that the ones that we do have (and may or may not be paying a little more than usual to keep) are of a half-decent quality. Of course, only time will tell but I do think a scattergun approach will just leave us paying wages for players we don't want in 6 months time and can't get rid of.

[HibsMax]

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They'd walk into the team but they'd also probably spend the next 90 minutes still just walking.

None of them, with the exception of O'Connor, showed any desire or passion during their time with the club. Going by reports on the tour and how Fenlon is trying to progress the team it least appears as is if we are going to have 11 players fighting for each other and the jersey on the pitch next season. That to me is a step in the right direction.

THIS.

There is this feeling that we can only improve the team by buying new players. That could be true but you can also weaken the team with the wrong signings.

I think it's been obvious from the last few years that there has been a problem at the core of Hibs. If Fenlon is addressing that, successfully, then perhaps the future is brighter? I would be happy to have gotten rid of the cancer that has been plaguing us.

[Hibstrooper]

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THIS.

There is this feeling that we can only improve the team by buying new players. That could be true but you can also weaken the team with the wrong signings.

I think it's been obvious from the last few years that there has been a problem at the core of Hibs. If Fenlon is addressing that, successfully, then perhaps the future is brighter? I would be happy to have gotten rid of the cancer that has been plaguing us.

Exactly. How many of the players listed earlier could have probably walked into most teams in the league if it was all about skill and ability, the same teams that we were regularly rolling over too because we weren't prepared to roll up our sleeves.

I'm not saying we are world beaters, far from it, however I think this team will finish higher than last seasons.

[muirhousehibby]

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Exactly. How many of the players listed earlier could have probably walked into most teams in the league if it was all about skill and ability, the same teams that we were regularly rolling over too because we weren't prepared to roll up our sleeves.

I'm not saying we are world beaters, far from it, however I think this team will finish higher than last seasons.

A good start would be by winning more home games than we did last season (4 wins), home games have been our downfall last few seasons. Even in the scottish cup run we only played once at home and beat kille.

[SMAXXA]

So any actual transfer romours then?

[Northfield Hibby]

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THIS.

There is this feeling that we can only improve the team by buying new players. That could be true but you can also weaken the team with the wrong signings.

I think it's been obvious from the last few years that there has been a problem at the core of Hibs. If Fenlon is addressing that, successfully, then perhaps the future is brighter? I would be happy to have gotten rid of the cancer that has been plaguing us.

Is Fenlon addressing that though? Doyle, Kujabi and Claros, Fenlon signings, haven't exactly strengthened us.

Still to see Clancy, Cairney and Williams perform, but hopefully there better than they three!!!

[Northfield Hibby]

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Exactly. How many of the players listed earlier could have probably walked into most teams in the league if it was all about skill and ability, the same teams that we were regularly rolling over too because we weren't prepared to roll up our sleeves.

I'm not saying we are world beaters, far from it, however I think this team will finish higher than last seasons.

I hope your right. But imo, the squad we have just now is bottom six.

Look at pre-season. Stephens, Claros, Stevenson, Sproule, Doyle and Wotherspoon all looking like main starters. How many of them started the Scottish Cup Final? But now they are first picks!!!

[edwards]

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So any actual transfer romours then?

None of that kind of talk going on here doom and gloom before we have kicked the first ba jesus

[Northfield Hibby]

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None of that kind of talk going on here doom and gloom before we have kicked the first ba jesus

Well maybe if there was some substance of new signings coming in, it wouldn't be so doom and gloom then!!!

[ScottB]

God the endless negativity! Good to see the revisionism has kicked in big time and players like Docherty and Soares are now huge losses to the club. Are they **** frankly.

Just like the Motherwells, we are waiting to see what Sky do. If that money vanishes, where exactly does the money for more players come from? Season ticket sales doesn't come close to paying for the wage budget we have as it is.


I'm much more optimistic this year, we've ditched all the washed up huddies that came to us from 'big clubs,' we've got a couple of really exciting looking youngsters coming in, I think our defence looks far more solid than it has been for a long time...


Let's give the endless negativity a wee break eh folks!