Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Siralbertkidd]

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Is this for real?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/07...6908-23911276/

Even better, one of the guys they bumped was a magician.

I think therangers need him now more than ever

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Even better, one of the guys they bumped was a magician.

I think therangers need him now more than ever

Sir Albert Kidd, may I just digress for a moment to say you're a bloody hero and to thank you for that glorious afternoon at Dens

[lapsedhibee]

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Even better, one of the guys they bumped was a magician.

I think therangers need him now more than ever

Not that far away now from being thealsorangers.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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There is absolutely no doubt that they won all the titles unfairly, and each one of the medals is tarnished so badly with the stain of cheating and hypocrisy, that all the brasso in the world won't wipe it off. I would have thought it would be more appropriate to let them keep them as a testament to their core values? Hollow, hollow, we are the bully boys.

As far as I'm concerned they can take them all and throw them in the bin, because they won every one by cheating.

[WindyMiller]

Just the sort of person you'd expect to get involved with them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ens-Sevco.html

[grunt]

An update on the BTC from Alex Thomson

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...-tribunal/2359

Actually, not so much an update as a complaint that no-one is telling him anything.

[CropleyWasGod]

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An update on the BTC from Alex Thomson

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...-tribunal/2359

Nothing will be happening just now. RFC's advisers will have stopped acting for them, and that will have caused delays. The likeliest outcome, IMO, is that the FTTT will simply confirm the HMRC assessments, in the absence of any defence from RFC.

And, in the big scheme of things, that will mean diddley squat.

[VickMackie]

They are probably waiting for rangers to be liquidated.

What happens if the BTC rules in their favour after the total amount was included, and inflated, in the % of amount during the admin vote?

[CropleyWasGod]

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They are probably waiting for rangers to be liquidated.

What happens if the BTC rules in their favour after the total amount was included, and inflated, in the % of amount during the admin vote?

The liquidation is of no interest to the FTTT.

On your second point, the payment in the £ to creditors would be increased accordingly.

[stoobs]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this Scotsman article says that Friday is the (latest) deadline day for Rangers to get SFA registration. SFL rules state a 14 day limit.

More pressing for the new Rangers is the fact that SFL rules state new clubs must gain SFA membership within 14 days of being accepted into their organisation. That means that Friday is the deadline day for Sevco, who have been treated as a completely new club by the SFL in paying a £1,000 application fee and a £1,000 entrance fee to play in the Third Division.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...oist-1-2425462

Seems like quite a good article. Says that Ally McCoist has a "confused stance".

When is Ranger's first proper game?

[EdinMike]

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but this Scotsman article says that Friday is the (latest) deadline day for Rangers to get SFA registration. SFL rules state a 14 day limit.



http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...oist-1-2425462

Seems like quite a good article. Says that Ally McCoist has a "confused stance".

When is Ranger's first proper game?

Is it not next Weekend for the Ramsdens Cup ?

[stoobs]

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Is it not next Weekend for the Ramsdens Cup ?

Ouch. Sounds like they might be cutting it fine!

[Just Alf]

I notice The Rangers won 5_1 over the weekend, according to the Scotsman "with a strong team full of internationals" ....... thought Swally was bleating about the registration embargo because he didn't have a team? (again)....


In the interests of transparency we should be told..... is the Scotsman lying through its teeth .... or is someone else?

[Twiglet]

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I notice The Rangers won 5_1 over the weekend, according to the Scotsman "with a strong team full of internationals" ....... thought Swally was bleating about the registration embargo because he didn't have a team? (again)....


In the interests of transparency we should be told..... is the Scotsman lying through its teeth .... or is someone else?

Do the players need to be registered to play in a friendly? Teams field trialists at friendlies all the time but they wouldn_ be registered with that club.
The player registration for rangers is, or was at least 2 weeks ago, still with the old co.

[Just Alf]

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Do the players need to be registered to play in a friendly? Teams field trialists at friendlies all the time but they wouldn_ be registered with that club.
The player registration for rangers is, or was at least 2 weeks ago, still with the old co.

They're playing the games at murray park and it looks like they're being classed as combined training events...... so doesn't seem to apply :

[VickMackie]

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The liquidation is of no interest to the FTTT.

On your second point, the payment in the £ to creditors would be increased accordingly.

Thanks for the info.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Is it not next Weekend for the Ramsdens Cup ?

See Rangers place? Will they have to get someone else to fillet?

[IFONLY]

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See Rangers place? Will they have to get someone else to fillet?

Wrong Ramsdens Im afraid!!!!!!

[CropleyWasGod]

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Wrong Ramsdens Im afraid!!!!!!

Ahhh, the subliminal power of sponsorship.

[greenginger]

Never realised the Ramsden Company sponsoring the Ramsden Cup was a cash for gold and pawn broking company.

How absolutely perfect for the destitute Govan tramps.

[Waxy]

I can see them losing ibrokes to the liquidators and having to develope a wee ground at murray park

[Just Alf]

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See Rangers place? Will they have to get someone else to fillet?

groan!

[StevieC]

One of the papers is suggesting today that another sticking point in the delay to transfer the SFA membership is the SFL's refusal to sign over TV and media rights of Newco in the SFL. I'm not sure how that should affect the membership transfer, as it seems to be an issue between SPL and SFL.

Fair play to the SFL if that's the case though, and I hope the SFL stick to their guns. Their members were forced to accept Newco and I think it's only fair that they get the opportunity to cash in with a decent TV deal from someone.

[Jim44]

The 'big' news overby is that Brian Kennedy is to make a £5.5M bid today for a controlling share in Newco. Sorry if already posted.

[grunt]

This is hilarious...

http://eturnkeysec3340002378c9.users...active_id/1027

[ginger_rice]

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This is hilarious...

http://eturnkeysec3340002378c9.users...active_id/1027

Appears to me that Craigy Boy is playing with fire whilst holding several pounds of semtex in his hands.

Is that Di Stefano mentioned in the article the same guy who was at Dundee?

[Gettin' Auld]

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Is that Di Stefano mentioned in the article the same guy who was at Dundee?

Aye it is.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Appears to me that Craigy Boy is playing with fire whilst holding several pounds of semtex in his hands.

Is that Di Stefano mentioned in the article the same guy who was at Dundee?

That's him, he also tried to claim he was Sadaam Hussein's lawyer, and spoke for him in court. Readers of Private Eye are well acquainted with this man's antics.

[JeMeSouviens]

Traynor's record piece today is an absolute belter even by his standards. The New Huns are apparently going to have such a love in with their new pals in the SFL that they're all going to set up in competition to the SPL and stop promotion/relegation.

[grunt]

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Traynor's record piece today is an absolute belter even by his standards.

The man's a buffoon.

What's the bid idea?

By jim Traynor on Jul 23, 12 07:34 AM

WITH only days to go before Rangers begin life all over again there should be a sense of anticipation sweeping through a club which has been disgraced, discredited and dumped in the game's basement. At least they still have a pulse but 10 weeks after Charles Green agreed an exclusivity deal with Rangers' administrators, uncertainty and anxiety continue to stalk the corridors of Ibrox and Murray Park.

And I believe concern over the new club's finances has prompted Brian Kennedy to make a £5.6million bid for a controlling interest. Rangers sources insist that bid, more than Green and his partners from Zeus paid for the entire package, was made on June 25 and although rejected, my information is it remains on the table.

It is also understood from within Ibrox that there is growing concern over Rangers' future because Green's business plan was based on his club starting in the First Division at worst. One of the main planks of his model was a rush by fans to buy season tickets but so far no one has been trampled in the stampede to the box office. Yet, Green's own "Financial Offering", the document sent out to potential investors, made reference to raising as much as £15m through season tickets. There is still a wide credibility gap between Green and Rangers supporters. They remain unconvinced by the Yorkshireman and his people and so it seems do investors, even though an English sports agency said last week they want to pay £1m for a 10 per cent share. They didn't have to muscle their way to the front of a queue either, even though Green insisted from day one that attracting investors and money wouldn't be a problem. It was also written in his document that as much as £30m of working capital would be brought in by the middle of July and Rangers fans might want to ask where that money is. Green would say his plan was dependent on gaining control of the club through a CVA but even so, surely a handful, a few even, out of all the investors - I think, Charles, you may have mentioned 20 - he said were lined up might have gone ahead regardless. But where are they? Where's the money Charles? And is there enough to keep Rangers going long enough to survive the season?

The truth is Rangers' financial woes are far from over but any cash-flow problems could be solved if Green accepted Kennedy's offer which remains live. Kennedy, of course, tried to get Rangers on his own, and then by riding with the Blue Knights, but while they and others were left behind when Green made his blindside run, the English-based Scottish millionaire kept up to speed with developments.
He continued to monitor the situation very closely and our sources believe his offer to be substantial and fair. The deal is Kennedy would gain 51 per cent of the club in return for his money which would be used as working capital rather than to fill anyone's pockets and, within two years, Green's investors would get back the amounts they put in, with 10 per cent interest on top. It is understood Kennedy was reluctant to turn his back because he fears Rangers could slide back into administration, or worse. That's why he's willing to boost resources by injecting more than the purchase price paid by Green's group while still offering them the chance to get their money back, and then some.
The bid was dismissed when Green believed Rangers would start in the SPL or, at worst, the First Division but our information suggests attitudes within the controlling group might be softening now they are in the Third.

Understandably, there is acute concern that despite a series of charm offensives, season tickets have not been sold in great numbers. But there are one or two within Ibrox who are beginning to wonder if the fans would be tempted to pile in with Kennedy on board. Anger has also been simmering among the Rangers support because their club doesn't have a powerful voice at the game's top tables. They are asking why Green and club chairman Malcolm Murray haven't been more vociferous in defending Rangers against sanctions but with Kennedy and his management team in place that could be another problem solved.

The SFA, who hit Rangers with a £160,000 fine and a 12-month registration ban, and SFL have said they won't be pushing to have any of their trophies won by Rangers during the EBT years erased from the records. The SPL, however, have yet to tell their own agitators it might be time to focus on more important issues, like staying alive. Kennedy might have delivered that message long ago and he'd probably be warning that if the SPL remain entrenched over the issue of titles they might push Rangers to the point where they are happy to stay in the SFL, rather than return to a league which has made it very clear they couldn't accept them. The rift could become permanent if the SPL insist on further sanctions which would push Rangers even closer to their new neighbours.

In fact, the notion of the SFL and Rangers forming a stand-alone system, which would prevent promotion to the SPL has, I believe, been discussed informally and some think it has merit and possibilities. There are only two massive clubs in Scotland, even if one of them, Rangers, are on their knees. But they will get back to their feet and if they remained in the SFL the game's poor relations could very quickly become the stronger and richer of the two leagues. Naturally, the SPL would laugh at the very idea yet if, because of diminishing TV and sponsorship deals, they lose a few clubs they'd be reduced to Celtic, the game's main power, but perhaps only seven or eight impoverished others. Those clubs could be even less of an attraction to telly companies than now. On the other hand, SFL clubs would benefit from deals of their own because they now have one of the big two in their pack. And having already lost everything, Rangers have nothing left to risk. The SFL, and Rangers, might never have a better chance to grow, while the SPL, who left the others behind in 1998 to set up on their own, would become weaker. The SFA would probably be unable to resist a wish by the SFL and Rangers to stand alone and demand European places because they couldn't rule in favour of, say, eight or nine SPL clubs against 30 in the SFL. After all, haven't the SPL been insisting the voice of the majority must be heard?

First, Rangers have to stay alive and if Green needs the fans to back him through season-ticket sales he just might sell a few more by doing a deal with Kennedy. And Ally McCoist might be told for the first time how much he has to spend on his project: Rebuilding Rangers