East Fife v Hibs, Saturday 14th - 2pm

**--------** · 14-07-2012 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Twiglet

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Don't like how McPake keeps bending down and stretching whenever play stops.

Maybe he's lost a 20p?

**~~Hibercelona~~** · 14-07-2012 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Doddie

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Maybe he's lost a 20p?

I heard that Rod taught him the bending down for a coin technique during pre-season training.

The next lesson will be about catching it on the back of the head.

***Twiglet*** · 14-07-2012 02:57 PM

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I'd imagine that if it was anything serious they would take him off if that's what you're meaning?

I know, it's just not something i like to see. Hopefully, he's just a bit tight from those extra training sessions we've heard about and he's 100% fcor dundee utd.

***SaulGoodman*** · 14-07-2012 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Twiglet

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I know, it's just not something i like to see. Hopefully, he's just a bit tight from those extra training sessions we've heard about and he's 100% fcor dundee utd.

He will be. He stretches all the time during games, I noticed it a lot last season.

***matty_f*** · 14-07-2012 02:59 PM

Who would have thought that Bob Malcolm would finish his career at a higher level than Rangers!?

***Keith_M*** · 14-07-2012 02:59 PM

Is the game finished?

Final score 2 - 0 ?

***nonshinyfinish*** · 14-07-2012 03:01 PM

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Is the game finished?

Final score 2 - 0 ?

The rules stipulate 30 seconds added on per substitution, so they're probably still playing.

***Twiglet*** · 14-07-2012 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Meh

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He will be. He stretches all the time during games, I noticed it a lot last season.

Never picked up on that last season. Good to hear. :)

***Twiglet*** · 14-07-2012 03:06 PM

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Is the game finished?

Final score 2 - 0 ?

Yes and yes. Sitting in my car waiting to get out. Not even bothered turning on my engine yet as the traffic is still backed up.

**Andy74** · 14-07-2012 03:06 PM

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Who would have thought that Bob Malcolm would finish his career at a higher level than Rangers!?

Quality

***Keith_M*** · 14-07-2012 03:07 PM

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Is the game finished?

Final score 2 - 0 ?

Originally Posted by Twiglet

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Yes and yes. Sitting in my car waiting to get out. Not even bothered turning on my engine yet as the traffic is still backed up.

Cheers

**truehibernian** · 14-07-2012 03:31 PM

Ayr United pumping a full strength 'Well side 4-0 with still twenty minutes to go.

**Dinkydoo** · 14-07-2012 03:34 PM

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Ayr United pumping a full strength 'Well side 4-0 with still twenty minutes to go.

Obviously missing their star man Clancey

***California-Hibs*** · 14-07-2012 03:55 PM

Well, here's my two pence worth..

First half was a total non event, we were poor, very poor. We simply can't go into the new season with a midfield that consist's of Wotherspoon and Stevenson, we need better quality in there big time! Don't get me wrong, it was a usual committed performance from Lewis but the fact of the matter is that if we want to move forward as a club and reach a new level then a midfielder of his standard cannot be involved. Same goes for David, for a guy of his age i just can't for the life of me work out why he's just SO incredibly slow. Claros was composed but needs to get involved more in games. I was pretty let down with Cairney, didn't exactly do anything wrong but was a ghost first half.

The defense did ok first half, a few shaky moments here and there but not too bad. Clancy was solid enough in the right back position.

we simply can't (and hopefully won't) go into the new season with just Doyle up front like we did today. He's still far too light weight. Could be a different story however if we sign a good experience striker to play up top with him, he doe's make the odd good run into space.

Second half - MUCH improved. Cairney looks more lively (is he a left midfielder because i thought he was a centre?) This half gave me more hope. Clancy moved to centre half with Mcpake and Alan Maybury brought on at right back. For me, Clancy looked far better in the middle with Mcpake than he did at right back (although as i say, he was solid enough in there). Maybury imo done well. He was alot quicker than i expect and likes to get down the flank and was in the opposition half a good few time's. I'd certainly be tempted to give him a deal and won't be disappointed if pat does. A defense of Hanlon, Mcpake, Clancy, Maybury, could do pretty well.

Ivan was the bright spark on the pitch today, done well. Took his goal brilliantly and was positive going forward. The introduction of Ross Caldwell in the second half was another positive from today. In the first 5 minutes he had already done more than Doyle did for 45. The guy look's strong and he's also quick, hopefully we see alot more of this guy this season. Ozzy also done well when introduced, positive going forward, athletic and strong, i feel he offers something.

All in all a good run out with a much better second half showing than first. BUT....we still need a good few players if we want to avoid another relegation battle. Two midfielders and a striker would make me feel a whole lot more confident

***Scouse Hibee*** · 14-07-2012 04:01 PM

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Well, here's my two pence worth..

First half was a total non event, we were poor, very poor. We simply can't go into the new season with a midfield that consist's of Wotherspoon and Stevenson, we need better quality in there big time! Don't get me wrong, it was a usual committed performance from Lewis but the fact of the matter is that if we want to move forward as a club and reach a new level then a midfielder of his standard cannot be involved. Same goes for David, for a guy of his age i just can't for the life of me work out why he's just SO incredibly slow. Claros was composed but needs to get involved more in games. I was pretty let down with Cairney, didn't exactly do anything wrong but was a ghost first half.

The defense did ok first half, a few shaky moments here and there but not too bad. Clancy was solid enough in the right back position.

we simply can't (and hopefully won't) go into the new season with just Doyle up front like we did today. He's still far too light weight. Could be a different story however if we sign a good experience striker to play up top with him, he doe's make the odd good run into space.

Second half - MUCH improved. Cairney looks more lively (is he a left midfielder because i thought he was a centre?) This half gave me more hope. Clancy moved to centre half with Mcpake and Alan Maybury brought on at right back. For me, Clancy looked far better in the middle with Mcpake than he did at right back (although as i say, he was solid enough in there). Maybury imo done well. He was alot quicker than i expect and likes to get down the flank and was in the opposition half a good few time's. I'd certainly be tempted to give him a deal and won't be disappointed if pat does. A defense of Hanlon, Mcpake, Clancy, Muybury, could do pretty well.

Ivan was the bright spark on the pitch today, done well. Took his goal brilliantly and was positive going forward. The introduction of Ross Caldwell in the second half was another positive from today. In the first 5 minutes he had already done more than Doyle did for 45. The guy look's strong and he's also quick, hopefully we see alot more of this guy this season. Ozzy also done well when introduced, positive going forward, athletic and strong, i feel he offers something.

All in all a good run out with a much better second half showing than first. BUT....we still need a good few players if we want to avoid another relegation battle. Two midfielders and a striker would make me feel a whole lot more confident

Thanks for that, couldn't make it today but was keen to hear what the new guys played like. A long way to go yet!

**BarneyK** · 14-07-2012 04:08 PM

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Well, here's my two pence worth..

First half was a total non event, we were poor, very poor. We simply can't go into the new season with a midfield that consist's of Wotherspoon and Stevenson, we need better quality in there big time! Don't get me wrong, it was a usual committed performance from Lewis but the fact of the matter is that if we want to move forward as a club and reach a new level then a midfielder of his standard cannot be involved. Same goes for David, for a guy of his age i just can't for the life of me work out why he's just SO incredibly slow. Claros was composed but needs to get involved more in games. I was pretty let down with Cairney, didn't exactly do anything wrong but was a ghost first half.

The defense did ok first half, a few shaky moments here and there but not too bad. Clancy was solid enough in the right back position.

we simply can't (and hopefully won't) go into the new season with just Doyle up front like we did today. He's still far too light weight. Could be a different story however if we sign a good experience striker to play up top with him, he doe's make the odd good run into space.

Second half - MUCH improved. Cairney looks more lively (is he a left midfielder because i thought he was a centre?) This half gave me more hope. Clancy moved to centre half with Mcpake and Alan Maybury brought on at right back. For me, Clancy looked far better in the middle with Mcpake than he did at right back (although as i say, he was solid enough in there). Maybury imo done well. He was alot quicker than i expect and likes to get down the flank and was in the opposition half a good few time's. I'd certainly be tempted to give him a deal and won't be disappointed if pat does. A defense of Hanlon, Mcpake, Clancy, Maybury, could do pretty well.

Ivan was the bright spark on the pitch today, done well. Took his goal brilliantly and was positive going forward. The introduction of Ross Caldwell in the second half was another positive from today. In the first 5 minutes he had already done more than Doyle did for 45. The guy look's strong and he's also quick, hopefully we see alot more of this guy this season. Ozzy also done well when introduced, positive going forward, athletic and strong, i feel he offers something.

All in all a good run out with a much better second half showing than first. BUT....we still need a good few players if we want to avoid another relegation battle. Two midfielders and a striker would make me feel a whole lot more confident

I thought both played well today.

**At The Edge** · 14-07-2012 04:09 PM

How was the new keeper? command his area and come off the line now and then?

**goosefat** · 14-07-2012 04:10 PM

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Obviously missing their star man Clancey

It does make me wonder why teams in the SPL make such a fuss about getting into Europe. Yes, it'll be a bit of money for the clubs involved, but lets not kid ourselves, none of them will get anywhere near the league stages and most will probably fall at the opening qualifying game.

woooosh....

What was that?

That, Mr McCall, was your European campaign for this season.

oh.

***lucky*** · 14-07-2012 04:20 PM

Decent performance for the first outing of the season. Thought Wotherspoon was our best player today. Cariney did well when he had the ball was willing to run at people. Caldwell look decent when he came on. Maybury was the bigest suprise, he was actually quite good going forward. Clancy and Williams will add to the expreince at the back and were good talkers but we still need a left back to make us solid. Dont think we can play only 1 up front as Doyle needs a partner. Overall a decent first pre season friendly

***California-Hibs*** · 14-07-2012 04:23 PM

Oh, i forgot to mention the keeper, who was another positive today! The guy likes to communicate, he was constantly shouting (has a very LOUD voice!) Kept the defense's shape well. Didn't have too much to do, but look's like he can command his area well with the few crosses he gathered with ease. Will need another game to properly judge but the early signs are very good indeed!

***California-Hibs*** · 14-07-2012 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by lucky

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Decent performance for the first outing of the season. Thought Wotherspoon was our best player today. Cariney did well when he had the ball was willing to run at people. Caldwell look decent when he came on. Maybury was the bigest suprise, he was actually quite good going forward. Clancy and Williams will add to the expreince at the back and were good talkers but we still need a left back to make us solid. Dont think we can play only 1 up front as Doyle needs a partner. Overall a decent first pre season friendly

Completely baffling, but as the saying goes, 'each to their own'.

***StevieC*** · 14-07-2012 04:30 PM

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Ivan was the bright spark on the pitch today, done well. Took his goal brilliantly and was positive going forward.

All in all a good run out with a much better second half showing than first. BUT....we still need a good few players if we want to avoid another relegation battle. Two midfielders and a striker would make me feel a whole lot more confident

Not what I saw. He missed a couple of good chances first half. He was also played some good balls down the right but his crossing was poor.

I agree it was a better second half. Definitely need more/better in the striking department.

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I thought both played well today.

Wotherspoon did quite well, and unlucky not to get on the score sheet. Stevenson I thought played okay without really trying too hard. First half was played at "bounce game" speed so not easy to make a proper analysis of players (new and old).

***.Sean.*** · 14-07-2012 04:35 PM

That was absolute rubbish. Don't think I've ever been as bored during a game. Still at least 5 players short IMO.

**sparkiedelpaco7** · 14-07-2012 04:36 PM

Ratings

GK - Ben Williams - 8 - Very Vocal and Sturdy.

RB - Tim Clancy - 7 - Played well and Nice goal. Looked better at CB in 2nd Half.
CB - James McPake - 8 - Usual High Performance.
CB - David Stephens - 6 - Looked shaky at points and gave away the ball too often.
LB - Paul Hanlon - 7 - Played well.

RM - Ivan Sproule - 8 - Gd attacking threat and was involved alot.
CM - Lewis Stevenson - 6 - Did nothing wrong but equally nothing stand out.
CM - Jorge Claros - 6 - Same as Lewis.
LM - Paul Cairney - 8 - Looked very gd on the ball and worked well with spoony.

AM - David Wotherspoon - 8 - My MOTM today. Controlled our attack.

CF - Eoin Doyle - 7 - Wasnt his best game but still well involved

Subs

GK - Callum Antell - 7 - Did nothing wrong
RB - Alan Maybury - 7 - Played well
LB - Callum Booth - 6 - could have done more going forward
RM - Sam Stanton - 6 - Didnt have long
CM - Harry Monaghan - 6 - Played ok but didnt stand out
CM - Isiah Osbourne - 7 - Played well and had some gd shots
LM - Pa Kujabi - 6 - Didnt stand out
CF - Danny Handling - 6 - Didnt have too long
CF - Ross Caldwell - 8 - Held up ball well and played strong

***Billy Whizz*** · 14-07-2012 04:37 PM

Noticed no O'Hanlon or Scott Smith on the squad today, injured?

**JIm** · 14-07-2012 04:40 PM

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Completely baffling, but as the saying goes, 'each to their own'.

Your analysis is whats baffling me. Wotherspoon was excellent. But as the saying goes "each to their own"

***lucky*** · 14-07-2012 04:40 PM

Football is about opinions 2 of posts say Spoony MOM other 2 disagree. Yip footballs back

**Leighonel** · 14-07-2012 04:41 PM

Ross Caldwell and Ozzy were the difference today.

Caldwell could be that striker we are looking for: used the ball well, won headers, held up play, had a few shots and nearly set up a goal.

Kujabi looked better in midfield.

I also noticed that the ball was rarely off the ground. The only long ball forward, that I can remember, from an outfield player was maybury but he found his man.

Still got quite a bit of work to do but it is the first game so I'm not worried.

**sbell1875** · 14-07-2012 04:42 PM

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I thought both played well today.

I would agree. Wotherspoon look quite dangerous playing off the striker. When he gets the ball and drives at players he looks a completely different player and he did that a few times today. Osbourne was a million times better than in the final and I know it is only East Fife but seeing him and Spoony trying to dribble with the ball and get involved up top I think things look a bit better.