Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[CropleyWasGod]

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Sorry if already posted...

brian mclauchlin @BBCBMcLauchlin

Charles Green told meeting during q"n"a he was informed by SFA that membership of association would be granted only if vote was for div1

The SFL meeting???

[Eyrie]

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am I the only one who hopes "sevco"doesn't win Div 3 next year ?

There's a chance of that happening because Sevco doesn't have a proper squad in place. If they'd been sensible and stated that they accepted that they would have to start in Division 3, then they could have signed players because the court threw out the transfer ban. Must be quite a few out of contract Huns-supporting players in Divisions 1 and 2 (or even the bottom of the SPL) who would leap at the chance to play for them for a couple of years. Now they're running out of time and available players.

The risk is that they would make losses doing this, but even if they lose £2m in Division 3, then £3m in Division 2 and £4m in Division One buying strong enough squads to guarantee promotion then Sevco would still be in a healthy position once they reach the SPL. Couple of seasons back and the debt would be cleared.

[Sir David Gray]

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After everything thats happened, I can't see the clubs now voting Sevco into the empty slot. That would be totally ludicrous.

Yep, it would be. Which is why it is something that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest as far as this saga goes.

[H18sry]

IN FULL: Charles Green’s statement on the SFL vote
by Andy Muirhead
Charles Green said: “We are grateful to be accepted as members of the SFL and accept their decision to vote us into Division 3.

“It is a matter of regret for all of us involved with Rangers that the issues surrounding the Club resulted in the SFL and its members being placed in a very difficult position not of their own making.

“From the outset, we made clear we would play where we were told to play and we just want to get back to playing football./em>

“This decision maintains the sporting integrity that clubs and fans across Scotland have been calling for but it also impacts massively on Scottish football as a whole and only time will tell what the consequences will be.

“Rangers has been handed the ultimate punishment of starting again from the bottom of the leagues but there is an overwhelming feeling among fans and within the Club of ‘wiping the slate clean’ as a club free of sanctions.

“The people who brought shame on this great Club are no longer part of it and everyone at Rangers is focused on rebuilding the club on top of a solid financial foundation.

“We wish to play a constructive part in Division 3 and encourage our fans to support the other clubs within the league by attending matches and delivering to them the benefits of having Rangers within their league.

“We have been greatly encouraged by the number of supporters who have committed to buying season tickets no matter where we ended up playing and I personally want to thank them for their continued loyalty to the club.

“We are a football club and we just want to get back to playing football. Now is the time to move on and start afresh.”

“Our task to rebuild the Club will take longer now but we are committed to the job and fully believe we will bring success back to Rangers.

Manager Ally McCoist said: “I fully accept the decision of the SFL today and thank them for allowing us into the SFL.

“Clearly, starting again from the bottom league is not ideal and makes the task of rebuilding Rangers a longer one but the SFL was placed in an impossible situation and I respect its decision.

“I fully supported the fans views that starting again in Division 3 maintains the sporting integrity that the SPL clubs were so keen on.

“The SPL clubs and the SFA have made their positions clear over the last few weeks and it remains to be seen what the long term effects of their decisions will be.

“Rangers has been severely punished for the actions of some individuals who previously ran the Club and it will take time for us to recover but we will come back stronger thanks to the loyalty of the fans and the commitment of everyone at Ibrox who are working tirelessly to bring stability and success back to Rangers.”

[stokesmessiah]

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The SFL meeting???

I guess so

[TheUsualSuspect]

I see more media bias o the BBC. They still have Rangers/Sevco on the Scottish Premier league page, maybe they know something we don't.

[givescotlandfreedom]

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If these figures are roughly accuract from a Hibs point of view we looking at needing an extra 105 fans to attend each home game, hardly a great deal is it not????

Hopefully those who said they would attend if the Huns were banished to the 3rd are true to their word but I've got a feeling so some it was a convenient excuse to stay away.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Hopefully those who said they would attend if the Huns were banished to the 3rd are true to their word but I've got a feeling so some it was a convenient excuse to stay away.

What makes you say that?

[CropleyWasGod]

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I guess so

If it was said at that meeting, it sounds like more empty threats.

However, if not.....

[SteveHFC]

It would be quite funny if we got the Newco in the League Cup Draw

[stokesmessiah]

I notice on a lot of forums this one included that people have been speculating about Sevco Utd now being suspended. I can't get my head around this, what difference would that make?

[Sir David Gray]

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I notice on a lot of forums this one included that people have been speculating about Sevco Utd now being suspended. I can't get my head around this, what difference would that make?

Would surely mean that there would be a vacancy in the SFL as they would only have 29 clubs and they would need to open it up for applications and then have a vote.

Not too sure how all that could be done in the space of a month though. They would maybe have to postpone the beginning of the 3rd division league season.

[steakbake]

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I notice on a lot of forums this one included that people have been speculating about Sevco Utd now being suspended. I can't get my head around this, what difference would that make?

Suspend for a year, bring in a bigger SPL, hey presto a ****ty tv deal based on OF fixtures.

[Northernhibee]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Regan...96705080356130

Link for those that use Facebook - now's the time for everyone to stay together and say no to SPL2, no to Sevco in SPL (yet again) and that Regan and Doncaster are utterly incompetant in every way. No my group but appears to be fairly freshly set up.

[givescotlandfreedom]

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What makes you say that?

A couple of folk I know and a couple on here seem to be moving the goalposts on their renewal or lack thereof.

[stokesmessiah]

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Suspend for a year, bring in a bigger SPL, hey presto a ****ty tv deal based on OF fixtures.

But if they cant get into the SPL now, how would they in 12 months?

[speedy_gonzales]

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But if they cant get into the SPL now, how would they in 12 months?

Absence makes the heart grow fonder,,,,,,,,apparently?

[Lungo--Drom]

No, relax, it's just that the hotline between Ibrox and the BBC via Dungcaster and Reekan's offices has been cut off due to a massive huff descending over certain parts of Weedgieville

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I see more media bias o the BBC. They still have Rangers/Sevco on the Scottish Premier league page, maybe they know something we don't.

[Lungo--Drom]

That's a line from the beginning of the YouTube animated film 'Explaining Debt To A Hun' I think

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What makes you say that?

[aussie_hibee]

Ye didnae get the top league
ye didnae get the next league
or even get the next league
yer in tae divvy 3

Do do do do click click
Do do do do click click
do do do do do do do do do do do do click click

[.Sean.]

I said to my mate tonight, the fans have got exactly what we wanted, the ball is firmly in our court. Time for the dormant supporters of every so-called 'lesser club' to get up off their ***** and pay at the gates, it's the only way clubs will make up the Rangers deficit. The clubs done their bit, time to do our bit.


Obviousy, a fair few clubs will toil in the short-to-mid term, they'll have to cut their cloth accordingly and either take the hit or hope they get fans through the turnstiles - They've no other option, really. However, I firmly believe in the long-term, Scottish football is going to prosper.


Friday the 13th of July 2012 - The day Scottish football saved itself.

[Winston Ingram]

http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/13/4143/

Clyde's latest statement

[Spike Mandela]

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It would be quite funny if we got the Newco in the League Cup Draw

You kidding? Those heated balls will be back out (oooh errr missus) for the cup draws and Celtic will draw Sevco in every competition.

[bighairyfaeleith]

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http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/13/4143/

Clyde's latest statement

If clyde are right then the SFA needs to be disbanded and a new organisation setup in this country, it's rotten to the core and cannot be trusted to run our game impartially.

[Spike Mandela]

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http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/13/4143/

Clyde's latest statement

The clarity and logic in the Clyde fc statements throughout this process should make all of their supporters very proud. Indeed should the leadership of the SFA need replaced in the very near future a candidate from this boardroom would get my vote.

[grunt]

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The clarity and logic in the Clyde fc statements throughout this process should make all of their supporters very proud.

Really? I was just thinking the opposite. I have no idea what this quote from the statement means, can you explain it?

We reported this morning prior to the vote of all clubs that “Sevco Scotland Ltd will not be playing in the Third Division in the coming season." Nothing heard today altered that opinion, in fact, it strengthened it.

[Del Boy]

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Really? I was just thinking the opposite. I have no idea what this quote from the statement means, can you explain it?

It means the SFA will overturn the SFL decision and put newco back to SPL. thereby ending our interest in Scottish football.

[Finbar]

There's a previous statement on the Clyde website saying they were aware of the intention/ultimatum from the SFA that whatever happens Sevco would not be playing in the 3rd division, presumably said by Regan in an "over my dead body" kind of tone. After yesterday's meeting the Clyde board's opinion on the SFA's intentions has not changed, despite the clubs voting the way they did, they reckon the SFA will still do everything in their power to prevent a situation where Sevco are playing in the 3rd division.

By the way, does anyone happen to know how the gate money is divided up in the SFL? Do clubs get to keep all the gate money from their home games or do they still split it 50/50 like in the old days?

[s.a.m]

Lloyd Shepherd ‏@lloydshep
Someone Scottish from something called "Rangers" has just phoned and asked if I "fancy a game." Is this a 50 Shades of Grey thing?

[Bostonhibby]

Well that's the job nearly done, well done the SFL chairmen, at least I will be able to go to a scottish game now, even if it only means randomly picking non SPL teams excluding the 5 who supported the Zombies. All I need now is for there to be no dirty deal to reincarnate the corpse into SPL or up the leagues and I can watch SPL games.

Hoping that the non footballing side of this can now be properly dealt with. Still baffled why the deal for the assetts that have to be worth more than the "fixed" price that seems to have been agreed betwen Green and Duff & Duffer has been allowed to stand without investigation, hardly the best outcome for the creditors/HMRC. We really do need someone to get at the maximum money that can be picked off the corpse and also an investigation into any fraud associated with the transactions.