Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[heretoday]

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The Telegraph does't pull its punches on the stewardship of Regan and Doncaster.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...thorities.html

"Threats and bribes...." Strong stuff!

[Saorsa]

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"Threats and bribes...." Strong stuff!

Calling it what it is!

[GreenOnions]

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The meeting is a waste of time and money. Just get the SFL club chairmen to email in their decisions. It'll save them dragging their beer bellies and ill-fitting suits up the Hampden steps in the hope of being glimpsed on Reporting Scotland.

Division 3 for the New Huns and they should consider themselves lucky they are not down in the West of Scotland Juniors.

Ha, ha. You've just summed up the mood on this entire thread. Totally agree hopefully the right thing will be done today and then everyone can move on.

[GreenOnions]

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The Telegraph does't pull its punches on the stewardship of Regan and Doncaster.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...thorities.html

Best suggestion yet for the new name for Sevco: "I can't believe it's not Rangers"

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'm not sure who i detest the most

1. neil doncaster
2. stewart regan
3. old huns
4. new huns
5. jim traynor
6. craig burley
7. gordhun smith
8. craig whyte
9. hun neds McCoist/brown/jardine
10. Duff and Phelps
11. archie McPhershun
12. Brechin city


the dirty dozen

[lucky]

Alex Thompsons latest blog is claiming a leaked Stewart Regan email set out the plan and timetable to get the Huns into 1st division and in it he asks Rod Petrie to breif Charles Green on what is happening.

I feel our chairman is playing us all for fools. By clearly being part of the cut up of Scottish football

[Phil MaGlass]

Thing is newco buns have to apply to the SFL for admittance, why does everyone think they will even be admitted.Now, wouldnt it be funny as ---k if they are turned down hahahahahaha......

[BroxburnHibee]

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Alex Thompsons latest blog is claiming a leaked Stewart Regan email set out the plan and timetable to get the Huns into 1st division and in it he asks Rod Petrie to breif Charles Green on what is happening.

I feel our chairman is playing us all for fools. By clearly being part of the cut up of Scottish football

Hopefully the SFL will put paid to all their plans

[Saorsa]

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Alex Thompsons latest blog is claiming a leaked Stewart Regan email set out the plan and timetable to get the Huns into 1st division and in it he asks Rod Petrie to breif Charles Green on what is happening.

I feel our chairman is playing us all for fools. By clearly being part of the cut up of Scottish football

bit.ly/Ohx398

Surely no! "sporting integrity is beyond purchase"

[BroxburnHibee]

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...ale-world/2265

[Dalkeith]

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http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thoms...ale-world/2265

“In parallel to the above, could Rod Petrie please brief Charles Green confidentially on the discussions from a Scottish FA perspective so that there are ‘no surprises’ and there is a general acceptance of the plan…”
So the “Rangers” boss gets full briefings on the quiet to keep him sweet whilst -as clubs like Clyde make clear – they go begging for basic information about what’s on offer in return for soft-landing Mr Green’s Blues.

if true then RP has lost all my respect

[declan macmanus]

Mr Petrie should do the honourable thing and resign from either the Hibs board or from his position at the SFA. His position in blatantly trying to shoehorn the newco into SFL1 is an absolute disgrace.


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[Captain Trips]

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Mr Petrie should do the honourable thing and resign from either the Hibs board or from his position at the SFA. His position in blatantly trying to shoehorn the newco into SFL1 is an absolute disgrace.


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He should have resigned on 05/11/11.

[Bighoose]

Heres my guess at a timeline....

SFL clubs rightly will vote them into Div3 today.

SPL/SFA will then step in and we will have SPL2 by Monday with Newco Sevco in there.

BDO will uncover some serious bad stuff at liquidated Old Co.

Various Court cases will be going on as to who owns what to whom from when.

Newco Sevco will then struggle their way through 2-3 months of season (remember this will be the same business model that still lost £4M in 3 months while in Admin FFS) before being they are put in Admin.

And we're back to where we are just now, but with the game in an even bigger mess than before.

As someone said previously, how can anyone just allow them into a league without some proper guarantee they are not going to go
t!t$ up is beyond any sensible person.

And Charlie Green scribbling on the back of a fag packet is not a business plan format I am familiar with.

[BroxburnHibee]

Anyone think there is any chance that Doncaster will come out afterwards and say that SFL3 (which is looking likely) is not a viable option and then say that they will be allowed into the SPL after all?

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

[jonty]

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Alex Thompsons latest blog is claiming a leaked Stewart Regan email set out the plan and timetable to get the Huns into 1st division and in it he asks Rod Petrie to breif Charles Green on what is happening.

I feel our chairman is playing us all for fools. By clearly being part of the cut up of Scottish football

Under his remit (SFA or SPL?) he has to do as instructed by the boss.

Reading parts of the email available, by not referring to him as RP (as others have been by initials) he's either not included in the email, or Regan is asking the others to instruct him to do it.

Is there love lost between Regan and Petrie?

This is just a farce now, the SFA should have cleaned this up a long time ago. Regan and Doncaster out.

[Rossco1875]

Anyone know what time we might hear some news about the vote?

[dangermouse]

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Was in the Daily Record originally so must be true! mmmmm I wonder......

"No Rangers equals no Sky, unless Gers are back very soon," a source at the broadcaster told the Daily Record. "It's just not going to be commercially worth it if it's going to be any longer than 12 months with no Old Firm league games."

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/s...113142799.html

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-23896063/

Some strange dates on those articles. One is Thursday 14th June and the DR one is 25th June.

[YehButNoBut]

Protest by Rangers fans.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Anyone know what time we might hear some news about the vote?

The meeting is at 11am. "At the conclusion of the meeting there will be a buffet lunch".

At 2pm there will be a ritual sacrifice of ..... someone.

[LeighLoyal]

These clowns Regan and Doncaster are doing more damage to the Scottish game than even Rangers FC 1872-2012 (RIP). I want no changes to the structure to accomodate Sevco 2012 in a SPL 2 set up. These pair of Sevco agents must be removed!

[Saorsa]

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Mr Petrie should do the honourable thing and resign from either the Hibs board or from his position at the SFA. His position in blatantly trying to shoehorn the newco into SFL1 is an absolute disgrace.


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indeed, spouting off about 'sporting integrity' then being party tae two organisations that are blackmailing, bribing and threatening the clubs of another.

[joe breezy]

Dear Scott

Many thanks for your response. I realise how busy you will have been dealing with correspondence at this difficult time.

With Rod Petrie proclaiming that integrity was 'beyond purchase' and voting no to Sevco being in the SPL I was looking to contribute a bit more than usual in the coming season.

However, having found that the whole thing has been a stitch up I'm afraid I won't be back at Easter Road this season. The money I was going to put into Hibs will most likely go to my dad's favourite team Partick Thistle although teams like Clyde and Raith Rovers seem to be worthy causes too.

I believe that Rod Petrie should resign from his position at Hibs as he has been part of gerrymandering and a threatening, bullying approach towards the SFL clubs, which quite frankly is utterly shameful to the good name of Hibernian Football Club.

I realise finances will be very tight and would like to wish all at Hibernian all the best.

It is with great sadness that the actions of Rod Petrie and his collusion with Doncaster and Regan have led me to not be able to support the club until mr Petrie resigns.

Yours sincerely

[CropleyWasGod]

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indeed, spouting off about 'sporting integrity' then being party tae two organisations that are blackmailing, bribing and threatening the clubs of another.

Do you know whether he carried out this duty (which he is employed to do, after all) under protest, or willingly?

[Saorsa]

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Under his remit (SFA or SPL?) he has to do as instructed by the boss.

Reading parts of the email available, by not referring to him as RP (as others have been by initials) he's either not included in the email, or Regan is asking the others to instruct him to do it.

Is there love lost between Regan and Petrie?

This is just a farce now, the SFA should have cleaned this up a long time ago. Regan and Doncaster out.

If it's no compatible with the views he claims tae hold on sporting integrity then he should resign. Or is he only in favour of that if it disnae mean giving up his position otherwise he'll no bother.

[Hibs Class]

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Heres my guess at a timeline....

SFL clubs rightly will vote them into Div3 today.

SPL/SFA will then step in and we will have SPL2 by Monday with Newco Sevco in there.

BDO will uncover some serious bad stuff at liquidated Old Co.

Various Court cases will be going on as to who owns what to whom from when.

Newco Sevco will then struggle their way through 2-3 months of season (remember this will be the same business model that still lost £4M in 3 months while in Admin FFS) before being they are put in Admin.

And we're back to where we are just now, but with the game in an even bigger mess than before.

As someone said previously, how can anyone just allow them into a league without some proper guarantee they are not going to go
t!t$ up is beyond any sensible person.

And Charlie Green scribbling on the back of a fag packet is not a business plan format I am familiar with.

Given the apparent strength of feeling against newco on the part of the SFL clubs I could see the D1 clubs refusing to join an SPL2, so new huns would have no-one to play there. And despite the posturing I think the SPL chairmen know that to allow the newhuns back into the SPL now would be suicide.

[Saorsa]

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Do you know whether he carried out this duty (which he is employed to do, after all) under protest, or willingly?

He's involved and that's enough. Has he or any of the others involved with the SPL spoken out against the actions of doncaster and regan? Have I missed it? If they're no against it, they're for it and remaining silent disnae get them off the hook.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Has he or any of the others involved with the SPL spoken out against the actions of doncaster and regan? Have I missed it? If they're no against it, they're for it and remaining silent disnae get them off the hook.

I am still unclear as to whether he even did what he was instructed to do. All we have is part of an email suggesting that he be asked to do it, and the story has grown from there.

Even if he did, the important issue for me is whether he did so willingly or not.

[TrinityHibs]

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i'm not sure who i detest the most

1. neil doncaster
2. stewart regan
3. old huns
4. new huns
5. jim traynor
6. craig burley
7. gordhun smith
8. craig whyte
9. hun neds McCoist/brown/jardine
10. Duff and Phelps
11. archie McPhershun
12. Brechin city


the dirty dozen

Where's Davie Murray? Actually how could you hate wee Craigie he has brought der hun to their knees. You got to like a man that does that.

[greenginger]

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“In parallel to the above, could Rod Petrie please brief Charles Green confidentially on the discussions from a Scottish FA perspective so that there are ‘no surprises’ and there is a general acceptance of the plan…”
So the “Rangers” boss gets full briefings on the quiet to keep him sweet whilst -as clubs like Clyde make clear – they go begging for basic information about what’s on offer in return for soft-landing Mr Green’s Blues.

if true then RP has lost all my respect

Don't see it that way. Petrie has a position at the SFA and he was required to pass on information to Green who was the owner of an organisation that had applied to join the SFA and had applied to have an SPL share transferred to his NewCo.
I'm sure any deal being proposed was a Doncaster/Regan conncoction and Petrie little more than the messenger.

The important point was it did not affect Petrie's voting when he put his Hibs hat back on and there is no suggestion he has attemted to influence any other SPL or SFL Chairmen.