Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Waxy]

A thought.
When the zombies eventually make it back to the SPL in a few years,wont there be a boom in Scottish football.
Couldn't the SFA/SPL/SFL hold out for a far bigger tv deal?
This slight downturn which is about to happen when the zombies go D3 could be equalized in 3years time by massive interest.
First ever Celtic v Sevco zombies would probably be the most watched ever.

Just a thought

Wouldn't happen if they go straight to D1 imo

[Eyrie]

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The constant use of the phrase parachuting to div 1 gets right on Ma thruppenies. As sevco are not coming down from anywhere it should surely be replaced by catapulted to div 1.

I prefer wee_hibee's catapult for them ...

[The Baldmans Comb]

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Apologies if I have missed this in last few hundered pages

When are the SFA reviewing the punishment that was overturned by the COS ?

I thought expulsion was the next step up option wise after the transfer embargo was overturned.

Again, if I have missed it apologies

This has all been kicked into touch for the time being.

There is now only one objective in town for the SFA and the SPL and anyone in any authority in Scottish football that it to get Sevco into the SFL 1.

That is all that matters and nothing on this planet will be allowed to stop this happening least of all ridiculous little things like rules and regulations. In addition a whole new set of rules will have to be devised to allow a brand new company without any history to suddennly jump up 2 divisions from SFL 3 to SFL 1.

Once this mission has been accomplished trifiling little things such as the the EBT investigation and the Court of Session appeal will be revisited but this will all apply to the old club and not the new club and there will be no sanctions applied.

Carlsberg don't do corruption but.........

[ScottB]

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This has all been kicked into touch for the time being.

There is now only one objective in town for the SFA and the SPL and anyone in any authority in Scottish football that it to get Sevco into the SFL 1.

That is all that matters and nothing on this planet will be allowed to stop this happening least of all ridiculous little things like rules and regulations. In addition a whole new set of rules will have to be devised to allow a brand new company without any history to suddennly jump up 2 divisions from SFL 3 to SFL 1.

Once this mission has been accomplished trifiling little things such as the the EBT investigation and the Court of Session appeal will be revisited but this will all apply to the old club and not the new club and there will be no sanctions applied.

Carlsberg don't do corruption but.........

Either way I doubt it's coming back.

The SFA are apparently trying to get Rangers to legally accept they are still the same club and accept anything punishment wise that's still to come to them as part of them getting a licence. Sounds fair enough, but considering the grand plan for putting them in SFL1 is to get them back into the SPL in a seasons time, I can only imagine that Transfer Bans, Suspensions or Expulsions will be off the table.

If they go into SFL3, Newco can tell the SFA to stuff their terms for the licence and start again. They will be a totally new club and not in any way answerable for the crimes of the old.


If this goes the way the authorities want it to, then I suspect we will get into a situation where Rangers are treated as largely the same club, but either can't be punished for the oldco's crimes, or will get nothing but token fines as further punishments.

[The Baldmans Comb]

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Either way I doubt it's coming back.

The SFA are apparently trying to get Rangers to legally accept they are still the same club and accept anything punishment wise that's still to come to them as part of them getting a licence. Sounds fair enough, but considering the grand plan for putting them in SFL1 is to get them back into the SPL in a seasons time, I can only imagine that Transfer Bans, Suspensions or Expulsions will be off the table.

If they go into SFL3, Newco can tell the SFA to stuff their terms for the licence and start again. They will be a totally new club and not in any way answerable for the crimes of the old.


If this goes the way the authorities want it to, then I suspect we will get into a situation where Rangers are treated as largely the same club, but either can't be punished for the oldco's crimes, or will get nothing but token fines as further punishments.

I would completely agree, the first part of the mission is to get NewCo into SFL1. The second part of the mission is to get NewCo back into the SPL within one season.

Expulsions and suspensions are therefore completely off the planet as is a transfer ban hence what you are left with is some fines and perhaps some footballing debt.

If this doesn't look like working then somewhere throughout the season and maybe a wee leg up with +10 points or +25 points might help them along.

It all reminds me of the playground game when you tossed up a coin and lost.....aggh the best of 3 then you lost again..... aggh best of 5..... then you lost again...... aggh first one to 10 then.

What a carve up.

[StevieC]

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If they go into SFL3, Newco can tell the SFA to stuff their terms for the licence and start again. They will be a totally new club and not in any way answerable for the crimes of the old.

Although, the SFA/SFL could refuse a licence altogether until the meet the criteria of completed accounts, sound financial footing, etc.

I've said for a while now that allowing them into any division at the moment could be a disaster, given the current levels of instability at the club.
I'd have them out altogether for a season, for them to get their house in order, and then let them into the 3rd the following season.

[SteveHFC]

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[ScottB]

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Although, the SFA/SFL could refuse a licence altogether until the meet the criteria of completed accounts, sound financial footing, etc.

I've said for a while now that allowing them into any division at the moment could be a disaster, given the current levels of instability at the club.
I'd have them out altogether for a season, for them to get their house in order, and then let them into the 3rd the following season.

In a land of logic and integrity, that is the only solution.

At this stage I can't possibly imagine that they could prove they currently have the funds to complete the season. Though of course Alex Thomson tweeted that an SFA insider said to him that Rangers should never have been licensed for last season. Won't be holding my breath for any such actions here in the real world...

[Jim44]

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WTF would we wasn't rid of Lawall, for all he's not my favourite person and MIGHT be orchestrating things behind the scenes in favour of the Currant Buns no way will I sign a petition which seems to have been ill thought out and is essentially a Hun front. No offence to the poster, but I think you might've been conned.

Nobody's been conned. Nobody's suggesting you sign their stupid petition. My simple point which I think is quite clear is, 'why were we singled out from all the supporters of the other 10 SPL clubs as being the most likely to sign.' Whether we actually share their desire to get rid of Regan is neither here nor there. Furthermore the reference to Lawwell is immaterial to my point.

[ScottB]

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Nobody's been conned. Nobody's suggesting you sign their stupid petition. My simple point which I think is quite clear is, 'why were we singled out from all the supporters of the other 10 SPL clubs as being the most likely to sign.' Whether we actually share their desire to get rid of Regan is neither here nor there. Furthermore the reference to Lawwell is immaterial to my point.

Presumably because our Supporters Club Statement was in the papers today and nobody else's was?

[Pete]

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@slimjoegy: "****** the Rangers, they're dead" - The View, onstage now in Manchester

Celtic fans from Dundee. People like them are part of the problem.

[SteveHFC]

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[jgl07]

[QUOTE=DarlingtonHibee;3289389]Apologies if I have missed this in last few hundered pages

When are the SFA reviewing the punishment that was overturned by the COS ?

I thought expulsion was the next step up option wise after the transfer embargo was overturned.

Again, if I have missed it apologies [/QUOTE

No it was suspension for one year.

Expulsion was the next but one.

[Onion]

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Apologies if I have missed this in last few hundered pages

When are the SFA reviewing the punishment that was overturned by the COS ?

I thought expulsion was the next step up option wise after the transfer embargo was overturned.

Again, if I have missed it apologies [/QUOTE

No it was suspension for one year.

Expulsion was the next but one.

Good point, what are they doing about that ?

Fear is as soon as they are "relegated to Div 1" the authorities will conveniently forget all about any other punishments with the claim that "they have learned their lesson and won't do it again". Or more likely we'll hear nothing more about it.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Class!

[Mon Dieu4]

Di stefano is still one of my all time favourite mentalists!!!!

[The Falcon]

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Either way I doubt it's coming back.

The SFA are apparently trying to get Rangers to legally accept they are still the same club and accept anything punishment wise that's still to come to them as part of them getting a licence. Sounds fair enough, but considering the grand plan for putting them in SFL1 is to get them back into the SPL in a seasons time, I can only imagine that Transfer Bans, Suspensions or Expulsions will be off the table.

If they go into SFL3, Newco can tell the SFA to stuff their terms for the licence and start again. They will be a totally new club and not in any way answerable for the crimes of the old.


If this goes the way the authorities want it to, then I suspect we will get into a situation where Rangers are treated as largely the same club, but either can't be punished for the oldco's crimes, or will get nothing but token fines as further punishments.

The danger with that, from a Hun perspective, is that should they acknowledge a degree of responsibility for the crimes ( and they are crimes IMHO) of the old club then, I would imagine, Ticketus, for one, would be arguing that if Green agrees culpability for the "football debt" and pays them in full, then he equally cant deny that Rangers should pay Ticketus their money. I cant imagine the law will allow them to be selective as to who they pay and who they dont. Rangers themselves have already challenged the rule of the football authorities in a civil court so can't complain should others do the same.


They are either the Huns or they are not the Huns.

[lyonhibs]

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Am I the only one who doesn't find that remotely funny, but rather pretty sad, as Gazza's continuing cycle of self-delusion and mental instability plunges new depths??

[magpie1892]

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It's not nice to mock the afflicted (unless its a hun, of course, in which case 'open season').

Both men, in their own ways, are seriously ill.

[H18sry]

This is an astonishing letter. Stuart Regan stands accused of outright lying to SFL and SPL clubs.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...brass.18111915

[IWasThere2016]

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This is an astonishing letter. Stuart Regan stands accused of outright lying to SFL and SPL clubs.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...brass.18111915

WOW!!! Donkeycaster and Regan MUST go!

[TrickyNicky]

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This is an astonishing letter. Stuart Regan stands accused of outright lying to SFL and SPL clubs.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...brass.18111915

This whole sad tale has become a total embarrassment to Scottish Football, there are so many twist and turns due to so many personal agendas by so many people that it has completely turned the game in Scotland upside down and will struggle to find it's feet quickly.

You really couldn't write this script, it's just too far fetched and silly..

UEFA/ FIFA surely have no choice but to step in and deal with this immediately.

[Saorsa]

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This is an astonishing letter. Stuart Regan stands accused of outright lying to SFL and SPL clubs.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...brass.18111915

The only thing in that I would question is the bit about Longmuir, I dinnae think he's any less twisted than the rest.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Have to add my voice to those who find that sad, rather than funny.

[IWasThere2016]

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Have to add my voice to those who find that sad, rather than funny.

Yup - he is clearly not a well man.

[PatHead]

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This is an astonishing letter. Stuart Regan stands accused of outright lying to SFL and SPL clubs.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...brass.18111915

If SFA were going to block Newco's entry to the SPL why did they have to have a vote at all?

Why have days, weeks and months been spent on this matter. (Not to mention CWG' and CC's remaining braincells being mashed!) The rules should have and should still be followed which would avoid this bringing of our national sport into disrepute. I am amazed that politicians, whilst not getting involved in decision making, have not demanded a swifter resolution. Other than initial utterances about keeping "Rangers in).

The worst thing about this whole saga is that an opportunity to revolutionise Scottish Football is going to be missed. All due to a determined attempt to keep "Rangers" (as the SFA,SPL and SFL see them) in either the SPL or SFL1.

This will set the game back another 20 years.

[Kojock]

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This will set the game back another 20 years.

Could we not put the game back 40 years and bring back Turnbulls Tornadoes

[bawheid]

As each day unfolds Doncaster heaps further embarrassment upon the SPL with his total mismanagement of the situation. The Morton guy is probably right - he'll be losing the plot.

Doncaster is employed by the SPL clubs.

The SPL clubs should therefore remove Doncaster without delay, both for his sanity and the good of Scottish football.

David Longmuir is a good man by all accounts.

[Saorsa]

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As each day unfolds Doncaster heaps further embarrassment upon the SPL with his total mismanagement of the situation. The Morton guy is probably right - he'll be losing the plot.

Doncaster is employed by the SPL clubs.

The SPL clubs should therefore remove Doncaster without delay, both for his sanity and the good of Scottish football.

David Longmuir is a good man by all accounts.

IMO with their continued silence it can only be assumed that what he is doing, he is doing with their approval.

[Kojock]

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As each day unfolds Doncaster heaps further embarrassment upon the SPL with his total mismanagement of the situation. The Morton guy is probably right - he'll be losing the plot.

I think you could be right. Here is the latest photo of Doncaster, the cracks are certainly appearing.

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