Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Gatecrasher]

IMO the SPL as a footballing organisation is finished after that statement by Clyde, I can't see away back for it. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[DH1875]

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Sky's only statement has been that they plan to continue showing Scottish football, but that a renegotiation of the deal starting next season that is currently unsigned is likely.


Doncaster and co are the only ones claiming Sky will bail.

Really stupid question but, why can't any of these journalists actually do their job for once and contact the head honcho at SKY to see what's going on.

[PatHead]

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Sky's only statement has been that they plan to continue showing Scottish football, but that a renegotiation of the deal starting next season that is currently unsigned is likely.


Doncaster and co are the only ones claiming Sky will bail.

Doncaster and co are the only ones who have spoken to them and therefore the only ones who know the truth. (Not that I would believe them as he wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in the face). He should be out there trying to get a replacement deal though rather than bullying SFL.

[dchibs]

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You really couldnt make it up. A club has cheated for 20 years has bumped HMRC and other creditors for millions they liquidate get dropped one division and are back with no debt as strong as ever. Only in Scotland could this happen.

Is this Scotland or N Korea; Im beging to think they probably have more sporting integrity.

[PaulC]

As long as rantic play each other at least 4 times a season then TV, spl, sfa, media and the fans of the bigotted two will be happy. The rest of us just make up the numbers from league position 2 right down to last place in division 3.

Newco in spl or div 1 and I am out distancing myself completely from scottish farceball ....... What an absolute shambles this is

[Emerald]

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You think massive companies like SKY would care about anything else other than money?

Their annual turnover from the SPL is an estimated 400 million.

They don't give a ****.

Maybe they don't but how about the league sponsors. Putting your name in front of it could be suicide. Scottish Corrupt Premier League sponsored by ..................

[Speedway]

Let the whole thing collapse, and the jobs that go with it sadly. Cure the cancer and start again, partying like its 1875.

[Judas Iscariot]

If these corrupt ****s get away with this then EVERY single fan that is opposed to this should impliment a blanket boycott of all things SFA, going to the national team games, buying merchandise, etc etc... withdraw support to the SFA and our governing bodies at every level possible!!!

No point in boycotting Hibs games as our club have been against this from the off, it's the folk in power, SFA, SPL etc that need to feel the wrath!!

[Saorsa]

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If these corrupt ****s get away with this then EVERY single fan that is opposed to this should impliment a blanket boycott of all things SFA, going to the national team games, buying merchandise, etc etc... withdraw support to the SFA and our governing bodies at every level possible!!!

No point in boycotting Hibs games as our club have been against this from the off, it's the folk in power, SFA, SPL etc that need to feel the wrath!!

you dinnae think Petrie is involved in this? They're all saying one thing tae yer face and another behind yer back.

[JimBHibees]

The bottom line is that if some SPL clubs are that badly run that Rangers leaving the SPL would financially cripple them to be honest they should either go to the wall or into administration and that would just be tough. To use that as an excuse to carry out this perverted form of sporting integrity in the form of blackmailing, bullying and lying to SFL clubs is completely sickening. Rangers should be dealt with properly and then we will see what happens, clubs will need to cut their cloth accordingly and if that means going part time or worse that is just the way it goes. They will be replaced by other SFL teams and we go on.

[GreenPJ]

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It isn't our game, it's their cash cow. That's the problem.

Doncaster and at least some of the SPL chairmen obviously do not believe that the number of fans will walk away as are suggesting.

I still struggle with the fact that I thought there was still an investigation into wrong doing on the go by the SFA/SPL. How can they possibly be forcing clubs to accept an SFL1 or SPL solution when they have not had the outcome of the investigation which might then suggest demotion or suspension of the back of the findings.

[PatHead]

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The bottom line is that if some SPL clubs are that badly run that Rangers leaving the SPL would financially cripple them to be honest they should either go to the wall or into administration and that would just be tough. To use that as an excuse to carry out this perverted form of sporting integrity in the form of blackmailing, bullying and lying to SFL clubs is completely sickening. Rangers should be dealt with properly and then we will see what happens, clubs will need to cut their cloth accordingly and if that means going part time or worse that is just the way it goes. They will be replaced by other SFL teams and we go on.

Well said!

[gramskiwood]

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If these corrupt ****s get away with this then EVERY single fan that is opposed to this should impliment a blanket boycott of all things SFA, going to the national team games, buying merchandise, etc etc... withdraw support to the SFA and our governing bodies at every level possible!!!

No point in boycotting Hibs games as our club have been against this from the off, it's the folk in power, SFA, SPL etc that need to feel the wrath!!

But surely our Chairman is party to all of this despite what he has said.

[Hibercelona]

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Maybe they don't but how about the league sponsors. Putting your name in front of it could be suicide. Scottish Corrupt Premier League sponsored by ..................

It's always been well known that the SPL is a "fixed" league. It's never stopped sponsers in the past.

We have to face the facts, the SPL has always been one big cash cow for the greedy people at the top and we're the suckers that have continued to feed it.

[Brando7]

Name an SPL club that has went to the wall due to relegation and missing out on BOTH OF gate money & tv money..........not one club!!!

God help any club who thinks them out of the league will see them go bust then end up relegated this season

[PatHead]

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But surely our Chairman is party to all of this despite what he has said.

Not necessarily. He may have voted against it but been outvoted. (Club statement last week hints at that by saying vote must take place and Hibs will still vote no) That is why it is important Hibs/Petrie make a statement.

[jgl07]

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Let the whole thing collapse, and the jobs that go with it sadly. Cure the cancer and start again, partying like its 1875.

What worries me is that the whole collapse of the SPL/SFL may be being engineered with the aim of getting Rangers and Celtic a ticket elsewhere.

[DH1875]

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River finished bottom one season, the league then changed the rules to say that relegation would be based on a three year average (or somesuch), which kept them up. River then kept being **** for the next 1-2 years and were relegated under the new rules.

So it worked out good for them then .

Has it def been confirmed there will be no vote today? If so, that's nothing short of a ducking joke. Hope the SFL chairmen stick to their guns and then we'll see where the SPL chairmen really stand when it comes to kicking out rangers.
In fact, have the SFA not said they will block the newco from getting into the SPL? If so, what's the point of even having a vote? If this aint sorted soon then Scottish football can go do one.

[Judas Iscariot]

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you dinnae think Petrie is involved in this? They're all saying one thing tae yer face and another behind yer back.

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But surely our Chairman is party to all of this despite what he has said.

Maybe, maybe no?

Nobody knows for sure either way so i'd rather not turn my back on my club just on the off chance they might've known about this..

Wether they agreed to this is different, but once again we don't and probably will never know..

What if they did know but were utterly against it but were outvoted?!


Once again, who knows?

What we do know for certain, 100% sure, is that the governing bodies, SFA, SPL etc etc are as bent and corrupt as they come, they should be hammered by the disagreeing public..

[Stevie Reid]

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The bottom line is that if some SPL clubs are that badly run that Rangers leaving the SPL would financially cripple them to be honest they should either go to the wall or into administration and that would just be tough. To use that as an excuse to carry out this perverted form of sporting integrity in the form of blackmailing, bullying and lying to SFL clubs is completely sickening. Rangers should be dealt with properly and then we will see what happens, clubs will need to cut their cloth accordingly and if that means going part time or worse that is just the way it goes. They will be replaced by other SFL teams and we go on.

As I was saying yesterday, if the clubs haven't learned their lesson after the collapse of SPL TV and Setanta, then they deserve all they get. We have suffered due to the length of time that we have been living strictly within our means, and would no doubt suffer even more from supporters understandably not wanting to watch a corrupt league.

Motherwell have just done the unthinkable in obtaining a Champions League qualifying place, yet we are told that they could be facing insolvency without the money that Rangers bring in? How poorly run are they, exactly?

They didn't suffer hugely from being in administration ten years ago, and are now not benefiting significantly from a CL qualifying place - yet they are supposed to be goosed completely without the money that Rangers bring in? Doesn't make sense.

Unbelievably depressing stuff.

[Lungo--Drom]

Like said a few 1000 posts ago, the SPL clubs who wish to uphold true sporting integrity should counter the morally corrupt pish spouting from Dungcaster & pals at the SPL by resigning from the SPL now and applying to an enlarged SFL. Yes any teams doing that would lose money but the way things are going right now they are going to lose money anyway. Lots of it.

[Bishop Hibee]

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Not necessarily. He may have voted against it but been outvoted. (Club statement last week hints at that by saying vote must take place and Hibs will still vote no) That is why it is important Hibs/Petrie make a statement.

The statement will go a long way to whether I continue going to Easter Road.

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Let the whole thing collapse, and the jobs that go with it sadly. Cure the cancer and start again, partying like its 1875.

Not such a bad idea. Hibernian Phoenix anyone

[Saorsa]

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Not necessarily. He may have voted against it but been outvoted. (Club statement last week hints at that by saying vote must take place and Hibs will still vote no) That is why it is important Hibs/Petrie make a statement.

All these people who spoke out about sporting integrity and voting no who then sat in silence while that 'piece of work' was distributed tae the SFL clubs are no everything they're cracking themselves up tae be IMO.

IMO they were either involved with it or gave it their tacit approval by no coming out and condemning it for the disgraceful piece of threatening blackmailing garbage it was.

[Spike Mandela]

The Clyde statement lays bare the intentions of Doncaster and his cronies. Really really sticks in my craw the "sporting integrity has no purchase" piffle Petrie spouted.

It is clear to me that the SFL members must vote against the div1 entry but allow div 3 entry then they can sit back and watch the liars and cheats at the SPL and SFA running around back tracking and u-turning on every rule, sanction and piece of integrity left to get newco where they want.

Let the SPL charlatans finally be truthful with their intentions including Petrie.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

[silverhibee]

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An astonishing statement from Clyde FC. Good on them for exposing full details of how Doncaster and Regan are behaving.



A clear threat from the SPL to the rest of Scottish Football. Allow our corrupt and immoral cartel to continue and accept our crumbs off the table - or we'll cut you adrift.

Utterly, utterly shocking.

It's as simple as that, a threat from the SPL, let the cheats back in or you become outcasts of Scottish football.

Bleeping unbelievable, can't believe i just read that on the Clyde FC.

Mad has a point, Scottish football is run by the SFA/SPL Mafia. Threats and bribes.

[s.a.m]

Gordon Waddell‏@GordonWaddellJust been told Application for share transfer to newco rejected. Tick tick tick...

[s.a.m]

Andrew Dickson‏@rfc_dicksonSPL clubs have 'voted overwhelmingly to reject' Rangers' application to join the top flight as a newco

[matty_f]

They've voted 'no'.!!

[degenerated]

Spl clubs vote no, now they should be hounding that fanny Doncaster out his job.

[ScottB]

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Really stupid question but, why can't any of these journalists actually do their job for once and contact the head honcho at SKY to see what's going on.

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Doncaster and co are the only ones who have spoken to them and therefore the only ones who know the truth. (Not that I would believe them as he wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in the face). He should be out there trying to get a replacement deal though rather than bullying SFL.

The Sun did, being the same company, and reported that. It was also the same information given to all Sky employees.

They have not said at any point that they would pull the plug and walk away. It's nonsense from Doncaster n co to try and keep Rangers as high up the league structure as possible.