Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Gatecrasher]

Doncaster can GTF

[StevieC]

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Douglas Fraser‏@BBCDouglsFraserNeil Doncaster tells #bbcradio4today "huge damage to other clubs if #Rangers go into 3rd division". Health of other clubs must be uppermost

This will be the "health" that other clubs have decided isn't uppermost, as they are voting NO.

[StevieC]

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I think either he goes or we go.

I'm already making my way to the cloakroom to get my jacket .. the DJ is going to have to put a pretty good song on for me to consider turning back and staying a bit longer.

[lapsedhibee]

Just looked up "craven" in the dictionary and, sure enough, there's a picture of Donkey "Neil" Doncaster.

[down-the-slope]

I am divided here...

On the one hand I want the vote to happen and the first part of natural justice to be applied..

However - delays are not good for Sevco 5088...more uncertainty to if / when / where they might play next season will crush their income streams...the Audi's deal and lack of ST renewals being signs of that...the longer it goes on the more they will struggle to reform.....

However the longer there is no conclusion to the overall issue the deeper the potential harm to the wider game...

Its a difficult one but what no one seems to be saying is that there WILL be damage to the game for a number of years...and the fall out could ripple out for some time WHICH ever outcome we find. The game is going to face financial challenges and we will need a different model financially for the game to emerge out the other side..youth development / reserve league and seeing clubs signed the finished article will become a thing of the past as we need to grow players and take risks on unknowns.....

[Jim44]

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So Scottish football is pretty much dead then.

At best it is totally meaningless. I'm cheesed off with the whole carry on. I'm getting to the stage where I wish FIFA and UEFA would come along and shut up shop and throw away the keys. Why they are standing back allowing this complete circus to drift on and on defeats me. I think Scottish football is bringing the game into disrepute.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Neil Doncaster: "Not viable."

FTFY.

[Brightside]

Its looking more and more like the end of Scottish football. Its been coming for years. This was a real chance to change the way football is run in this country from the ground up. Yes teams may have folded, but that means they should fold as they are obviously living beyond their means. You cant have a product which builds itself around 2 single players. Ignore all this sevco pish, if Rangers do end up in the SPL (1 or 2) then ive had it with so called scottish professional football. Its rotten to the core and the SPL and SFA have killed it. Football in this country is a joke, and the camels back is broken.

[matty_f]

The spl clubs have said which way they'll vote, why adjourn. What happens to Rangers after the vote is something they will all just have to deal with.
This is shaping up to be the biggest stitch-up in Scottish football's history. Those responsible must be forced out the game.
What an utter shambles. Not one of the game's leaders is emerging from this with any semblance of integrity or reputation intact.

[bawheid]

If Neil Doncaster's head is not on a stick above Hampden Park by the end of this sorry saga then something will have gone badly wrong.

Get him tae ****!!!!!!!

[degenerated]

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At best it is totally meaningless. I'm cheesed off with the whole carry on. I'm getting to the stage where I wish FIFA and UEFA would come along and shut up shop and throw away the keys. Why they are standing back allowing this complete circus to drift on and on defeats me. I think Scottish football is bringing the game into disrepute.

It's the actions of a Doncaster & regan that are bringing the game into disrepute. They're using the media in way goebells would have been proud of to help them do it as well.

[degenerated]

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The spl clubs have said which way they'll vote, why adjourn. What happens to Rangers after the vote is something they will all just have to deal with.
This is shaping up to be the biggest stitch-up in Scottish football's history. Those responsible must be forced out the game.
What an utter shambles. Not one of the game's leaders is emerging from this with any semblance of integrity or reputation intact.

The only people that will be forced out are those, like a large number of us here, that perhaps naively put some stock in unfashionable and outdated values such as the Corinthian spirit.

[JimBHibees]

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The spl clubs have said which way they'll vote, why adjourn. What happens to Rangers after the vote is something they will all just have to deal with.
This is shaping up to be the biggest stitch-up in Scottish football's history. Those responsible must be forced out the game.
What an utter shambles. Not one of the game's leaders is emerging from this with any semblance of integrity or reputation intact.

Completely agree the secret meetings and blatant lying that has been allowed to come out of this whole process is incredible. It to me has all the hallmarks of Celtc with a few weasel clubs bottling it. The silence from Celtc says it all to me and they are power brokers behind the scene stirring it as much as possible. It is up to our club and others to stand up to the extortion and threats and get this sorted once and for all. There is no reason for a delay in todays vote and it should go ahead. As the Hibs statement of last week said we intend to vote No and if that vote is carried then it is for other bodies to decide their fate. What has changed for that not to be the case now?

In which other country apart from Scotland would a team who has blatantly cheated be getting treated much more favourably than any other? Absolutely as bent as it comes.

[IWasThere2016]

Its the end of the world as we know it.

Back to the Juniors and a few more trips to the EPL/SFL for me.

[Saorsa]

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I'm already making my way to the cloakroom to get my jacket .. the DJ is going to have to put a pretty good song on for me to consider turning back and staying a bit longer.

[Kojock]

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Ross Dunbar‏@rossdunbar93@STVGrant Neil Doncaster said it is either SPL with sanctions, or First Division.

If thats the case then after 47yrs of following Hibs and spending thousands of pounds in the process, Im afraid Im out. Theres no point anymore.

[blackpoolhibs]

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If thats the case then after 47yrs of following Hibs and spending thousands of pounds in the process, Im afraid Im out. Theres no point anymore.

Me too pal, it looks like belgium on the 18th could be my last game watching Hibs?

[1875 NO 1]

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Ross Dunbar‏@rossdunbar93@STVGrant Neil Doncaster said it is either SPL with sanctions, or First Division.

Noty sure how he can deliver that when its the individual clubs decide via a vote

[bythecringe]

I heard Doncaster spraffing this morning on 5 live radio. It seems clear that no vote will be taken at the SPL meeting on Sevco until the SPL know which way the SFL will swing. Hopefully when the SFL meet (can't remember when their next meeting has been called) they will also defer their vote until the SPL position is clear. After all, the SFL vote would be unnecessary if Sevco are voted into SPL. This would drag out the sorry episode until either it is too late for Sevco to join any league or until the SPL have to take a decision. Now that would be a red letter day but don't hold your breath.

[Aldo]

The rats continue to desert that continuing sinking ship that is HMRC Newco with Naismith signing a new 4 year deal at Toffees and fleck off tae Coventry

[SneakersO'Toole]

If SPL chairmen delay the vote today, what message does that send out?

To the SFL, it is basically saying "here you go, its our problem but we don't have the guts to go through with it so you can deal with it".

To the fans, it tells me we have been lied, cheated and basically our views have put last in the pecking order when it comes to any decision.

I've got one foot out the door of ER. There had better be some incisive decision making made very soon or I'll be locking the door behind me for good. I actually can't believe it has come to this. Gobsmacked and disgusted.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Noty sure how he can deliver that when its the individual clubs decide via a vote

His constant brain washing of people is ridiculous, he's flouted every rule in the book, yet nobody seems to be asking why or how he can get away with this?

This is corruption right in front of everyone's eyes.

[JimBHibees]

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His constant brain washing of people is ridiculous, he's flouted every rule in the book, yet nobody seems to be asking why or how he can get away with this?

This is corruption right in front of everyone's eyes.

You can only start to assume that he is carrying out the wishes of the SPL clubs if his apparently ridiculous comments are not checked in any way.

[LancsHibs]

Today when the meeting commences there should be call for a vote of no confiedence on this Doncaster clown and he should be told to GTF then the business can be concluded that everybody has attended for!!

[Jim44]

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You can only start to assume that he is carrying out the wishes of the SPL clubs if his apparently ridiculous comments are not checked in any way.

Exactly. Donncaster is the villain of the peace but the other weaklings are letting him rule the roost.

[Aldo]

I find it hard to comprehend why they've not just been punted already. Livi dumped Div 3... Yes the were in Admin twice... Dundee -25 points
Airdrie... Clydebank

It's when it suits the Suits .. If that makes sense. The SPL Doncaster Regan etc are making a rod for their own backs... In that any other club can turn round and say well look what you did fur Newco. .. 10 point deduction and dropped down to Div 1 (if that happens)

They wouldn't have a leg to stand on should another team go to the wire... Just give us what happened to them. They should be papped ENDOF and then a vote taken by SFL teams to see if they want them in.

[blackpoolhibs]

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You can only start to assume that he is carrying out the wishes of the SPL clubs if his apparently ridiculous comments are not checked in any way.

That is true Jim, i'm hoping he is working on his own here, but if the SPL chairmen are behind him, then the game is ****ed completely? They would have lied to us all, and there's no way back for any of them.

[Saorsa]

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You can only start to assume that he is carrying out the wishes of the SPL clubs if his apparently ridiculous comments are not checked in any way.

Agree, it's also IMO why nothing was said by any of them about that 'piece of work' circulated around the SFL clubs. IMO they were either involved in that or at best tacitly approved of it.

As I said earlier I wonder if any of them were really voting NO or were they voting NO IF?....



...IF they could bully the SFL clubs in tae puting them in tae division 1. I guess we'll find out today whether there was any sort genuineness about it or if it'll be another one in the eye for 'sporting integrity ' no that there's any integrity left with any of these people now any way. If they dae the right thing now it'll be because they've been forced in tae it.

[1875 NO 1]

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Today when the meeting commences there should be call for a vote of no confiedence on this Doncaster clown and he should be told to GTF then the business can be concluded that everybody has attended for!!

We saw of mercer. The spirit of 1990 may need brought back to ged rid of this joker anybody else behind this. Be aware Petrie.

[Kojock]

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His constant brain washing of people is ridiculous, he's flouted every rule in the book, yet nobody seems to be asking why or how he can get away with this?

This is corruption right in front of everyone's eyes.

Thats what is totally p!ssing me off. Im not that fussed if Rangers are punished, remember the only punishment so far has been the 10 point deduction (which made no difference whatsoever)

All I ask for is that the rules that are in place are followed and Servco 5088 apply to join the SFL 3. If they do get in then I dont have a problem with that.

As I have said before. STICK TO THE F***ING RULES.