Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Newry Hibs]

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http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...ers-situation/

I have really grown to like several of the SFL clubs recently with their stance against what's going on here

East Fife say 'No' ..... according to todays Sportday live thing on BBC sport website.
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Scottish second division side East Fife have released a statement stating their belief newco Rangers should enter Scotland's third division at the start of the season.
"The board of directors of East Fife FC, however, is unanimous in its view that we shall not support any integrated plan that in our view compromises sporting integrity by involving the admission of any 'newco' directly into Division One," a statement on the club's website reads. "Any 'newco' must follow the normal application route into the bottom tier."

[John_the_angus_hibby]

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Talk about a bullet in the skull just to make sure they ared dead. This is getting more Tarantinoesque by the hour.

Ha, nice picture. Point well made and I know you are right, which is why I said justice will be how I feel when I see it, or when the dust settles. But, I am drawn to the dramatic side of this, can't help it and it is getting quite emotional. In a pretty complex and grey world this issue is allowing football fans in Scotland to stand on a clear platform of doing the right thing, or wanting the right thing and 'justice' to come to pass.

We may end up accepting grudgingly over time a grey, middle ground outcome. But from here it looks like a fudge and because we see an alternative is less appealing than it ever was.

But it's always nice to finish with a dramatic flurry, so ...

The next 24 hours will determine whether I share my love of the Hibernian experience with my grandchildren or not.

But if we sign Deano I'm ****ing there! :)

[alexedwards]

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Have Sky come out and said nothing's going to change anyway regardless of where the new club play ?

Believe it to be words to that effect but don't have a direct quote. Doncaster is scaremongering - we would require a direct quote from Sky to confirm their position. However, he does appear to be lying as Sky won't want to lose the Scottish subscriptions in any circumstance and would more than likely continue to support Scottish football.
IF Sky suggested differently they would be pretty much saying to viewers - "the sport we show is rigged."

[truehibernian]

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Have Sky come out and said nothing's going to change anyway regardless of where the new club play ?

I said this right at the start when ND banded about figures without backing up his claim. Show us the contract, the small print, and get a statement from Sky to back up your claims Neil ?

[CropleyWasGod]

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East Fife say 'No' ..... according to todays Sportday live thing on BBC sport website.
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Scottish second division side East Fife have released a statement stating their belief newco Rangers should enter Scotland's third division at the start of the season.
"The board of directors of East Fife FC, however, is unanimous in its view that we shall not support any integrated plan that in our view compromises sporting integrity by involving the admission of any 'newco' directly into Division One," a statement on the club's website reads. "Any 'newco' must follow the normal application route into the bottom tier."

Good old STV. Spinning the story again, and ignoring the facts.

East Fife say ANY NEWCO. They don't say "Rangers"

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Integrity and the Accies

Many rumours of cash payments in broon envelopes

there's a morally WRONG

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East Fife say 'No' ..... according to todays Sportday live thing on BBC sport website.
FOOTBALL
Scottish second division side East Fife have released a statement stating their belief newco Rangers should enter Scotland's third division at the start of the season.
"The board of directors of East Fife FC, however, is unanimous in its view that we shall not support any integrated plan that in our view compromises sporting integrity by involving the admission of any 'newco' directly into Division One," a statement on the club's website reads. "Any 'newco' must follow the normal application route into the bottom tier."

and there's a morally RIGHT

[PatHead]

"Green is accusing SPL chairmen of bowing to fan power instead of acting for the good of Scottish football. (Daily Express)"

And there was little old me thinking that football was for the benefit of fans not businessmen in it for a quick buck. Green seems to forget that if the decent thing is done fans will still be around long after he has gone.

[GreenCastle]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...ers-situation/

Video of Raith Director saying the SFA / SPL the game is corrupt

[JeMeSouviens]

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Neil Doncaster tells sfl that Sky, Espn and sport 5 deals at threat as contracts require RFC in spl in 2013/14 value 17.35 mill

Imagine signing up for that deal in the first place?

It hasn't been signed. He's talking about the new as yet unsigned £80M over 5 years deal that's support to start the season after next.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

If Newco did get into div 3 then no doubt Sportsound would suddenly start to broadcast live games with Chick Hun being the touchline reporter.

To mimick Kevin Keegans finest moment - "I would love it, LOVE IT if they went to Div 3 and failed to get promoted"

[Sir David Gray]

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http://www.stranraerfc.org/

Now that's a statement.

Fantastic statement there from Stranraer and I just hope that other clubs at that level come out with a similar stance over the coming days.

There should be no way that Rangers are playing in anything other than the third division next season and if that ends up not being the case then it would be nothing short of a disgrace.

[Andy74]

I still can't get my head round the SPL Chairmen all coming out and saying no to the SPL and then seemingly taking the lead on trying to get them accepted to SFL1.

Are we quite sure on where this came from and how it's being led?

Rangers themsleves seem to have gone quite quiet on it all.

[Hibstrooper]

I don't know if this has been covered in any of the 522 pages so far however I think more pressure needs to be put onto the BBC for a fair and equal division of spend to support the national game. All the recent panic around Rangers is all to do with TV money. We aren't going to get close to the English Sky deal however as we all contribute to BBC via our license fees I think we are right to question why they aren't supporting the game in Scotland to the same extent they are down South.

They've recently renewed their MOD rights for £180m (that's no live games, just a highlights package) on top of £15m a year for Championship games and highlights.

Assuming that the MOD rights are for 3 years that's £75m a year they are pumping into the English game on top of the ludicrous Sky and BT deal.

Does anyone know the figures of what they are contributing to the Scottish game, I doubt it is £7.5million a year which would give us a representative share and surely go someway to combatting some of the recent pressures/concerns.

[blackpoolhibs]

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It hasn't been signed. He's talking about the new as yet unsigned £80M over 5 years deal that's support to start the season after next.

Even worse, if signed we'd now know for certain Rangers must play SPL football no matter what?

[lord bunberry]

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http://www.stranraerfc.org/

Now that's a statement.

I almost forgive them for beating us in that game at er after reading that

[lyonhibs]

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Three things .

1. Gordon Brown the horse racing guy told me a story once when he worked for the Daily Record .There was a good Hamilton meeting on one night and Brown offered to write up a feature for the paper . "No room for it" was the response from the editor . "Ally McCoist is going and probably some other Old Firm players" said Brown . "Take a photographer with you" said the editor without blinking.

2. A decent sized paper or even a few will go to the wall in the next five years . Print media is on the way out and this smells like self preservation.

3. News International hacked a murdered teenage girls phone . Read that last sentence back .

Couldn't agree more with your last 2 points. The Scottish media, and certainly Scottish sports journalism and the hierarchy of the papers they work for are en route to being a self-inflicted bust flush. Can't come soon enough, so that we're left with actual newspapers who, agree or disagree with what the angle they take, are relatively intelligent/thought provoking and don't treat their readers like drooling, one celled amoebas.

[yeezus.]

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The STV news Edinburgh is a joke.

And now for your local news. Camera pans to outside ibex with the latest developments on rangers.

We don't even get local news - we get news from Newcastle and Dumfries.

[blackpoolhibs]

Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan

Stage 1 tick.

[hibs0666]

All this hassle seems to be about covering Doncaster's erse for agreeing a dreadful TV deal.

[JeMeSouviens]

Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence

Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan

[SurferRosa]

Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan

[green glory]

Reagan speaks some sense at least.

https://twitter.com/bbcjimspence/sta...28228302524416

[Monts]

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Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan

Stage 1 tick.

Petrie must've had a word with Regan

[rubber mal]

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Reagan speaks some sense at least.

https://twitter.com/bbcjimspence/sta...28228302524416

Can the Daily Record not over-rule the SFA though?

[alfie]

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Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan

Which is what we all agreed about 300 pages ago; Sevco dont meet the criteria for SPL anyway. And they wont for three years, so they might as well start in SFL3 (if the SFL will have them).

It appears they wont have the players or budget to play in the SPL either, but at least their stadium meets the criteria.

[adhibs]

hope this news isnt to soften us up before the blow that they'l allow them in the first. i just dont trust those running the game one bit

[lord bunberry]

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http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...ers-situation/

Video of Raith Director saying the SFA / SPL the game is corrupt

there's not a lot you can add to that well.said that man

[LeighLoyal]

Div 3 is the place for the new hun. They can't be sanctioned for Rangers FC's crimes because they are not Rangers FC, they are a new club with no history that happens to play at the same stadium. There is a structure in place that allows them to apply for SFL membership in Div 3. Any attempt to leverage them into SFL 1 would spell the end of Scottish football as a league based on sport. RFC ran up £140m of debts and liquidated (died!) to avoid payment and the newco (new club) should not benefit from that disgraceful event.

[StevieC]

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Neil Doncaster tells sfl that Sky, Espn and sport 5 deals at threat as contracts require RFC in spl in 2013/14 value 17.35 mill

Imagine signing up for that deal in the first place?

Exactly. Doncaster should be emptied for that mistake alone.

The thing is though, the £17m is the SPL's loss. The SFL chairmen will have a wry smile and thinking "nae luck".

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Can the Daily Record not over-rule the SFA though?

no, but sally McCoist can