Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Onion]

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If this does go through, it's sporting integrity AT A PRICE.

Was starting to get a wee bit interest back in the game after last month's disaster. I actually felt a bit of pride, not in Rod and Hibs but in the other clubs too that stood up to this horrible institution that is the cheating bigot fest. Now, I feel sold down the river and don't see the point in bothering anymore.

Why don't we just bend over and ask the OF to draw up all rules that they want us to play under and just get on with letting them shaft us? Let's give them a percentage of the gate money when the visit away grounds, say 50% of their travelling support, and ask what else they would like.

This better be more nonsense from the BBC or whoever or it's the end game for me instead of newhunco.

Now you can understand why so many clubs were comfortable saying No to the SPL vote, they already knew there was a compromise position in the offing. IMHO this is deceitful, shameful and despicable behaviour - you talk about Rangers cheating ?. Hibs and the other 5 who stated their intentions must have known all about this Div 1 stitch up, but not a hint of it, except from the Dons. If this goes through all the SPL clubs will rightly be vilified for it. The SFL & SPL clubs MUST oppose this latest stitch-up. Jees, they are all as slippery as 3rd car salesmen

[ScottB]

Can see this happening as I doubt most of the SPL clubs will survive the season if the fans anger and threats come to fruition.

[Cabbage East]

Glad I haven't stumped up my 400 sheets yet. If, and it's still an if, Hibs are in on this then they can say goodbye to my hard earned and, more importantly, my support.

[Waxy]

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I did say "IF"...

Haha yep i knew you knew.Me in rant mode just now.I'm scared to be honest.Because if this goes through,i'll never see Hibs again

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

I would rather Petrie spent his time working to make Hibs a better club and looking to make improvements to the playing staff than trying to engineer a morally and financially corrupt club's entry into SFL D1.

If he is trying to help the newhuns out then he should resign from Hibs IMO.

[Jim44]

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We have seen the document suggesting that Rangers may well be placed in Division one as a Newco.

Now we are not as yet thinking it is a done deal or that the member clubs of the SPL have made a plan but if they have Mr Petrie and Hibs are a team involved then I think we might see far worse repercutions than the impact of no Rangers.

Time you stood up and started counting the views on here which clearly show the rules in place should be the ones that are used. what is frightning is some Hibbies on here who I know go week in week out are going to chuck it, I am going to chuck it, Hibs will lose far more by agreeing to any sort of change to division one.

My order for the new top is on hold, lots of STs are on hold this site doesnt claim to speak for the entire support but as any survey you ask a group anda fairly large group is sitting on here. The Hibs support are actually disgusted at the proposal.

You and I both know Hibs would never get the chance to just drop 1 league, we would be starting in 3rd you know it and we all on here know it.

Bottom line though it is conjecture and what the support will do is conjecture we will wait and see but if it turns out you are not in favour of such a proposal then you can stand by your integrity statement, if this is happening then I think you will have no integrity with me and probably many of the support.

This website has never seen so many people who argue about managers, tactics and players all pull together with almost the same views, there are some serious ST holders looking at calling it. This is not a case of having a go it is just to let you understand the depth of feeling over this, if your mantra is full punishment we will stand up and be counted with you and a 100% clear concience.

If nowt to do with you or Hibs then please get involved in making sure the integrity you spoke of is carried out to letter to best you can.

Sadly, I think we'll find out in the next few days that Petrie and the rest of the doormats are fully behind these proposals. I am disgusted that their unprincipled greed has led to the possible/probable rejection of the club and the game in general by a huge number of supporters. But why take the passive route and walk away? Why not fight back at these shysters and actively campaign for their resignation?

[1875 NO 1]

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Can see this happening as I doubt most of the SPL clubs will survive the season if the fans anger and threats come to fruition.

If the doomsday huns scenario comes true - would you support getting a new hibs?

[blackpoolhibs]

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Yep - this carve up will kill Scottish football stone dead

I agree, it will stumble along for a while with those who will go no matter how much they are cheated, but in the end more and more will drift away.

I hope the people responsible for this are happy with themselves.

The new ground we are all proud of, will have games played in front of a couple of thousand folk packed in the bottom tier of the FF.

[Steve20]

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Disgusted at this latest news, I have watched Hibs for 48 years but this is worse than any defeat. I have already bought two season tickets for my sons but that will be my last contribution to Hibs if we vote Rangers in to the 1st division.

The humiliation of the cup final last month is so much worse than Rangers getting into the 1st Division.

[lord bunberry]

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Not all that disgusted then. Even tho' your club is being run by a sycophantic, money-grabbing, unprincipled doormat, like nearly all the other SPL chairmen. Ironically, Michael Johnston of Killie, who has been pilloried for speaking up for leniency for Rangers, in my mind comes out of this charade with the most credibility. At least he didn't hide behind the sham of pretending to stand up to Rangers.

as i said in another post im starting to have my doubts. i always thought thr right thing would be done and rangers would end up in division 3. if they end up in division 1 i will find it hard to justify going back they may as well just vote them into the spl

[oneone73]

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Glad I haven't stumped up my 400 sheetsop yet. If, and it's still an if, Hibs are in on this then they can say goodbye to my hard earned and, more importantly, my support.

I'm out too, after nearly 50 years following Hibs. Sad, sad day

[WhileTheChief..]

Thinking more about it, there is no way that RP can be part of this. He would know full well that everybody would be against it. Now that Milne has made his statement I reckon we will see similar from Hibs and Hearts tomorrow.

Even Rangers fan's don't want this. In fairness to them they pretty much seem to accept that div 3 is where they should go. Go to div3 as a new club and start form scratch and build up a bit of dignity. Anything else and Scottish football as we know it dies.

[bighairyfaeleith]

Right, I think the general consensus is that everyone is raging, so who do we vent this fury at, who do we tell our opinions to?

Stick the email addresses in this thread of everyone we should be emailing to complain.

I'll get it started with

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

Anyone got any SFA addresses, preferrably Regans?

Don't forget your councillors and MSP's

[Spike Mandela]

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The humiliation of the cup final last month is so much worse than Rangers getting into the 1st Division.

Correct but put the two together so soon and somebody is seriously taking the piss out of Hibs fans.

[Ozyhibby]

I don't see this plan happening but just in case, I would like to let Hibs know that if the rules are bent to help sevco then I will never spend another penny on Hibs. I currently spend about £600 per year (1 adult, 2kids + strips etc). If Hibs allow this then they will have to do without my money.

[Hibs7]

Is accepted and the Rangers Newco are admitted to the new first division, then ALL honest supporters should boycott ALL the first games of the season.
Hardly anybody showing up would send a clear message that the fans do not accept this.
Any other clubs supporters reading this and thinking the same .... spread the word.

[InchHibby]

I have been a Season Ticket holder for nearly thirty years and if these proposals go through then I will be seriously thinking about throwing the towel in as far as Scottish Football is concerned.
This is a total stitch up by all clubs including Hibs and what makes it worse they had the audacity to come out and say they would be voting NO to a Newco getting into the SPL, knowing full well what had been previously agreed.
Only one punishment will do for me and that is for the Newco to start again from the bottom and even then to go through the proper channels by applying to gain entry.
The game in Scotland has been a laughing stock for years now and it will be an even bigger laughing stock after this debacle.
Football should never get into a position like what we have with two teams competing for the top two places year in year out and the one time we have a real chance for change we sell our selves down the river because of a few threats from the West Coast and few shillings.
We seem to forget that we were threatened with boycotts from this same mob and I can assure you of this their fans will not forget and they will love nothing better than for other clubs to go to the wall but this time those at the top won't give a rats ass as they could not give a toss who the other ten clubs are as long as the Glasgow two are there.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I very much agree with Carlberg's OP. SFL 1 for the Newco will cost every other club fans and money. It isn't an idle threat. If this proposal goes ahead, Scotland's clubs need to be prepared for detrimental consequences and not just expect benefits alone. But will they care if on balance they make more than they lose from it?

[grunt]

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If it's not true, I am sure someone will very quickly come out and say so tomorrow.

It's true.

[lord bunberry]

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Latest developments and the reluctance to kick Huns out of the league, shows what the SFA \ SPL think of the fans. And non old firm teams.

If you don't want to be part of a corrupt Scottish Fitba. I believe there is an alternative.

Pissed off fans should start a breakaway club. A new national league. Out of SFA control.

A new Hibs playing out of Meadowbank. A share in the new club would cost £10. Space for everybody.

Yeah it won't be easy. It wasnt easy back in 1875. Problems back then - bigotry and cheating. Nothing has changed and the year is 2012.

Hibs belongs to the fans. Not farmer and petrie.

i hope it never comes to this but if the right thing isnt done with rangers then i think its a great idea we would still be hibees and get our football fix every saturday

[18/03/07]

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Disgusted at this latest news, I have watched Hibs for 48 years but this is worse than any defeat. I have already bought two season tickets for my sons but that will be my last contribution to Hibs if we vote Rangers in to the 1st division.

This is my view as well

[bighairyfaeleith]

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The humiliation of the cup final last month is so much worse than Rangers getting into the 1st Division.

The cup final wasn't enough to stop me going to watch hibs!!

[Cabbage East]

A petition has started. Get it signed.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/s...ampaign=button

[ScottB]

What would the point be? Once they've done this, it's done. Folk skipping a game won't make them suddenly kick the newco to SFL3.

If they do this, they do it in full knowledge that fans have threaten to not go back. They are calling our bluffs, hoping we will **** and moan but give in in the end and just go back.

No thanks.

[Hibs7]

Quite clear, a boycott.

[ANDY McGEECHAN]

Count me out as-well Mr Petrie, Newco 1st Div = NO RENEWAL. and its bye bye from me after 45 years.

[adhibs]

realy cant see an email to any of they addresses making one bit of difference to who they reach, good on people if they want to try tho. Id say the only hope in this mess is for uefa or fifa to get involved but dunno if theve got previous of doing so in a situation like this

[Hibs7]

All right then just do nothing and get rogered again.

Is it any wonder they can do as they please with these attitudes.

[Waxy]

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Is accepted and the Rangers Newco are admitted to the new first division, then ALL honest supporters should boycott ALL the first games of the season.
Hardly anybody showing up would send a clear message that the fans do not accept this.
Any other clubs supporters reading this and thinking the same .... spread the word.

Boycott? You wont have to worry about the first match....or the second match.......or any matches.If you can call them matches.Thousands will not come back.

[Off the bar]

This new div 1 plan is bs, just when it looked like the right thing was being done and that there was a real sense of togetherness and positivity among fans, perhaps a sense of trepidation but definate optimism, they come out with this.
Shower of ****s, total stitch up, disgrace, one big **** you to the fans.
If true, then f you Petrie f you newco and f you Scottish football.
Sorry for all the effing and jeffing but Jesus titty f Ing Christ, have they not listened to one thing the fans have said?
W A N K E R S
so so angry right now ( just got online and caught up on the last 5 pages if this thread)