Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[HH81]

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Me too but these:

http://www.froyopad.com/ployer-momo9...qtd8g1npn8hfb2

are cheaper and a guy at my work bought two and said they are crackin kit. £18 postage from Hong Kong plus £9 VAT.

How much are they in £'s? look quite smart.

[Cameron1875]

If you think about it, its actually quite funny how they think they will just get away with it. Its time for fans to forget petty rivalries and come together an ensure we boycott the game. Imagine the message it would send out if the first game at tannadice is completely empty.

We need to find out exactly whats going on, i might get abuse for this but if it generally is Petrie behind this then I have no idea whats going to happen to the club as surely people won't buy the new kits and season tickets. Hopefully the SFL clubs stand strong and aren't fearful of this threat of SPL2 nonsense!

[bighairyfaeleith]

I have just sent my thoughts to Rod.

My next step is to bypass the SFA and go straight to UEFA and FIFA.

We need thousands of fans to be doing the same thing. This must not be allowed to happen.

I will be finished with the scottish game if this happens, I will never give another penny to sky either. But first I'm going to do my best to make sure the money men know they have had a fight and not got away with this one easily.

The spartans could benefit massively from this if it's all true.

[Eyrie]

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I wonder whether this story and document has been deliberately leaked to provoke a reaction?

It's certainly managed that. If it was to test the water then they've got a clear answer.

Seriously bleeped off when I read of Petrie's involvement, and the only way this proposal can be acceptable is if Sevco 5088 is banned from promotion for the next two years.

Couple of other thoughts though - surely the SFA can refuse to recognise a breakaway SPL2? And there is still hope that the SFL clubs can save the day. Not only by voting to put Sevco 5088 into Division 3, but by then refusing to join a SPL2 whilst simultaneously demanding that the proposed changes go ahead without the Sevco 5088 parts.

[HFC 0-7]

That document is a shocker.

"Scottish Government Remain Committed to our Community Strategy" - So they wont if Rangers are punished and have to apply to division 3?

"A Positive Media Outcome" - So we need to appease the media? If so we are doing things for the wrong people.

This is shocking, in some ways its even worse than the vote to get into the SPL. The SPL vote has failed so they now go somewhere else, bribe them with implications if they dont say yes, and also bribe them with a money offer. Immediate Cash Benefit for all 30 clubs ! ​What sort of statement is that.

[shezer]

It can't be true.Lies.That document has to be a load of bollocks.

[blackpoolhibs]

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If you think about it, its actually quite funny how they think they will just get away with it. Its time for fans to forget petty rivalries and come together an ensure we boycott the game. Imagine the message it would send out if the first game at tannadice is completely empty.

We need to find out exactly whats going on, i might get abuse for this but if it generally is Petrie behind this then I have no idea whats going to happen to the club as surely people won't buy the new kits and season tickets. Hopefully the SFL clubs stand strong and aren't fearful of this threat of SPL2 nonsense!

Wont happen, some folk will watch corrupt football , but still moan about sporting integrity?

Will those same folk moan about those who have given up, and moan about the standard of footballer they are watching, or part time football too?

[ScottB]

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If you think about it, its actually quite funny how they think they will just get away with it. Its time for fans to forget petty rivalries and come together an ensure we boycott the game. Imagine the message it would send out if the first game at tannadice is completely empty.

We need to find out exactly whats going on, i might get abuse for this but if it generally is Petrie behind this then I have no idea whats going to happen to the club as surely people won't buy the new kits and season tickets. Hopefully the SFL clubs stand strong and aren't fearful of this threat of SPL2 nonsense!

Once the season begins, it's too late. They won't change anything once it's underway.

The fans across the country have been clear; 'No to newco in the SPL' without question. The Chairmen have instead tried to find a way to have their cake and eat it, and hope that we will all just moan a bit and go back like the sheep with money they expect us to be.

I'd almost have more respect for them if they'd just came out and made their case for letting the newco in, this nonsense of on the one hand telling the fans what we want to hear with all the chat of integrity, while with the other pointing a gun at the SFL and forcing them to the dirty work for them is for me, possibly even worse.

They are showing they think we are all a bunch of mugs who will carry on pumping the money in regardless of what they do.

[HFC 0-7]

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Ach ........ I'm getting fed up of the whole thing to be honest, as things stand at the moment I couldnt care less if The Rangers or whatever they want to call themselves are in the SPL or the Greasy Joe's pub league Glasgow next season.

If The Rangers are in div 1 and thousands of fans quit Scottish football as a result then the joke really will be on us in the end. Instead of their cheating destroying the game here ... which has now been outed and put a stop to ... we will do the job for them, because footballs idea of what constitutes a fitting punishment wasnt enough for us.

One day I can see myself driving past ER looking at the rusty padlocks holding the gates shut and the big for sale signs and saying to myself, the fans were right to stay away, that will teach those hun loving gits at Hibs.


Cheers

Thats not the case, its the fact that the SPL and SFA rules which are in place are being bypassed to allow Rangers to get off lighter than their rules state. This isnt a case of fans wanting them punished more than the rules state, its the fans wanting the authorities to carry out those rules. They are even bribing and blackmailing now which is shocking. Whats the point of supporting a game run by bodies that will not carry out punishments, change rules to help one club, completely restructure the game just for one club and ignore everyone else?

[tamig]

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UEFA Rules.

If that's the case then, why was a vote set up? Surely if this UEFA rule exists there was no way they could play in the SPL? First I've heard of this one.

[bighairyfaeleith]

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That document is a shocker.

"Scottish Government Remain Committed to our Community Strategy" - So they wont if Rangers are punished and have to apply to division 3?

"A Positive Media Outcome" - So we need to appease the media? If so we are doing things for the wrong people.

This is shocking, in some ways its even worse than the vote to get into the SPL. The SPL vote has failed so they now go somewhere else, bribe them with implications if they dont say yes, and also bribe them with a money offer. Immediate Cash Benefit for all 30 clubs ! ​What sort of statement is that.

Exactly!!

Sporting integrity does not just apply to the SPL and the idea that clubs in the lower leagues should be forced to accept this is abhorrent and completely unsporting. FIFA need to act if this happens. Time for the SFA to be disbanded and a whole new setup in scotland to be put in place.

[s.a.m]

Tony McKelvie‏@TonyMcKelvieAccording to SFL per http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/108463-in-full-document-sent-to-sfl-clubs-to-put-rangers-into-the-first-division/ the Game will meltdown if RFC is punished for its many scandals. If true, melt it. It's worthless!

[lord bunberry]

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Now they are (allegedly) threatening to blackmail the SFL teams:

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...rangers-plans/

If true, it is a disgrace - all to save the cheating Huns. And the SPL chairmen are a bunch of snakes if they have even contemplated this in the circumstances.

If anything, this whole Newco scenario has brought the non-Old Firm fans together.

I have to say I'm utterly disgusted after reading that. I've always maintained I will still go and support my club no mater what but I can see why people want to walk away

[Coco Bryce]

If all this is true its all over for me and my laddie. I'll take him to rugby or some other respectable sport.

[Coco Bryce]

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I have to say I'm utterly disgusted after reading that. I've always maintained I will still go and support my club no mater what but I can see why people want to walk away

But not disgusted enough to do anything about it though?

[ScottB]

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Tony McKelvie‏@TonyMcKelvieAccording to SFL per http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/108463-in-full-document-sent-to-sfl-clubs-to-put-rangers-into-the-first-division/ the Game will meltdown if RFC is punished for its many scandals. If true, melt it. It's worthless!

Do it now as a choice or it'll happen anyway when the vast majority of the fans decide to do something better with their money.

[Spike Mandela]

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Let's all take a breath...once we get some facts we can then decide on right, wrongs and actions..other forums are saying the same stuff but only because they are getting info from the same places..then looking at sites (like ours) that will back up what they have read...we don't know for a fact any of this is true, most of the stories are coming from sources who have been very wrong in the past

Are you suggesting STV are lying about the document in their possession? They have printed it verbatim, surely that would be a lie of PRAVDA proportions.

[WhileTheChief..]

On the Aberdeen website tonight -

Following the BBC report today in regards to plans for Rangers NewCo to enter Division One Chairman Stewart Milne stated:


"The statement that I issued on Monday was both clear and unambiguous and for the avoidance of any doubt I will restate it. Rangers NewCo should apply to the SFA for admission and apply direct to the SFL in the same way that any other new club would do. This is and remains our club's absolute position."

C'mon Rod, what you got to say????

[lord bunberry]

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But not disgusted enough to do anything about it though?

im starting to have my doubts maybe i will go and watch edinburgh city next season

[tamsonsbairn]

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im starting to have my doubts maybe i will go and watch edinburgh city next season

Aye, I can see Craigroyston getting one more supporter if this is true.

[1875 NO 1]

Latest developments and the slowness to kick the huns out of fitba.

Time for change.

Hibs fans to start a new Hibs playing out of Meadowbank.

Fans off other disgruntled clubs could start their own team. A national competition free from greed and the SFA.

Wimbledon and Man u fans shown it can be done.

It may sound a pipe dream but back in 1875 it wasn't easy to get our club formed. The same cheating that exsisted back then still exsists now.

Time for change.

Each share in the new club would be £10. Room for all pissed off Hibs Fans.

The fans are Hibs. Not Farmer and Petrie.

Time to be brave. It won't be easy but Scottish Fitba is about to die.

[Westie1875]

If this goes ahead I will be really angry with our club and the rest of them (assuming they support it) and will be asking for a refund on my season ticket.

How can they be so far removed from how the fans of nearly all of the clubs feel to think that this will wash?

Utterly disgusting IMO, there is absolutely no point in having a rule book if you are going to rip it up and start again just to save one club. Lets not forget they (the SPHell) have been telling us for months that restructuring is not plausible as they can't find a solution to suit everyone, now all of a sudden they can sort it all out before the start of the season??? If this goes through it will cost them more money than binning Sevco to division 3 would IMO with the number of fans deciding to give it up.

[easty]

After reading that STV thing I want to change my poll vote from option 2 to option 1.

Farce of a football association in this country. I'm embarrassed.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Are you suggesting STV are lying about the document in their possession? They have printed it verbatim, surely that would be a lie of PRAVDA proportions.

I don't doubt its veracity. I think it has been leaked to the media by people who are opposed to it, because they know it will cause a reaction. If you were in favour of this you would try to keep this as secret as possible. We don't need a lot of opposition to stop it. The SPL needs an 11-1 majority to pass the resolutions involved (playoffs, financial distribution). The SFL needs a 23-7 majority to pass their resolutions. Keep up the pressure and I think this plan (like previous ones) will fail.

[Waxy]

I'd like to know exactly the names of the people who made this statement up.
Livid.Gutted.Clearly the Huns still have people in power.

[adhibs]

this must have the support of the clubs or it wouldnt have been releasd today. well done to aberdeen for sticking to what the fans want

[Captain Trips]

We have seen the document suggesting that Rangers may well be placed in Division one as a Newco.

Now we are not as yet thinking it is a done deal or that the member clubs of the SPL have made a plan but if they have Mr Petrie and Hibs are a team involved then I think we might see far worse repercutions than the impact of no Rangers.

Time you stood up and started counting the views on here which clearly show the rules in place should be the ones that are used. what is frightning is some Hibbies on here who I know go week in week out are going to chuck it, I am going to chuck it, Hibs will lose far more by agreeing to any sort of change to division one.

My order for the new top is on hold, lots of STs are on hold this site doesnt claim to speak for the entire support but as any survey you ask a group anda fairly large group is sitting on here. The Hibs support are actually disgusted at the proposal.

You and I both know Hibs would never get the chance to just drop 1 league, we would be starting in 3rd you know it and we all on here know it.

Bottom line though it is conjecture and what the support will do is conjecture we will wait and see but if it turns out you are not in favour of such a proposal then you can stand by your integrity statement, if this is happening then I think you will have no integrity with me and probably many of the support.

This website has never seen so many people who argue about managers, tactics and players all pull together with almost the same views, there are some serious ST holders looking at calling it. This is not a case of having a go it is just to let you understand the depth of feeling over this, if your mantra is full punishment we will stand up and be counted with you and a 100% clear concience.

If nowt to do with you or Hibs then please get involved in making sure the integrity you spoke of is carried out to letter to best you can.

[Waxy]

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this mustve have the support of the clubs or it wouldnt have been releasd today. well done to aberdeen for sticking to what the fans want

Yep probably because Sevco people are offering riches to certain people.and yes,well done the sheep

[Jim44]

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I have to say I'm utterly disgusted after reading that. I've always maintained I will still go and support my club no mater what but I can see why people want to walk away

Not all that disgusted then. Even tho' your club is being run by a sycophantic, money-grabbing, unprincipled doormat, like nearly all the other SPL chairmen. Ironically, Michael Johnston of Killie, who has been pilloried for speaking up for leniency for Rangers, in my mind comes out of this charade with the most credibility. At least he didn't hide behind the sham of pretending to stand up to Rangers.

[The Green Goblin]

You would think that if any of this was nonsense, the parties involved and named would be falling over themselves to make a statement or hold a press conference to say so.