Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

**~~Saorsa~~** · 28-06-2012 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

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Anyone watched the John Brown rant yet???

Pant wettingly funny.

got a link?

***stokesmessiah*** · 28-06-2012 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Desperate Dan

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got a link?

Make yourself a nice bug mug of tea and get out the biccies and enjoy this....http://yfrog.com/f26h0z

***Moulin Yarns*** · 28-06-2012 09:12 AM

Here's a thought.

The outcome of the proposed vote next week on whether Newco Rangers should be allowed into the SPL is known, a big fat NO. So, why not change the vote to

Who should take the place in the SPL vacated by Rangers (IA)?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 28-06-2012 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Pitlochry hibee

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Here's a thought.

The outcome of the proposed vote next week on whether Newco Rangers should be allowed into the SPL is known, a big fat NO. So, why not change the vote to

Who should take the place in the SPL vacated by Rangers (IA)?

Because the vote is on an application by Newco. It has to be formally taken.

Once that has happened, then your question may be relevant.

**Twa Cairpets** · 28-06-2012 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by SANDY Fanny baws JARDINE on official Hun website

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Sandy Jardine has reiterated that there is no break Rangers' long and illustrious history.

Fans have been angered by jibes from some quarters and completely ill-informed reporting that there is a 'new' Rangers and the 'old' one has ceased to exist.

Jardine said: "It's a lot of nonsense that our history does not carry on. There are a lot of other fans out there saying that we are a new club but that's not the case.

"We never worried about what other supporters said in the past and we shouldn't worry about what other supporters say now.

"What matters is what Rangers supporters think.

"We are a club with 140 years of history and next year we will be a club with 141 years of history.

"If and when we win another Championship flag we will add it to the 54 we already have."

Speaking on RangersTV, Jardine said: "Whatever league we will be playing in we will still be playing in the same stadium, we will still be playing in a blue shirt.

"We will have the same supporters and the same staff. Nothing has changed and people have to realise that.

"We have a Hall of Fame board recognising our greatest players and I have no doubt that in the future other players will be added to it and they will be delighted to be among greats like Davie Meiklejohn, George Young and John Greig.

"This fallacy that our history has ended is just banter from other supporters and some of our fans have taken the bait. They should just ignore it.

"We have a rich history - Barcelona, Nine in a Row, 54 league titles - are we going to forget that? I don't think so."

What a total fud.

Also, I asked this a few pages back, but who is running the "offiicial" Ranger site? If its oldco, why the hell are they incurring cost.
If its the newco (or one of them), why are they still claiming to be a football team called rangers with a badge with 5 stars. they aren't that club. It doesnt exist Sandy boy.

***s.a.m*** · 28-06-2012 09:29 AM

Police have just arrived and gone into ‪#Rangers‬ Murray Park pic.twitter.com/kUEJOlyE

(Tweeted by Gordon Chree)

**green glory** · 28-06-2012 09:33 AM

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Police have just arrived and gone into ‪#Rangers‬ Murray Park pic.twitter.com/kUEJOlyE

(Tweeted by Gordon Chree)

Hopefully arresting Sally as part of the ongoing investigation.

**~~Saorsa~~** · 28-06-2012 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

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Make yourself a nice bug mug of tea and get out the biccies and enjoy this....http://yfrog.com/f26h0z

cheers

and

***Sylar*** · 28-06-2012 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets

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What a total fud.

Also, I asked this a few pages back, but who is running the "offiicial" Ranger site? If its oldco, why the hell are they incurring cost.
If its the newco (or one of them), why are they still claiming to be a football team called rangers with a badge with 5 stars. they aren't that club. It doesnt exist Sandy boy.

That's fine Mr Jardine - if it's the same club, the same history, the same successes etc, you won't mind carrying over the debts and facing the appropriate sanctions for financial mismanagement.

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. It's either an entirely clean slate, or you face the music and deal with the mess your club and it's previous incumbents have made.

***CallumLaidlaw*** · 28-06-2012 09:43 AM

St mirren vote no to newco

***matty_f*** · 28-06-2012 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Story So Far...

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That's fine Mr Jardine - if it's the same club, the same history, the same successes etc, you won't mind carrying over the debts and facing the appropriate sanctions for financial mismanagement.

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. It's either an entirely clean slate, or you face the music and deal with the mess your club and it's previous incumbents have made.

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Also, that money you reckoned you were entitled to yesterday (for the walk-away players), you really should show a bit of humilty and recognise that any money should really be heading to the folk that your old team bumped.

How can a club be so dispicable after only existing for a couple of weeks?!

**1875er** · 28-06-2012 09:56 AM

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:How can a club be so dispicable after only existing for a couple of weeks?!

Spot On.

***Caversham Green*** · 28-06-2012 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets

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What a total fud.

Also, I asked this a few pages back, but who is running the "offiicial" Ranger site? If its oldco, why the hell are they incurring cost.
If its the newco (or one of them), why are they still claiming to be a football team called rangers with a badge with 5 stars. they aren't that club. It doesnt exist Sandy boy.

Paul McConville asked the same thing - and why are Duff & Phelps still working at Ibrox? It no longer bolongs to their client company.

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...charles-green/

**jamieross** · 28-06-2012 10:01 AM

Wouldnt hold my breath for Alexander. Was reported to be at training http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/footbal...medium=twitter

**GreenCastle** · 28-06-2012 10:04 AM

10 players turn up for training - no manager there

Jane Lewis reporting "BBC Scotland has received details of plans being put in place to allow a #Rangers Newco to play in the 1st Division this season. "

Whoever has made these plans needs to be fired!

SFL clubs have already come out and said they don't want them in Div 1 - they are going to be lucky to even be playing in the SFL in just over a months time!

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 28-06-2012 10:05 AM

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Police have just arrived and gone into ‪#Rangers‬ Murray Park pic.twitter.com/kUEJOlyE

(Tweeted by Gordon Chree)

drafted in to make up squad numbers

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 28-06-2012 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by NJ Hibee

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10 players turn up for training - no manager there

Jane Lewis reporting "BBC Scotland has received details of plans being put in place to allow a #Rangers Newco to play in the 1st Division this season. "

it's just pre-fitness tests today and tomorrow(or sommit like that), training starts monday

***Hibbyradge*** · 28-06-2012 10:07 AM

"BBC Scotland has received details of plans being put in place to allow a #Rangers Newco to play in the 1st Division this season. "

**Gus Fring** · 28-06-2012 10:13 AM

BBC reporting the Huns will parachute into division 1.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

Disgusting and if true, I will have no further involvement in Scottish football.

***JimBHibees*** · 28-06-2012 10:14 AM

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"BBC Scotland has received details of plans being put in place to allow a #Rangers Newco to play in the 1st Division this season. "

If that happens the games a bogey I am afraid. Completely against any sporting integrity argument.

**~~LeighLoyal~~** · 28-06-2012 10:14 AM

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"BBC Scotland has received details of plans being put in place to allow a #Rangers Newco to play in the 1st Division this season. "

Better not!!!

Disgrace upon disgrace if allowed.

***JimBHibees*** · 28-06-2012 10:15 AM

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If a vote was to be held and Celtic voted against Newhun, the the result would be carnage on a scale we haven't seen before. Could it be that the other clubs have 'leaked' their intentions to avoid the vote even being held, thus avoiding the violence which will undoubtedly follow.

Completely agree the other clubs have tried to manage this news and to be fair have done so effectively thus far IMO.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 28-06-2012 10:15 AM

This is the important clause, IMO:-

All these changes have to be approved by SPL and SFL clubs over the next few days.

**Cabbage East** · 28-06-2012 10:18 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

If this happens then I'm not going back. I'm sick of these allowances being made for a club that cheated.

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 28-06-2012 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bajillions

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BBC reporting the Huns will parachute into division 1.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

Disgusting and if true, I will have no further involvement in Scottish football.

It is understood Rangers chief executive Green has been "briefed" by Hibernian chairman Rod Petrie on the plans to gain their approval

all those on here wanting a nighthood for RP should think again, and that goes for the other chairmen that have been getting plaudits the last few days, they want sporting integrity....but only if it's for one season

***Just Alf*** · 28-06-2012 10:21 AM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

If this happens then I'm not going back. I'm sick of these allowances being made for a club that cheated.

It is understood Rangers chief executive Green has been "briefed" by Hibernian chairman Rod Petrie on the plans to gain their approval

***CropleyWasGod*** · 28-06-2012 10:22 AM

The important clause, however is

"All these changes have to be approved by SPL and SFL clubs over the next few days."

**1875 NO 1** · 28-06-2012 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

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I think Traynor is right, up to a point.

If there is a deal to put Newco in Div 1, then sporting integrity is being served in name only. It would be a carve up.

However, he's a slaver to suggest Rangers would be put in Div 1 against their will.

That couldn't happen.

Also, if Rangers really want to start again in Div 3, why have they applied for the SPL?

I think huns will be back in the top division in a years time. Debt free. In a very very strong position to re build.

Fans are being taken for a ride. Its a carve up. Petrie and other chairman talk re sporting integrity but money is still over riding factor.

**northgreen24** · 28-06-2012 10:24 AM

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It is understood Rangers chief executive Green has been "briefed" by Hibernian chairman Rod Petrie on the plans to gain their approval

all those on here wanting a nighthood for RP should think again, and that goes for the other chairmen that have been getting plaudits the last few days, they want sporting integrity....but only if it's for one season

totally agree if this happens then all over for me. This could jsut be old news but if it happens then JT was correct re the sporting integrity being a smokescreen. if they start anywhere other than the bottom like every other club would then Scottish football is finished.......