Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[RyeSloan]

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Finally, someone has the balls to ask the question!! And Brown's not even a journalist.

Just what I was thinking!!

Will be very interesting to hear the answer!

[Phil D. Rolls]

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It would be worse than that - it would have been a deliberate pre-emptive "bleeding" and deception of fans of the other clubs by their chairmen, who will have told them to buy STs whilst knowing this deal was in place. I am going to think positively for now and hope this idea is nonsense and that they wouldn't do that to their own fans.

Can't be ruled out. It maybe explains Celtic's low profile - surely they have the most to lose out of this. IMO, there is far too much sense being spoken from people who have no track record of doing that.

[Peevemor]

If a vote was to be held and Celtic voted against Newhun, the the result would be carnage on a scale we haven't seen before. Could it be that the other clubs have 'leaked' their intentions to avoid the vote even being held, thus avoiding the violence which will undoubtedly follow.

[Spike Mandela]

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Just what I was thinking!!

Will be very interesting to hear the answer!

Why would Green answer? Even if he doesn't have anything to hide he is under no obligation to respond to John Brown's media demands.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Why would Green answer? Even if he doesn't have anything to hide he is under no obligation to respond to John Brown's media demands.

To shut me up?

[matty_f]

I had to laugh at Brown talking about folk not buying season tickets - there isn't currently a football club to buy season tickets for!

He's like Chemical Ali standing in front of the tanks, denying their existence.

How many players have left now? The SPL have all but said there will be no newco in the SPL, and the SFL look like they very likely snub them as well.

WTF does Brown think he's buying?

More to the point, where on earth are they digging up these investors from, and how stupid must they be?

[Spike Mandela]

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To shut me up?

It would take more than that, surely

[CropleyWasGod]

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It would take more than that, surely

Don't call me Shirley.


I agree with you, though. CG doesn't need to answer. However, if he doesn't, there might finally be a queue of journalists outside Meadowbank House.

[Paisley Hibby]

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Don't call me Shirley.


I agree with you, though. CG doesn't need to answer. However, if he doesn't, there might finally be a queue of journalists outside Meadowbank House.

Change of property ownership used to take a wee while to get registered - not sure what current position is. Plus, if it's true that Green has not yet handed over the full £5.5m, registration may not have happened yet. If that's the case then technically the properties are still owned by the Old Huns

[jgl07]

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I agree with you, though. CG doesn't need to answer. However, if he doesn't, there might finally be a queue of journalists outside Meadowbank House.

Scottish journalist do any work?

That would be a first.

[grunt]

When you're in a hole, the best advice is to stop digging

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/footba...rticle/2824442

And he wants to know why they are not honouring the deal they hatched in March when they agreed to pay cuts that they can quit for cut price deals.

[Stevie Reid]

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When you're in a hole, the best advice is to stop digging

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/footba...rticle/2824442

Speaking exclusively in a powerful interview on

RangersTV

, Jardine said: "You have to say that if the players were up front and honest you would respect them more.

The irony button has clearly been switched off on this ****, too

[Stevie Reid]

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Speaking exclusively in a powerful interview on

RangersTV

, Jardine said: "You have to say that if the players were up front and honest you would respect them more.

The irony button has clearly been switched off on this ****, too

I've just finished reading the whole thing - utterly disgusting attempt to whip up the mob, Jardine should be ashamed of himself: -

"There was an agreement reached over wage cuts and they got a great deal because they could leave for rock bottom prices and now they have seen an opportunity. In many ways it's greed."A lot of them are being manipulated by their agents but as Ally said, tell us the truth; be up front and honest and don't put these smokescreens up."I for one don't believe them and I know the vast majority of the supporters don't believe them either."


Oh, and having your wages cut by 75% is "a great deal".

[Saorsa]

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Speaking exclusively in a powerful interview on

RangersTV

, Jardine said: "You have to say that if the players were up front and honest you would respect them more.

The irony button has clearly been switched off on this ****, too

you could write what he kens about honesty and respect on the back of a postage stamp using a marker pen.

[magpie1892]

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David Leggat's blog is a disgrace.

His faux outrage at Thomson is so over the top you have to wonder if it's personal jealousy.

That's bad enough but to then go on to blame the demise of Rangers on spiteful bigots is outrageous...essentially he's saying the supporters of the other SPL clubs who have told their boards load and clear a newco in the SPL is out of the questions are bigoted and spiteful. To then pretend that it was all Craig Whyte's fault and the problems only stemmed from May last year and actually never had anything to with Rangers what so ever is frankly bizzare.

He should be ashamed of himself and maybe when he's woken up and the hangover has cleared he will realise just what he's said and issue his own apology.

Read my recent-ish post about this 'author'.

I say this without making any judgement whatsoever but DL does have a big problem with the pop. The times of day his postings often relate closely to the tone of the content.

And yes, a lot of it is jealousy. He's event jealous of Graham Spiers, and he's not got a job either...

[Stevie Reid]

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you could write what he kens about honesty and respect on the back of a postage stamp using a marker pen.

Check the title of the article too - "WE'RE NOT FOOLED" All designed to get the knuckle dragging element into action. Shocking.

The players must wonder why they bothered hanging around at all. And as for being honest and upfront - I could've sworn that Whittaker and Naismith held a press conference explaining their decision.

[Dashing Bob S]

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It doesnt even make sense. "Murder of Rangers an indictment of capitlaist football". Murray, of course, being well known for his philanthropy and staunch socialist values, committing to wealth dispersal within wider society and never at any juncture overspending in a wantonly capitlaist speculative manner. No. thats not happened. and to accuse these gentle wee liberal minded, secular souls that go to Ibrox of anything remotely bigoted or sectarian would jusst be plain stupid...

Away and shove it up your Ronson you blubberingly corpulent nazi fudknocker

To be fair to him, Griffin is far more liberal than most Huns I've met.

[Stevie Reid]

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David Leggat's blog is a disgrace.

His faux outrage at Thomson is so over the top you have to wonder if it's personal jealousy.

That's bad enough but to then go on to blame the demise of Rangers on spiteful bigots is outrageous...essentially he's saying the supporters of the other SPL clubs who have told their boards load and clear a newco in the SPL is out of the questions are bigoted and spiteful. To then pretend that it was all Craig Whyte's fault and the problems only stemmed from May last year and actually never had anything to with Rangers what so ever is frankly bizzare.

He should be ashamed of himself and maybe when he's woken up and the hangover has cleared he will realise just what he's said and issue his own apology.

Just read it - utterly, utterly shameful.

[Spike Mandela]

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When you're in a hole, the best advice is to stop digging

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/footba...rticle/2824442

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I've just finished reading the whole thing - utterly disgusting attempt to whip up the mob, Jardine should be ashamed of himself: -

"There was an agreement reached over wage cuts and they got a great deal because they could leave for rock bottom prices and now they have seen an opportunity. In many ways it's greed."A lot of them are being manipulated by their agents but as Ally said, tell us the truth; be up front and honest and don't put these smokescreens up."I for one don't believe them and I know the vast majority of the supporters don't believe them either."


Oh, and having your wages cut by 75% is "a great deal".

To talk of players honouring financial deals so that newco could get some money takes hypocricy to a new level. Sandy if you honoured financial deals in the first place you wouldn't be in this mess.

[CropleyWasGod]

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To talk of players honouring financial deals so that newco could get some money takes hypocricy to a new level. Sandy if you honoured financial deals in the first place you wouldn't be in this mess.

I would suggest that the players have acted very honourably in all of this, arguably with more dignity than anyone. They didn't need to take the 75% pay cuts, but did so in the hope that a buyer could be found. In the end, that was a fruitless exercise, but they have every right to say now "we did our bit, you didn't do yours."

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What's this all about then?

Chris McLaughlin ‏@BBCchrismclaugspokesman for #Rangers administrators confirms to me that offer of £8.7M for the club was rejected on Monday. Bid was from Stewart& McKenna

[MrSmith]

An unbelievable blog! You would have to think that inciting hate and sectariansm leading to disorder and who knows what?? Should be placed in the hands of the Scottish Government and or the Police.

[CropleyWasGod]

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What's this all about then?

spokesman for #Rangers administrators confirms to me that offer of £8.7M for the club was rejected on Monday. Bid was from Stewart& McKenna

Strange, if true.

Perhaps CG is backing out of the deal But, that then begs the question... why would anyone bid more for a business that is worth less than it was last week?

[Sylar]

According to the STV Twitter, Spartans have not and will not be launching any legal challenge to block any Newco application.

[Saorsa]

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According to the STV Twitter, Spartans have not and will not be launching any legal challenge to block any Newco application.

Pity really, because somebody should, why should well run clubs who have been waiting tae get in tae the leagues be bumped by some none club jumping the queue and the rules being bent tae allow them tae do so.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Pity really, because somebody should, why should well run clubs who have been waiting tae get in tae the leagues be bumped by some none club jumping the queue and the rules being bent tae allow them tae do so.

Are the rules being bent, though?

If a place becomes available, then Sevco and others may apply. If they satisfy the criteria, then they will be considered. If they don't, they won't. It's only if that process isn't followed that anyone can actually complain.

As an aside, although I tend not to believe what STV tell me, it wouldn't surprise me if Spartans have no legal action planned. They may be well-run, but they won't have the cash to splash on legal action which, at the moment, isn't needed.

[StevieC]

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According to the STV Twitter, Spartans have not and will not be launching any legal challenge to block any Newco application.

They won't need to, they'll just need to have their application ready to hand in when it's finally realised that Newco have neither a team to play nor the funds to survive.

[Sylar]

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Are the rules being bent, though?

If a place becomes available, then Sevco and others may apply. If they satisfy the criteria, then they will be considered. If they don't, they won't. It's only if that process isn't followed that anyone can actually complain.

As an aside, although I tend not to believe what STV tell me, it wouldn't surprise me if Spartans have no legal action planned. They may be well-run, but they won't have the cash to splash on legal action which, at the moment, isn't needed.

If the requirement of 3 years financial records is accurate, then surely they will be if Sevco are admitted?

[jgl07]

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If the requirement of 3 years financial records is accurate, then surely they will be if Sevco are admitted?

It does seem a strange rule.

How can a new club ever be established?

You cannot have three years accounts without operating. You cannot operate without SFA membership.

I doubt whether such a rule is legally sustainable.

Are the Newco Gretna and the Newco Clydebank members of the SFA?

[CropleyWasGod]

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If the requirement of 3 years financial records is accurate, then surely they will be if Sevco are admitted?

But they haven't been. That's my point. If they are, THEN others have the right to complain. Nothing untoward has happened yet, so why take legal action?