Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[FranckSuzy]

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Is this still planned? Not sure what the interest would be in a demo against "No to Newco", now that 6 clubs have said they will vote no. Would be good to keep momentum going to ensure Newco do end up in the 3rd though, and not in the first...but is that more for the SFL teams to decide now? Are SFL clubs even getting involved in this?

On the facebook page it says it's cancelled

[Baba O'riley]

Ah right; hadn't seen the FB page. cheers

never mind; Winchburgh galaday it is then on Saturday...

[Eyrie]

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Maybe they could be punted to the First with no chance of promotion for a minimum of X years i.e., even if they win the league they are not allowed back into the SPL until they have served their time. That would still give Rangers a chance at both cups, just not chance of playing in the top flight for a couple of seasons.

I've been saying for a while that this would work with a two year ban on promotion, equivalent to the time they would have spent in Divisions Two and Three.

[FranckSuzy]

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Ah right; hadn't seen the FB page. cheers

never mind; Winchburgh galaday it is then on Saturday...

No probs 'The demo planned for the 30th at all grounds against Newco in the SPL has been cancelled. Please inform anyone you know who planned to attend'.

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

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https://twitter.com/bbcallamont/stat...92749879709696

RFC in full self-destruct mode.

Who will the next four be ???

[SteveHFC]

Alan McGregor - Rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco
Neil Alexander - Out of contract
Scott Gallacher
Grant Adam

Defenders
Dorin Goian
Kirk Broadfoot
Sasa Papac - out of contract
Lee Wallace - Switching to newco
Steven Whittaker - rejected switch to newco
Carlos Bocanegra - rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco/on verge of signing for Toronto
Ross Perry
Chris Hegary - out of contract
Darren Cole - out of contract

Midfielders
Lee McCulloch - Rumoured to be switching to Newco
Maurice Edu
Steven Davis - rejected switch to newco
Alejandro Bedoya
John Fleck
Jamie Ness - rejected switch to newco
Salim Kerkar - out of contract
Kyle Hutton
Andrew Mitchell
Rhys McCabe - rejected switch to Newco
Robbie Crawford
Lewis MacLeod
Barry McKay
Juan Ortiz

Strikers
Kyle Lafferty - rejected switch to newco
Steven Naismith - rejected switch to newco
David Healy - out of contract
Andrew Little - out of contract
Sone Aluko - rejected switch to newco
Kane Hemmings

[Dalkeith]

Davis away according to stv reporter

[Westie1875]

Davis away now too according to Twitter

[jdships]

Surely this is the ideal time for ALL clubs , SPL, Div 1/2/3 , to STOP THINK AND ACT WISELY to ensure we have a " level playing field" and a fair share of revenue across ALL the clubs .
It is a once in a lifetime opportunity to rid ourselves of the massive problems Scottish football has had over the past ten /fifteen ( possibly longer ) years , let's not balls it up .

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

It's like big brother on fast forward ..

[Dalkeith]

Alasdair Lamont ‏@BBCAlLamont

McGregor, Davis, Lafferty and Ness all object

[S.sct]

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Now that it looks like they have no chance of getting in the SPL we are getting Raith and Falkirk coming out and saying they will not vote them into the first division. I had never thought about it from this angle but a Newco Rangers would almost be assured promotion at the first attempt from the first division so any team voting them in would be effectively kissing good bye to their promotion hopes for the season though getting a couple of big gates in return. They'd get the big gates in two years if RFC end up in the third division so no real incentive there to turn down a chance of SPL football for a season.

Looking at the first division next season, it is one of these leagues where I would say almost every club apart from maybe Dumbarton and Cowdenbeath could put a reasonable case forward for a promotion chance. So maybe the Newco won't get many votes there either.

Anyone else think the whole thing is maybe a stitch up though?

Perhaps it has been agreed behind the scenes with the SPL, SFL and Sky that Rangers will go into Div 1. This way the SPL clubs probably only lose Rangers for a season but it allows them to look good in front of their fans with statements about integrity etc thus avoiding boycotts.

The SFL could be compensated by the SPL and Sky for effectively losing the chance of winning the title for one season by getting a TV deal for a season and a play off place for the second placed team. Sky lose out on old firm games probably only for a season but minimise the loss of Rangers supporting subscribers by showing their first division games by way of a one season TV deal with the first division.

I'm not saying this is happening or will happen but won't be surprised if some or all of it comes true.

I also feel the much talked about "SPL 2" is on the way, accelerated by the Rangers thing, where a TV deal for both divisions comes in and a play off between 2nd bottom SPL and 2nd top is put in place.

Hope they don't rush through any plans to reduce the size of the league to a league of 10 as at this moment in time we could do with out up to three teams being relegated from the SPL until we sort ourselves out a bit.

I think this has been a pretty obvious plan B for both the SPL and Newco since the Oldco went bust.

[green glory]

***ake at this rate I'll be getting a game for them next season.

[ScottB]

Can't understand why any certainly first team player would stay, unless they are a fully committed Rangers fan or a Steven Gerrard style 'shady characters on the phone implying bad things may happen' type situation!

If any of them do stay and stick it out in the Third Division, fair play to them in a way. I remember Di Livio staying with the new Fiorentina (the Florentina Viola due the naming issues currently being experienced by Sevco) for example.

[ballengeich]

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Davis away according to stv reporter

The captain leading by example. Teammates : - Follow follow me.

[GreenCastle]

"We don't do walking away" - "We do running away!"

Rats deserting a sinking ship

[Dalkeith]

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The captain leading by example. Teammates : - Follow follow me.

quote from follow follow before it was anounced
"captain is always the last to go"

[lord bunberry]

Macgregor away as well according to ssn

[Col2]

Sevco now have next to ZERO value in transferred playing squad. Begs the question why bother TUPE as would be cheaper to start from scratch rather than at existing inflated contracts eg McCulloch @ £20k pw.

This story just keeps on giving

[Jonnyboy]

SPL = No

SFL = No

Glasgow Boys Clubs League = only option

[McSwanky]

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I would suggest it's a big windfall indeed. There is precedent of concessions being abolished for such games to help cover costs, and the publicity in the local area would be great for those involved. In all honesty I'm cheating a little as I've been involved in non-league (both in the Conference and below) where games have been played against the likes of Carlisle, FC United and more recently Chester where the cash generated paid the bills for a number of months, something that isn't to be taken for granted. Yes, the policing costs were much less but even those aren't too big an issue as long as the SFA helps clubs to negotiate with the police to keep costs down.

Fair play, I suppose it's money they wouldn't otherwise have received, but I do think some people are making rather more of this windfall than it maybe deserves.

[poolman]

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"We don't do walking away" - "We do running away!"

Rats deserting a sinking ship

Macgregor away

[green glory]

'All my life's blood is slowly draining away,
And I fell that I'm weaker every day',

[blaikie]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showforum=1

The websites even left now



Back now ..... need some entertainment tonight :)

[clerriehibs]

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David Roberts‏@thesportslawguyDirectors of SPL clubs could be in breach of thier statutory duties by voting #Rangers Newco out of the SPL.




How?

Desperation ... if this were true, then the directors would also have been obliged to have a clause saying that neither of the old firm could be relegated from the SPL.

[DarrenSQH]

Follow Follow has crashed! lol

[Jonnyboy]

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Follow Follow has crashed! lol

Nope, it's bailed out along with most of the players

[stokesmessiah]

Bears den is an absolute hoot...

"Why is everyone surprised? Disappointed, yes.... Surprised, no.

If Davis, Naismith, Lafferty and co have all decided to leave, you can count on the likes of Boca, Goian etc to follow.

The club is going to have to start from the beginning. We are going to be left with a thread bare squad. The only signings we are going to make are jounrey men. This season is not about competing for titles, its about starting all over again.

Rangers will be strong again, but at this stage having a Rangers (In whatever form) in the most important thing."

Penny has dropped with this little genius !

[Col2]

No club, no history, no players, no league no money and ............... NO HOPE

Christ I am beginning to feel a tiny bit sorry or them.....

[SPL Fans Survey]

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Personally this would be my plan...

This season we are out of time as it is, the teams moving up are going to struggle to react in time, but so be it. As soon as possible a vote among the SFL clubs should be held. At this stage I would argue that 'Rangers' are not in a state to play in any league and it is starting to look like the SFL clubs know this too.

So let's assume 'Rangers' are out of it and another team takes the empty slot, so for our purposes lets say Spartans. The season carries on as normal.

For season 2013/14 league reconstruction kicks in, the leagues merge together, a 16 team top league, with two 14 team leagues below it, giving room for 2 more clubs to join the lowest division, which could well include new Rangers or they could find themselves in whatever pyramid structure that is created to exist below that. In addition the League Cup is reformated to include an initial regional group stage to increase the number of derby matches for media interest.

Great minds think alike I've already started on this as part of the next survey and was going to float it for feedback then invite idea's on how to structure it question wise.

So my draft attached just so that when I float you don't think I'm nicking your ideas.


http://cl.ly/2k1q1X1B272V3U3S2l3M