Hibs transfer rumours

[JimBHibees]

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Not really baffling. He was in dire form when he dropped out then got injured I think. His confidence was shot after a number of mistakes, one game in particular when he passed back short a couple if times and I just recall him standing with head in hands watching.

It was right to take him out and keep him out, being close to relegation was not the time to be trying to get the guy through it. We were weak at the back and making mistakes every week. That largely stopped after we changed 3 of the back 4.

The game he did come and he scored covered up how awful he had been for the rest of the game.

Completely agree he was very poor in some of his latest games including selling a penalty in a derby at New Year. He is very talented however was getting caught out defensively more and more and can only assume he hasnt impressed particularly in the meantime. Who knows if he has a good pre-season and is very sharp he will likely force himself back in.

[Stevie Reid]

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We tried Kujabi & he was found guilty!! Seriously, I think he'll find it hard to resurrect his Hibs career but I agree 100% re Booth. Give him licence to run at people & he could be the Scottish Gareth Bale! OK, so that's a bit OTT but I really believe Booth has had a real raw deal from Hibs in last few months.

Hardly. He was given a five year contract on the back of his promising youth career and some good performances on loan at a much lower level - he was then dropped after a succession of poor performances, before getting injured.

Now there is no doubt that he had broken into the Hibs team at a very difficult time, but he did himself no favours with his performances - add to that the fact that he doesn't seem to have a definite position to play. I agree that he may be worth a shot at LM, but sadly his weak tackling and poor aerial ability meant that he was targeted by the opposition as a weak link at LB any time he played there.

I think anyone who looks at Booth play can see there is a good football player there, but whether or not he makes it is still very much up in the air. I like him and I very much hope that he makes it as a regular first team player with Hibs - but to even mention him in the same breath as Gareth Bale is hugely disrespectful to Bale.

[Golden Bear]

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Not really baffling. He was in dire form when he dropped out then got injured I think. His confidence was shot after a number of mistakes, one game in particular when he passed back short a couple if times and I just recall him standing with head in hands watching.

It was right to take him out and keep him out, being close to relegation was not the time to be trying to get the guy through it. We were weak at the back and making mistakes every week. That largely stopped after we changed 3 of the back 4.

The game he did come and he scored covered up how awful he had been for the rest of the game.

That summation is 100% correct imo.

[Dunbar Hibee]

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Not really baffling. He was in dire form when he dropped out then got injured I think. His confidence was shot after a number of mistakes, one game in particular when he passed back short a couple if times and I just recall him standing with head in hands watching.

It was right to take him out and keep him out, being close to relegation was not the time to be trying to get the guy through it. We were weak at the back and making mistakes every week. That largely stopped after we changed 3 of the back 4.

The game he did come and he scored covered up how awful he had been for the rest of the game.

Do you think the way he has been treated has made him more confident? Or dropping him. Boothy is a young player with a lot to learn, but when he first came in to the frame in the first team everyone was ranting and raving about him. Big future. 10x the player Kujabi is.

[JimBHibees]

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Do you think the way he has been treated has made him more confident? Or dropping him. Boothy is a young player with a lot to learn, but when he first came in to the frame in the first team everyone was ranting and raving about him. Big future. 10x the player Kujabi is.

If he was he would be in the team. It was the correct thing to take him out of the firing line when he was in such poor form it is up to the guy to get nearer to the level expected. It may be he could do with another loan period to build his confidence again.

[Andy74]

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Do you think the way he has been treated has made him more confident? Or dropping him. Boothy is a young player with a lot to learn, but when he first came in to the frame in the first team everyone was ranting and raving about him. Big future. 10x the player Kujabi is.

Kujabi has done well, a poor spell in the final doesn't really change that. Booth was playing like that week in week out before he got dropped. He was being targetted regularly as a weak link.

He's good with ball but contributed to a defence that was basically a disgrace.

He will have a future if he toughens up, he seems like a nice lad and we have had a lot of those here that are just weak minded and losers ultimately.

If he wants to make it then he needs to work his way through this and back in the team. If he is beeter than other players we have he will be in the team.

[Dunbar Hibee]

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Kujabi has done well, a poor spell in the final doesn't really change that. Booth was playing like that week in week out before he got dropped. He was being targetted regularly as a weak link.

He's good with ball but contributed to a defence that was basically a disgrace.

He will have a future if he toughens up, he seems like a nice lad and we have had a lot of those here that are just weak minded and losers ultimately.

If he wants to make it then he needs to work his way through this and back in the team. If he is beeter than other players we have he will be in the team.

IMO Kujabi was decent in the first couple games but detoriated rapidly. I'm not saying Boothy didn't go through a bad spell, but I think leaving him out the team for this long is a bit harsh, just my opinion though. Big season for him, if he gets his chance.

[Stevie Reid]

Arnason not coming to ER: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18355257

Rotherham United have signed Iceland international midfielder Kari Arnason.
The 29-year-old, who can also play in defence, has agreed a two-year deal which begins after his current contract with Aberdeen expires on 30 June.
Millers manager Steve Evans told the club website: "Kari is without doubt an oustanding talent.
"The lad is technically outstanding, he is very creative in the attacking third and his all-round range of passing is top class."
Arnason has recently featured in international matches against France and Sweden and becomes the League Two club's seventh signing of the summer.
He has also played for Plymouth Argyle for two seasons before joining the Dons in July last year.

[calumb]

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IMO Kujabi was decent in the first couple games but detoriated rapidly. I'm not saying Boothy didn't go through a bad spell, but I think leaving him out the team for this long is a bit harsh, just my opinion though. Big season for him, if he gets his chance.

Think Kujabi was ok for the first couple of games but then he started to be targeted as the weak link just like Booth.
Both seem to be similar type players in that they like to push on up the park, maybe they could be taught to work together with one covering for the other when he is on the attack.

[Franck Stanton]

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Arnason not coming to ER: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18355257

Rotherham United have signed Iceland international midfielder Kari Arnason.
The 29-year-old, who can also play in defence, has agreed a two-year deal which begins after his current contract with Aberdeen expires on 30 June.
Millers manager Steve Evans told the club website: "Kari is without doubt an oustanding talent.
"The lad is technically outstanding, he is very creative in the attacking third and his all-round range of passing is top class."
Arnason has recently featured in international matches against France and Sweden and becomes the League Two club's seventh signing of the summer.
He has also played for Plymouth Argyle for two seasons before joining the Dons in July last year.

Sorry to hear/read that as I really rated him and hoped we would sign him.

[Baker9]

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Kujabi has done well, a poor spell in the final doesn't really change that. Booth was playing like that week in week out before he got dropped. He was being targetted regularly as a weak link.

He's good with ball but contributed to a defence that was basically a disgrace.

He will have a future if he toughens up, he seems like a nice lad and we have had a lot of those here that are just weak minded and losers ultimately.

If he wants to make it then he needs to work his way through this and back in the team. If he is beeter than other players we have he will be in the team.

He needs to add bulk as well (in the way Lewis has this year). If Booth puts on a stone of muscle he could be a player. I hope he is spending his days off on the weights.

[grunt]

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Arnason not coming to ER: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18355257

Rotherham United have signed Iceland international midfielder Kari Arnason.

Gosh. Rotherham - 10th in League Two.

[Kato]

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He needs to add bulk as well (in the way Lewis has this year). If Booth puts on a stone of muscle he could be a player. I hope he is spending his days off on the weights.

He also needs to be taught where to stand at set-pieces. A simple thing but the amount of times he was caught out he deserved to taken out for his own protection. Continuing playing him the way he was going would have seen all confidence disappear, probably never to return. FWIW I don't think he's a left back - left mid or wing would suit him better.

I like him but he's a log way to go before his game knowledge matches his undoubted skill levels.

[theonlywayisup]

From SSN: Another piece of contract news from the Football League comes down at Walsall as goalkeeper David Grof signs a new one-year deal. Grof is the first out-of-contract player to sign fresh terms and manager Dean Smith is delighted.

[Hibiza]

dont listen to Chick Young, a proven waste of space.

[edinburghhibee]

Do we know if Johnny Hayes has been confirmed at the sheep? I really hope not I think he would be a great signing for us and he would be a player that we could get excited about watching.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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Do we know if Johnny Hayes has been confirmed at the sheep? I really hope not I think he would be a great signing for us and he would be a player that we could get excited about watching.

The journo from the express who tends to e pretty spot on reckons its a done deal to the sheep

[PeterboroHibee]

Read from one of the journalists that Hayes is taking up the majority of Aberdeens budget for the year. Hayes is a decent player and someone I would like at Hibs, but thats crazy if true.

[edinburghhibee]

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The journo from the express who tends to e pretty spot on reckons its a done deal to the sheep

Cheers Callum, I was hoping for Hayes to have had a change of heart on holiday and be sporting the new away top the mora with McPake


Oh well hope Pat has someone better lined up :pfgwa

[fit o' the walk]

Although Hibs have never stated that they were signing targets for us,that's 3 decent players not coming to us,Swanson,Arnason and Hayes,assuming Hayes goes to the Dons.

[bingo70]

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Although Hibs have never stated that they were signing targets for us,that's 3 decent players not coming to us,Swanson,Arnason and Hayes,assuming Hayes goes to the Dons.

Yup, you'll probably get slated for that post but I agree.

Swanson wanted to go down south but the other two were proven good SPL players. I know its still early days but the early signs to me aren't suggesting we've learned any lessons from previous windows.

I was hoping this summer could be a real statement of intent from our board but I'm not seeing any of that yet.

[fit o' the walk]

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Yup, you'll probably get slated for that post but I agree.

Swanson wanted to go down south but the other two were proven good SPL players. I know its still early days but the early signs to me aren't suggesting we've learned any lessons from previous windows.

I was hoping this summer could be a real statement of intent from our board but I'm not seeing any of that yet.

Can't see why i should be slated,3 decent players who i wouldn't have minded seeing at Hibs,hopefully the Dons deal for Hayes falls thru and we nick him.

[matty_f]

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Yup, you'll probably get slated for that post but I agree.

Swanson wanted to go down south but the other two were proven good SPL players. I know its still early days but the early signs to me aren't suggesting we've learned any lessons from previous windows.

I was hoping this summer could be a real statement of intent from our board but I'm not seeing any of that yet.

It's early days but I'm the same. If we were competing with Aberdeen for a player this is exactly the time to show that we're serious about sorting out the mess that we've become.

We simply can't afford to go another transfer windows with our fingers crossed that players are going to be good enough. We need to look at signing players that would have got into Motherwell's team last year, for example.

[bingo70]

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Can't see why i should be slated,3 decent players who i wouldn't have minded seeing at Hibs,hopefully the Dons deal for Hayes falls thru and we nick him.

Yeah, i think normally though you'd be getting told to be patient, we can't sign everyone etc....

TBF i'd normally be one of the people saying it but this summer is different, we need action from the manager and the board so i was hoping for pre-contract agreements and the signing of players like you mentioned, not much signs of that so far though.

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It's early days but I'm the same. If we were competing with Aberdeen for a player this is exactly the time to show that we're serious about sorting out the mess that we've become.

We simply can't afford to go another transfer windows with our fingers crossed that players are going to be good enough. We need to look at signing players that would have got into Motherwell's team last year, for example.

Hope you take this the right way Matty but if fans like you are saying that then i really hope the board fully understand how we're feeling, you're obviously one of the more positive hibs fans and generally stick up for and defend most things Hibs and if you're concerned like me i dread to think how worried the original doom and gloomers are!

[The Green Goblin]

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You really are about as thick as that sentence you've failed to construct. Trapattoni is manager of rep of ireland. Carroll has a fair few caps for NI under managerial greats like sanchez, worthington and recently o'neill. You base your opinion of him being a great signing on what? The clubs hes warmed the bench for?

Trapattoni is the manager of the Republic of Ireland. Carroll has won 20 caps for Northern Ireland under managerial greats like Sanchez, Worthington and more recently, O' Neill. What is your opinion of him being a great signing based upon? The clubs for whom he's warmed the bench?

[ancient hibee]

If Swanson was as good as some people think he'd still be at United.

[matty_f]

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Yeah, i think normally though you'd be getting told to be patient, we can't sign everyone etc....

TBF i'd normally be one of the people saying it but this summer is different, we need action from the manager and the board so i was hoping for pre-contract agreements and the signing of players like you mentioned, not much signs of that so far though.



Hope you take this the right way Matty but if fans like you are saying that then i really hope the board fully understand how we're feeling, you're obviously one of the more positive hibs fans and generally stick up for and defend most things Hibs and if you're concerned like me i dread to think how worried the original doom and gloomers are!

I know what you mean!

I've always maintained that the theory behind the board's strategy has been sound, and I think the big decisions they've made (stand/training centre) will reap rewards long term. Where I think they've been found wanting is in managing the change at the club with the numerous managers coming and going.

They've clearly been well intentioned with trying to get funds in to the various managers to bring players in but we've been on a steady downward trajectory for some time now. I think the board need to make it known that it's not enough for us just to survive, there has to be genuine ambition and if they want Fenlon to make us a top 4 side then they have to fund the spend on bringing top 4 level players in. They did it with Yogi (Stokes, Miller) and we finished 4th almost despite Yogi it seems.

If there's not enough money at the club just now to fund that level of spend then the board have a duty to all of us and Fenlon, to work night and day to find a way to source those funds either through manageable borrowing or going after 'investment' (ok, it's not investment because nobody's making money, but there are folk with capital that would put money into the club at a reasonable level).

IMHO, the wrong choices this summer will cripple the club for years. We were staring into the abyss of first division football this season, as we were for a good part of the previous season. We were a result or two away from being a non-SPL club. That would be almost fatal for a club of our size. The margins are too narrow to take chances with, Fenlon needs enough money to practically guarantee top 6 football (and I know the arguments about money not being able to guarantee anything, but teams that spend more consistently do better than those that don't).

[soupy]

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If Swanson was as good as some people think he'd still be at United.

Aye man Utd :-)

[Scouse Hibee]

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If Swanson was as good as some people think he'd still be at United.

Can you explain that one please?

[brog]

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Hardly. He was given a five year contract on the back of his promising youth career and some good performances on loan at a much lower level - he was then dropped after a succession of poor performances, before getting injured.

Now there is no doubt that he had broken into the Hibs team at a very difficult time, but he did himself no favours with his performances - add to that the fact that he doesn't seem to have a definite position to play. I agree that he may be worth a shot at LM, but sadly his weak tackling and poor aerial ability meant that he was targeted by the opposition as a weak link at LB any time he played there.

I think anyone who looks at Booth play can see there is a good football player there, but whether or not he makes it is still very much up in the air. I like him and I very much hope that he makes it as a regular first team player with Hibs - but to even mention him in the same breath as Gareth Bale is hugely disrespectful to Bale.

The fact he was given a 5 year contract at the beginning of the season does not mean he wasn't badly treated in the latter part of the season. From memory he didn't play after the St J game at home, a game in which he scored a superb goal. Remember, our back 4 that day was Hart, Stephens, Hanlon & Booth!! Directly in front of Booth was Ivan who gave him no cover whatsoever. I think he was only on the bench once more albeit he was injured part of the time. Re the part in bold above those are by far the weakest parts of Kujabi's game, I'd back Booth over him in those areas every time. Finally, re Gareth Bale, think back a couple of years. A young man with developing talent bought at a huge price & seen as a failure, booed by the Spurs fans. Played wide left one day through necessity & suddenly he's a hero & Harry's a genius. Of course it could have been worse, I could have compared Booth to Roberto Carlos, now no one would do that surely!!