Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[down-the-slope]

Mr Greene has been very very quiet past few days......

Anyone heard anything from Rangers sponsors? Most deals will have clauses to prevent damage to sponsor in certain circumstances...

[grunt]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Mr Greene has been very very quiet past few days......

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...ibrox.17808254

Herald Sport understands that Green may have finally drawn the funds together through the backing of an investor in Manchester, and he suggested to the RFFF that £10m has been raised. Green was also bullishly confident about the CVA vote, which will be held next Thursday, despite financial sources consistently questioning this analysis.

[johnrebus]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...ibrox.17808254

Fabulous stuff.

The Huns stand on the edge of oblivion and Charlie boy says, 'look, fork out out five hundred quid and I'll give you the chance to change the name of Murray Park'.


Charlie Green, he is the man.

[WindyMiller]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...ibrox.17808254

Can you cut and paste the article please Grunt?

I don't have access to it.


Edit:

It's probably the same p15h as this;

RANGERS supporters will be given the chance to rename the Murray Park training ground, according to Charles Green, who leads consortium trying to buy the ailing Glasgow club.
Green met yesterday with the Rangers Fans’ Fighting Fund and he described the meeting as “constructive”.
One of the issues raised was the Rangers training complex at Auchenhowie, opened in July 2001 and named after Sir David Murray, the club’s then owner who has come under fire after selling to Craig Whyte last year.
If Green can bring the club out of administraton through a Company Voluntary Agreement, season-ticket holders will get the chance to change the name in homage to Moses McNeil, one of the club’s founding fathers, or legendary winger Davie Cooper.
After the meeting Green released a statement which read: “I had a very constructive meeting with the Rangers Fans’ Fighting Fund today and we discussed a wide range of issues.
“We are united in recognising that a successful outcome to the CVA proposal is extremely important for the club, our fans and many businesses who have dealings with Rangers. Approval of the CVA would give everyone a huge boost of confidence.
“I provided the fans with further details of my consortium’s vision for the future of Rangers.
“Understandably, supporters are wary, given the recent past at Ibrox, but I will continue to have dialogue with the fans and inform them every step of the way. We will be taking Rangers forward to better days and one idea I put forward today is my plan to rename Murray Park.
“Following discussions with the supporters, we will be asking season-ticket holders to vote on whether to rename Murray Park, either the Moses McNeil Academy or the Davie Cooper Academy. We will be asking supporters to vote when they renew their season-tickets.
“We also discussed the situation with the SFA player embargo and I made it clear that the club’s position remains that we want to see a satisfactory outcome. We hope that in trying to achieve this there is general recognition this has become a difficult and complex issue for everyone.”
An RFFF spokesman said: “We had a constructive meeting today. Mr Green is fully aware of the issues we are concerned with but we made good progress in discussions. The main thing is getting the CVA approved. Once that happens fans will see that as a major milestone. There will be other milestones and if they are passed successfully it will be beneficial for the club and the fans.”
Meanwhile, Rangers have confirmed they will again travel to Germany for their pre-season tour this summer. Ally McCoist’s men will play threegames, against Eintracht Braunschweig (20 July), Armenia Bielefeld (25 July) and an as yet un-named opponent (22 or 23 July).



Pre-season tour!

[grunt]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Can you cut and paste the article please Grunt?

Representatives of the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund met the leader of the group attempting to buy the club. Both parties released statements that described it as a "constructive meeting", but presented little detail, and the RFFF fell short of offering Green resounding support.
They went into the get-together seeking confirmation that his consortium has the money available to fund the £8.5m loan purchase, at 8% interest, which is dependent on achieving a Company Voluntary Arrangement with creditors, and more detail on the identities of the investors. They were prepared to advise supporters to buy season tickets if the information was forthcoming and positive, but fell short of that backing.
However, the two sides did emphasise the need to recognise "that a successful outcome to the CVA proposal is extremely important for the club".

Herald Sport understands that Green may have finally drawn the funds together through the backing of an investor in Manchester, and he suggested to the RFFF that £10m has been raised. Green was also bullishly confident about the CVA vote, which will be held next Thursday, despite financial sources consistently questioning this analysis.

Herald Sport also understands Green's consortium is prepared to consider all options to protect their investment – with potential SFA and Scottish Premier League sanctions ahead – including sale and leaseback of Ibrox and Murray Park, and renaming the stadium through a sponsorship deal.

RFFF members released only a short statement after the meeting. "Mr Green is fully aware of the issues we are concerned with, but we made good progress in discussions," the statement read. "The main thing is getting the CVA approved. Once that happens, fans will see that as a major milestone. There will be other milestones and if they are passed successfully, it will be beneficial for the club and the fans."
Green also revealed that he had raised the proposition of renaming Murray Park, with season-ticket holders to be given the chance to vote for it to be named after Moses McNeill, one of the founders of the club, or Davie Cooper, the former Ibrox winger. The immediate response among the wider supporter base last night, though, was to consider this little more than an ill-advised publicity stunt aimed at winning their approval.

"I provided the fans with further details of my consortium's vision for the future of Rangers," Green explained. "Understandably, supporters are wary given the recent past at Ibrox, but I will continue to have dialogue with the fans and inform them every step of the way.
"We will be taking Rangers forward to better days and one idea I put forward is my plan to rename Murray Park . . . We will be asking supporters to vote when they renew their season tickets.

"We also discussed the situation with the SFA player [registration] embargo and I made it clear that the club's position remains that we want to see a satisfactory outcome. We hope that in trying to achieve this there is general recognition [that] this has become a difficult and complex issue for everyone."

[itchy07]

I would assume all flights, meals, accomodation and coach transfers for this pre season tour will be paid in cash and up front?

[Just_Jimmy]

Ironic that the man the huns are pinning all hopes on is a Mr Green.

[Andy74]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Can you cut and paste the article please Grunt?

I don't have access to it.


Edit:

It's probably the same p15h as this;

RANGERS supporters will be given the chance to rename the Murray Park training ground, according to Charles Green, who leads consortium trying to buy the ailing Glasgow club.
Green met yesterday with the Rangers Fans’ Fighting Fund and he described the meeting as “constructive”.
One of the issues raised was the Rangers training complex at Auchenhowie, opened in July 2001 and named after Sir David Murray, the club’s then owner who has come under fire after selling to Craig Whyte last year.
If Green can bring the club out of administraton through a Company Voluntary Agreement, season-ticket holders will get the chance to change the name in homage to Moses McNeil, one of the club’s founding fathers, or legendary winger Davie Cooper.
After the meeting Green released a statement which read: “I had a very constructive meeting with the Rangers Fans’ Fighting Fund today and we discussed a wide range of issues.
“We are united in recognising that a successful outcome to the CVA proposal is extremely important for the club, our fans and many businesses who have dealings with Rangers. Approval of the CVA would give everyone a huge boost of confidence.
“I provided the fans with further details of my consortium’s vision for the future of Rangers.
“Understandably, supporters are wary, given the recent past at Ibrox, but I will continue to have dialogue with the fans and inform them every step of the way. We will be taking Rangers forward to better days and one idea I put forward today is my plan to rename Murray Park.
“Following discussions with the supporters, we will be asking season-ticket holders to vote on whether to rename Murray Park, either the Moses McNeil Academy or the Davie Cooper Academy. We will be asking supporters to vote when they renew their season-tickets.
“We also discussed the situation with the SFA player embargo and I made it clear that the club’s position remains that we want to see a satisfactory outcome. We hope that in trying to achieve this there is general recognition this has become a difficult and complex issue for everyone.”
An RFFF spokesman said: “We had a constructive meeting today. Mr Green is fully aware of the issues we are concerned with but we made good progress in discussions. The main thing is getting the CVA approved. Once that happens fans will see that as a major milestone. There will be other milestones and if they are passed successfully it will be beneficial for the club and the fans.”
Meanwhile, Rangers have confirmed they will again travel to Germany for their pre-season tour this summer. Ally McCoist’s men will play threegames, against Eintracht Braunschweig (20 July), Armenia Bielefeld (25 July) and an as yet un-named opponent (22 or 23 July).



Pre-season tour!

So how does a company that owes so many people cash justify a trip to Germany? Plenty teams they can play here.

[grunt]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I would assume all flights, meals, accomodation and coach transfers for this pre season tour will be paid in cash and up front?

Specially since the bill for the last pre-season trip is still sitting in the creditors list in the CVA.

[Stevie Reid]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

So how does a company that owes so many people cash justify a trip to Germany? Plenty teams they can play here.

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Specially since the bill for the last pre-season trip is still sitting in the creditors list in the CVA.

Sums up the whole situation - they continue to act in such a fashion despite the whole situation being the most transparent shafting of creditors that anyone could ever, ever see. Disgusting

[CropleyWasGod]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Sums up the whole situation - they continue to act in such a fashion despite the whole situation being the most transparent shafting of creditors that anyone could ever, ever see. Disgusting

I have to say more fool those who continue to do business with them. Commercial naivete on their part.

[GreenCastle]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

So how does a company that owes so many people cash justify a trip to Germany? Plenty teams they can play here.

Not quite sure how they can justify going to Germany

I also noticed they were have ripped up the Ibrox pitch and putting a new pitch down one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57511216@N04/7274493536/in/photostream/

That's not a cheap job - who is paying for that and how ?

[Kato]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I also noticed they were have ripped up the Ibrox pitch and putting a new pitch down one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57511216@N04/7274493536/in/photostream/

That's not a cheap job - who is paying for that and how ?

The Queen, I mean The Taxpayer (via The Queen).

[Stevie Reid]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I have to say more fool those who continue to do business with them. Commercial naivete on their part.

Can't argue with that.

Why would companies still do so? Same as with Hearts, where is the logic?

[blackpoolhibs]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Not quite sure how they can justify going to Germany

I also noticed they were have ripped up the Ibrox pitch and putting a new pitch down one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57511216@N04/7274493536/in/photostream/

That's not a cheap job - who is paying for that and how ?

Who would be daft enough to take the work on without being paid in full beforehand?

[CropleyWasGod]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Who would be daft enough to take the work on without being paid in full beforehand?

Agreed.

I can't blame McCoist either here. He has his job to do, and he's getting on with it. If folk are daft enough to accommodate him, it's not his fault.

[Newry Hibs]

Wouldn't something like laying a pitch be authorised by the admins who are running the club? Is this acting in the best interest of the creditors?

[CropleyWasGod]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Wouldn't something like laying a pitch be authorised by the admins who are running the club? Is this acting in the best interest of the creditors?

Yup, if it increases the selling value of the property....

[joe breezy]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Yup, if it increases the selling value of the property....

Didn't know a car park or a Tesco would need lush new grass

[At The Edge]

I could be wrong on this but i`m sure I read that the Rangers fighting fund have paid for the new pitch?

[joe breezy]

got this image from kerrydale street but it can also be found in amongst this document...

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resource...20Protocol.pdf

it's clear that Rangers were found guilty of a maximum rule break but the SFA tried to let them off lightly by applying discretion

"The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 66 and imposed the maximum fine of £100,000 payable within 12 months. In addition, the Tribunal imposed a prohibition in terms of Article 94.1 and 95 of the Articles of Association, prohibiting Rangers FC for a period of 12 months from the date of determination from seeking registration with the Scottish FA of any player not currently with the club, excluding any player under the age of 18 years."

so it has to be a termination of membership going by these rules



schoolboy error by der hun, have to assume that they didn't get any legal advice whatsoever on their stupid course of action...

[grunt]

How the ordinary tax evader is treated

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

However, Sheriff Kenneth Robb said he did not agree that nobody had been harmed by the offence. He said that in an age of financial constraints, £635,000 was a lot of money which could have helped the public purse. He told Maxwell: "You have enjoyed the fruits of your labour and the tax that you should have paid. "The tree may be bare, but you used the fruits over many years."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...medium=twitter

[cabbageandribs1875]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

How the ordinary tax evader is treated[

QUOTE=BBC News]However, Sheriff Kenneth Robb said he did not agree that nobody had been harmed by the offence.
He said that in an age of financial constraints, £635,000 was a lot of money which could have helped the public purse.
He told Maxwell: "You have enjoyed the fruits of your labour and the tax that you should have paid.
"The tree may be bare, but you used the fruits over many years."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...medium=twitter[/QUOTE]


i've just finished reading that article as well

[Spike Mandela]

Can anyone explain to me why the SFA and FIFA aren't punishing Rangers for taking action to civil courts? Surely now the SFA are inviting open season for future court actions and FIFA can probably expect an angry phone call from Sion.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...oing-to-court/

[VickMackie]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

got this image from kerrydale street but it can also be found in amongst this document...

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resource...20Protocol.pdf

it's clear that Rangers were found guilty of a maximum rule break but the SFA tried to let them off lightly by applying discretion

"The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 66 and imposed the maximum fine of £100,000 payable within 12 months. In addition, the Tribunal imposed a prohibition in terms of Article 94.1 and 95 of the Articles of Association, prohibiting Rangers FC for a period of 12 months from the date of determination from seeking registration with the Scottish FA of any player not currently with the club, excluding any player under the age of 18 years."

so it has to be a termination of membership going by there rules



schoolboy error by der hun, have to assume that they didn't get any legal advise whatsoever on their stupid course of action...

So by definition they already fall into the maximum penalty category. This leads me to believe that the only option is to stick with a 100,000 pound fine or add on suspension.

I guess that'll be just a fine then. 14 million and all they'll pay is 100 grand.

C'mon Hibs, let's give players vastly inflated contracts and use the tax and NI. That'll still save us money and let us put up a better challenge.

[VickMackie]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Can anyone explain to me why the SFA and FIFA aren't punishing Rangers for taking action to civil courts? Surely now the SFA are inviting open season for future court actions and FIFA can probably expect an angry phone call from Sion.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...oing-to-court/

Is there a distinction here though?

If the Swiss FA followed all the correct procedures but Sion went to court then they were fair game. Is that what happened?

It seems like an error has been made by the SFA which means they'd be stupid to ignore the decision or risk possible further intervention from the courts, not just here but throughout football.

[JeMeSouviens]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Can anyone explain to me why the SFA and FIFA aren't punishing Rangers for taking action to civil courts? Surely now the SFA are inviting open season for future court actions and FIFA can probably expect an angry phone call from Sion.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/r...oing-to-court/

Sion weren't separately punished for going to court. They received a 3pt deduction from the Swiss FA for every game they played the embargoed players in and were expelled from the Europa League by UEFA for using those players against Celtic.

[GreenCastle]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I could be wrong on this but i`m sure I read that the Rangers fighting fund have paid for the new pitch?

Looks like it was the fighting fund who helped pay for it...

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/footba...rticle/2786206

[Gus Fring]

[IMG]http://www.hibs.net/image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADQAAAA0CAYAAAD FeBvrAAATsUlEQVRogd2aa4xd13Xff3vv87jvufMkZ8gZPiRKl ChKFWVZpsiUkqPGcixINYxEaZPAcgzkQ9K4cBqgaL8UQYO0qF0 oaIEEhYvEaQM4aGJZcazaomhKlu1IIvWwJOtJSqQovmY4w3ncu Y/z2Hv1w773zoukVbRAH5s4POeec+/e+7/Xf639X+uMEhH+f2r6//QE/ne3YPWHV1/68cFNo0N/WC0X7tBGlVY/cyKEQUAnywjDECcOQYjCiCxP0DrHiRCEEZIbCoUSjaVltAoJgg DnHEo5AHJJKRZCMtv2n3OLSqFYKNNOOqCgUCiQJikKg7CRRVlu W8vNzssXLl76F3fcdc+PevdVj3KvvvTjg9dvH/ueMVEZpXqP0f1rsOII4pg8z7DWopUmDEOEHBCUgbSTE0UlknZC pVoDXYA8hSAC7bo95WSdJrlNMaFCK41kDskEZTxpkk5CXIgRp3 Dr3ELw/TjnyLOsefLU+ft7oPqAZi+++3ylFN6lCFFKdTEpeuC01tjc4jR keUa1XCXNU5JOQhiEBHGItYIxAUEYQ+5oNFscPfIMJ989wbnzF 6gP1dhz8x5uu20PO67bgeDI8wycJTSKTruDMZowikg7KUEYYW3 eW1pYZSkR6QITGsvpC2NbbvjEGkDJ4geJNjrybqVA+5VSXUDOO qIoJLE5zjqCIMBaizGG0MSkuSUKC3SSDt/5zhM8/fQzHPnek7z7wTkADGC757HhMn/4b7/CI498HgJD2mlgDBiELM38ZEUhCFrpPoBVaFZsJQ4RSUv1bfEaQ NnyWUHpvlU8kBW6OetQWqFNCECn0yEIQ4zWWOuIC1XeOfE+X/qd3+HwkaNrKFIplmi2WwiglV/nQCke/pWH+fLv/i777vh7JM15tBKMNuR51yrK/5fneR9YD0gPmIi3UmFgSq0BlLfOiwfT+6FiddNKk2UZmMBTEk9 L6xxxqcLfPfs8Dz34OWYX5ylGATq3NN1GZ1ZriANTE1t5/PG/4vY7byVdXkKbVRYRIe/66urmg4R/LghKVgCtC9tq3ZmuP3nzR1Hkr53DGI3rgpmbnuE3v/AI84vzREAnzcmcEGk/QKShoHyvZQ1F7a+HSjEfnj/Lb37xN5g+d4GoUkOUQZQBUThRaK2JogitdZ/+/TkqhWYtk/qAPG/XrujqDlY/D8MQESEIfNT/g3/9+5x4/wwx4IBi92ycH6CoYLgGYzGkzh8hsNBKGIo1L7/+Fo8++tXuxLz1jQkIgoA4ikjSZM3iqnXsWTPnFcpdEPp+ozYAA k+7TpYTRxHOCUGhyI9/8APuuefTREAEjI2GbN66lULZUCjEbBobZ3BwiPrwCIuLC5z98E MKUZnLsws8ceR5XG9VFRx99rscOHgIm3RAHIigtSLLMoJukHIK xDk8Ix05FkQo1zzl1mys12riHFZ5q2htSNIOAfDaa69SVBADn/6HP8***TczOjZCbaCKNv771WqNPO9FrwO0k5RWM2F4dJD/8o3vUtDQcPDnf/pnHDh4D2mWUQwjcpch0mWEtevY41dBi8ax8qwPyO/IsOKyjjW+pDXiXP9WHMcg8P2nDtMWePDBA9z/qfsZrA9hXUKhGFEqFrDOorXCOkWgA0AzFAzSbqV85oHP8MrxZ3 jzZBuj4PEnvsm/mfkKw2OjuDTBiqBROHFrSaYUiCeUQq0JGmuCwrW4CaC7ITXLM3 QYc3n2Es8/9wOqIdy9/wClYoEsbxHFAYUwwCiQPCdpLUOekbRbgCPptEBZBqol7tx/CAtYgblZy6lTHwAK65xfxKvNSXU3/bUxYVVQ6P67WhPn0No7pM29iZcWF5metezePcXo6CjOOcgtyjr EOpRAoP3GW4xLDAwMEkYR5VKZTruFiDA6OoYBCgacgzRNkDxHK 0Vg/AKaVetuUBhU37/9pxXP+Ug+JOIp55xgAoNCIXlGtVpjIIaRsU2UyhUUlnq1glKur wG9D0SkqUXSNnMLC5w9e4brd90EJmRoeASlwHSlhNYaZQyS54B DdxWDN8q1GXRNQFdKk6y1YPxP8ixneGSEm2+9hWKxhLPCkSe/Q7vdoFarc8Ou3Uxtm0IJLDcXefH4Md58/ThpLmwa38Hp9z5k3ycOcOONexgbVXww4wc0JgClsNaitFf4CkH 0CoP8+cqZz5q74uyq/Wb1JutDp4ignCPLM2yagNHcvHs3g/U6f/ejp3nt+FEacwv85NgzPPE33+D0qfeIogiX+01588ROtkxdx64b b2LTxGYunT9HuVzkF3/xIQxQL8HE+BjYjCDQGKWwYhEFSjRC77w6CDhQdtXnbsvJcdrH+ d5hBawVbO4wOkAErMtRLkdhwabcvm8vpWLAUG2A2/cdwGZtdu++jcmt21mYnSUsxIyNb2Jq2zbqg3WUTXn5he/Tbi2y47pJDBkH9t9BCPzc/lt447XjQIZ2OeJyRASHwqGw3XOv9ShoVtGpTzmtumHB9azlHU8 DonyC55z1q+a8eMQoprZNkqctqoEhbS9RHxxm8/gEJghoNJZYuHyJIIwY2zzO8MgoIkJtYIAgNARBQCEyDA3WuPV6 uHPfPlqNRchzRPlN1VlPPx+qdXfH0d4ygOqmEBsAOVFdvdflal fpSveesw4RRxCEIIJzgiQtBuoDhFHIxPgm6gNlgtCr8TRJQDnv CyoDYPP4BNZlfV2mtSZJOmR5ztatu9iyZRuVShWMIe900NqgdI jLrc9mrhAUlFZ9I6wFlDuU0j51oBehBGdXNJxzltz6s3WWVstv sDZNsdYRRpHvNAhoNpcpRHFfWWRJh+XlBuVKieXlBgBRFPf7vv PAIUwQMDk51d84syxDh6s2GpHuIndVtlpLvTWA/FdcNzME5bzrObE4cWilceLIcyHPM5RSOJczMjLC+MRmsryDEed 1FoKIpVIps2l0lOVWE3DMz82ADFMulUnzjE6nTRiGxHHMHR+7i 0azzejYGOQ5Whusy73SUBqRrrsr189BeinGasr1g0LPKs45n2p bh3UO17WntRbB4lzeBWnJ85TaQIWtk1tZWlok6XTQxtBut1huN Lg0M81yc5mlhQXOnHoP5xwz0xeZn7+M60bUJElw1tJoLLF1cpJ arYa1ObmzBEGA0aa7QCtzXwGysa21kIC2Cte1ls+j/P3cZSglWHE4HBrIspQoiqhUy4ShIc9TnItwztJYmOPE2z/l7On3MFFMEAZMTm3HiqPdahJEPgURq7xmUwGTk9vRYYTNLTZ3B HGI8ZPDda2gXVcMqe7c1mmfPiDrrPehrtjr8dQ5wXWrOiL4SYt DGa8cRPwek2UZgQhJp0OWpcSFAjfctJdCoczg0BCDI6NkWUapV CbLfNUoz3OioECr0+bv3/MpxsY30+p0MNpgjME6h4j057M2P+vGiHWU6wMKpCtpoFt48BFf aQHnf+zrChrtIM0znFg6nTYD9TrGGAJjQCkW5peIwthTWCztVo ulU++TpB2MCRjZtJkoigiCgCy13sq1ATpJhtHGp/ZWfDUoDLuKvVv16VFutatcTW1fqUl3BZz1/tRz+l4RRSmFaM3Y+ISPbKUSYRDy1k9f4fR774IT8jynUCyitaF arVGMCwTK4Jyj1WyyZeskhUIBY4yvWwBaew1nbY7R5mdNc6OF1 qHo87PvkPiNdXVTSiHe7kxMTnH65AmKxTLlao2PHbiXdqtFIYq I4wJRFDG+eZzqQJ12u007adNqNkE7du68DtEKsb6O4Lo1OK001 jmMAf0RS/AbLLSmrqB6ssFDW692RcRHRQebxreweetWzp7/EGMCTBhSqVZZbjSYnj5Pu92iUCiSW9tfGBEhDCNEvCV8kPEbt3 UObbRPV2x+zdTm2oBwG4ol0vfA1TdV/3DOP9+95zaWmi2mZ2ZwTihWauzYtZuRsS0MjW5GBzGNpUXmL1+ m2Wx6GVSpopQiDENSZzEmwDp31bC8YV7XArS+hsyaqOJWZFHvM T1VocmdsHnLFvbsuZUPzp7m0uwl2s0mxhgqlSpJkrC4ME+r2WT +8hyX52axNifpJLzy8ks+bwpCX2TsKQLnGaL/l31oXVNKrezUPVGozCoK+vCdZDnbdlxPvT7CT148xuTWHVRrZc qlCs450iwl65akqoMDVKo16oN1XnjxJW645Q7Gt26n2WxiTIAS t8FI3quvneRtBLQqF1Kyouuu1pGnI4BGa1/orw8Ns3PXbk699xbZyTbVWoXlRpM4DqnUhth90x7qwyOYbtSbn r7AyXdPsvW6m6DZwpiAPM8JlJ+LcxalN1ZPrzSjFaUgFsFXIqW 7H6kuQCXKV26yHGM8LbSGIA5oNpsM10dYnm8gAcRxkVazyeDgM KW9+0hbyywuzjEyNEqpUqY+NEZ1YIA4jtGhIcsFa+Hdkye5B0W z2ebDDz9kz969NBtLoH2922GxuaUQxV6WZRkm8NVbY/RGQGHgNzCxq19Z+LPSvmAeBAFpmmKigCzLyG3O2Ohm/vZvH2dkaJT9d91NpbSZuFAiz1IGh4aJRkbYFuzEiPeFuFzCGEO hWEYFhixLKVcqjI6OgYPBwUGOHj3C4SNP8o9/9dcYGxml1VpGG01cCMhTryFLcQlRlqzd8Rt6t61krDYjd87rOA VojTIarQNQhjAskIvDBBFaGYrFEqVKla/8+3/H0lKDT973CwCYMOSee+/DaEO9PkiSJAQ6pDo4SHmgRhj6N3q2K06ttYRhxI6d1yEuIyrE/Ornv8A9936Sf/ql3+aNN9+kXBskDgs4C6iAuFTBCuS5EBVL5Ku2xxW1rQ1REPnX FzYHUd19RqEwJEmKCYsMDAyhwwIvvfwqn/vsgzz/3PM88sXfotlsocOAZrPFLfs+zvjkdprNFkOjm8htTpZlGGOIop iBwSFKpTKFKO7ei9g0OoIKQnQQkrRa3L7v42yb2smtt93No1/9KkvNJnGp2pdLOggxJiDLHGKuUKy3WUqad/wAYYxzzmeCJsChGB7dRBjGPPnUEb74xS9w//2/zNPPvkWjkZLnjmKhjLUOHRoIQ/bffZBCoUi9PkipUvEpvHjr916UoRUL85cZn9jC8PAwNmmTJS3C yGe9F85Pg4Lf++f/io99/GM89lePoUxIqVojSXOsQFy6qoUUURhirSXNEowJ0UGEUppCqcS 3Hv82v3Dfz/PgZ3+Nxx5/hjjwmvC5Y2/w+pvvoKMCWgcoDEuzlxgaGaNcq5NbYXRsnE2bJ6gPDlGr1VHGE EQRiGZmZpqd1+0ijEOszQnjItoEZJ2U227b1/fjU+9P87lf/nV+/r5/wPee+C5RXCAuVmi3E0RfQZwqpclzwYQFUAEWRXlgkA9On+FL/+RLPPzwIzz/4juExgNpZr7SaR28f/I06ICoWGZ27jJHDj/FS6+8zOT2HSx3WuTW+tKTMaACjI7IM0sny8kFBmoDCMLi4iLvv P0m83NzhIUCn3noIRR+HD9HePaHL/DpBz7HJ++7jyefOkyxOkChUrtSUHBoBe12i3p9kDiO+Y9/9Ch337Wfr/3ZX/rXHhpS23uBu7IQ+/cfBFE0lhpMT89w/Q03Ua0PUChV2DK5nfMXLzIzN8fc5UWmL06z1GwyM3cZZ+HGG29 hy9QOWs02586do7m8zNGj3+cTH7+TI089xX333dvN5XoFGz/uD394jPvv/yy/8vA/4vSpM/35rJSx0OQOqtUaZz74gC//sy/zrb/5vq9Rat+Rc/7VRk/ig+bzv/4bTE1t5/gLP2J8YpSRsU3UawOgHO1mg6GhEaamdnD4ye8QRTHLi0uUk4TR 0TFu33cntdoAibXosMTO63dRqw/x2Dcf54Xjr3Hd9c9x0817eerI02gVIJKxvv23v/4W3/7v36bV6JbWepXS+QsnRWRZXjn+jEyMBqJAIoMEkeqlhKKUv64M DIkX9EY++9AvyQMPPCCRQb73xGMi0pbm0kVpN6alvXhWLp55XV zngjRm3pG//q9/JF//4z+Qb/7Ff5DlSydFZEGas+9LsnhOktasiLTlB0e/2y2oIXfcfquUy2XR2nTH671cVauuERMg/Ypv76K1eFHOn3lb7ti7Q8yqLwMSRVH3Wq/qcG2ngIyNlOSNn74iIol02rMi2aIsL52V+ZkTIrIo77/1vHzj64/K7Pm3RKQh+fJFSRYviG3NiWQNOfH261IuaVEg1XKwZhF/1rEBkGRN+f1/+XsSKyT0yke0VhtXRa2AUt3rMAzFaCWRQXZsH5fTp94Vkba0W5 dE3JLY5LLY5LJIviSz50+IyxbEpgtik3nJOwsieVvOnXlfbti+ pTvu1SZ+dXAbAM1ePJvdvvfGa6zClTsLld5w7+a9u+Ts2VMi0p ZOsiDNxkURaUrSnhVJF6W5NCONhRmZnzsvkrXl7Kn3ZHzTiCiF RKHuUy4Igo9knTiOsw2Anvvxs9OAxOuto/Rail2BAlGw1s+UQsY31+UnPzkuIh1pLF+SxaUZabbmxKbLYqUl IqmIZPLi8edkanJCfOX6o9Fr/XHw4MHpDYDefOONPykVixn49P6jdKRAKsFVJtHt42v/+Y9FpCPN1qJk1gPJpSNp1pavfe0/raM1ov4nQRWLxezw4cN/stGHRCaOHTt2+NChQ5fiOM7WOuOVg8A1waqV86fuv1fePvFTEU klzVpycfqsPPzwL62zuF41xs8eqxDH2aFDhy4dO3bssIhM9HD0/06h2yaAR4DbgDV/L/d/YWsBrwJfB873bq4H9P98+x+HI2UoCgj16gAAAABJRU5ErkJggg ==[/IMG]

BBCAlLamont Rangers Fans Fighting Fund says Charles Green's promised he won't sell or mortgage Ibrox or Murray Park (or other property assets). 07/06/2012 13:09

Surely it hasn't got anything to with Charles Green at this stage as a) He doesn't actually own the club yet, b) its the administrators decision if they feel it would benefit the creditors and then c) the liquidators could also decide to do this?

[Lungo--Drom]

Just spewed my breakfast up after looking at that photo :@

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote