Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[tamig]

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Now free for every club in Scotland to challenge any punishment handed out to them by SFA in the courts without the fear of further actions against them for doing so

Only if the punishment isn't specifically stated in the SFA rules though. That's why the hun went to court - the signing ban wasn't one of the listed punishments.

[VickMackie]

I thought there was a caveat in the rules along the lines of 'any punishment we see fit'?

[tamig]

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I thought there was a caveat in the rules along the lines of 'any punishment we see fit'?

No. That's why the CoS referred it back to the Tribunal - because the punishment dished out wasn't mentioned anywhere in the rules.

[Jim44]

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Regan just on the news saying he's spoke with FIFA and rangers won't be punished for taking them to court

......... the start of the kid-glove treatment of Rangers no doubt.

[CropleyWasGod]

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......... the start of the kid-glove treatment of Rangers no doubt.

Or, perhaps, Regan has assured FIFA that the revised punishment will be as severe as, or more severe than, the original one.

[CropleyWasGod]

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BBCchrismclaug #SFA recieved fax from FIFA today saying they are not breaching rules re #Rangers 06/06/2012 15:00

Dear oh dear, Chris, you're supposed to be a professional wordsmith. Repeat after me, I before E, except after a few drinks....

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

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Or, perhaps, Regan has assured FIFA that the revised punishment will be as severe as, or more severe than, the original one.

I'd like to think that but my gut disagrees

[lapsedhibee]

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Dear oh dear, Chris, you're supposed to be a professional wordsmith. Repeat after me, I before E, except after a few drinks....

An insufficiently scientific rule, imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duqlZXiIZqA

[Brando7]

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Regan just on the news saying he's spoke with FIFA and rangers won't be punished for taking them to court

unbelievable!!!!!

Full interview here http://sport.stv.tv/football/104990-...on-new-owners/

[grunt]

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That's fine, a piddly crime anyway.

That's as maybe.
It's a piddly crime that we probably would have been punished for.

[CropleyWasGod]

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If that was the extent of the crime then ok, punish. It may appear as a witch hunt to punish in this case which is a good sign, other misdeeds will incur penalties or the spl will consist of one team.

I am thinking this way too. What we shouldn't have is a situation where there is a doubt about the justice, where the morality can be clouded by legal argument. As you say, it is likely that there are other crimes still to come to light, when natural justice will prevail.

[Onion]

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That's as maybe.
It's a piddly crime that we probably would have been punished for.

Any other team bar Celtic would have been thrown out for that alone. Just how many crimes can one club commit before the authorities stand up and do their elfin job ?

[Bostonhibby]

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That's fine, a piddly crime anyway.
Perhaps they will ensure clarity in future, rounds 1&2 to rangers.
The governing bodies are taking one helluva beating.
Incompetence or corruption?

Are there any masonic institutions in Europe? if so how deep does it go?

[Leithenhibby]

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unbelievable!!!!!

Full interview here http://sport.stv.tv/football/104990-...on-new-owners/

My take on this is that they (rfc) will still get their ar$e felt good and proper.

At no point does SR say that RFC will walk away unscathed, on the contrary my take is that the panel will dish out an appropriate punishment, that will not please everyone (never going to happen) but I just hope that the SFA/Panel look at the big picture and see that whatever the decision is will determine who attends football in this country next season. Get it wrong and the "games a boggie" ..........

[gramskiwood]

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That's fine, a piddly crime anyway.
Perhaps they will ensure clarity in future, rounds 1&2 to rangers.
The governing bodies are taking one helluva beating.
Incompetence or corruption?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

[joe breezy]

Remember this I just the Craig Whyte episode we still have the recent shenanigans to come, there can't be a rangers in the SPL next season...

[joe breezy]

Also why worry about a Regan statement, it's got nothing to do with him it's an independent trio that will give them a greater punishment

[Spike Mandela]

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My take on this is that they (rfc) will still get their ar$e felt good and proper.

At no point does SR say that RFC will walk away unscathed, on the contrary my take is that the panel will dish out an appropriate punishment, that will not please everyone (never going to happen) but I just hope that the SFA/Panel look at the big picture and see that whatever the decision is will determine who attends football in this country next season. Get it wrong and the "games a boggie" ..........

Every time I hear Stewart Regan the more impressed I am. He strikes me as a man trying his best to get on top of this unholy mess at Rangers whilst trying to keep the SFA true to it's principles of integrity and fairness to all teams.

I think the next step is obvious and Rangers know it will be suspension but their next move will be to raise an appeal near the 21st day of the cooling down period to delay the process further. They will try and appeal to get the case taking back to the original tribunal.

[Minder]

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Incompetence or corruption?

Neither, they obviously decided to shake hands and move forward.

[Leithenhibby]

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Every time I hear Stewart Regan the more impressed I am. He strikes me as a man trying his best to get on top of this unholy mess at Rangers whilst trying to keep the SFA true to it's principles of integrity and fairness to all teams.

I think the next step is obvious and Rangers know it will be suspension but their next move will be to raise an appeal near the 21st day of the cooling down period to delay the process further. They will try and appeal to get the case taking back to the original tribunal.

OMG, Please no more back stepping.

By the end of this I'm sure RFC will be wishing they had just taken their medicine and moved on. They will exhaust every avenue available to them and I can't blame them for that.

One thing is for sure, when the punishment(s) do arrive, they are going to sting! ....

[Bostonhibby]

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Neither, they obviously decided to shake hands and move forward.

[jgl07]

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Are there any masonic institutions in Europe? if so how deep does it go?

Are you kidding.

There are masonic organizations throughout the world.

They were traditionally quite strong in Switzerland especially in Protestant cantons.

The French revoution was largely organized by masonic organizations especially the Girondins (from Bordeaux) and the Jacobins.

[grunt]

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... how many crimes can one club commit before the authorities stand up and do their elfin job ?

Sounds like a line from Bob Dylan!

[joe breezy]

WTF has it got to do with the masons?
They don't have the judicial power they maybe once had...

I don't believe they do anyway, its just a social club, and there's plenty Catholics in it too

Regan (not a very 'Proddy' name for conspiracy theorists) is doing an alright job in saying its up to the appellate.,.

The way I see it is that surely the Craig Whyte stuff is minor compared to 20 years of prior criminality and the investigation of that has just begun

Surely it can only get worse for the huns

[Leithenhibby]

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WTF has it got to do with the masons?
They don't have the judicial power they maybe once had...

I don't believe they do anyway, its just a social club, and there's plenty Catholics in it too

Regan (not a very 'Proddy' name for conspiracy theorists) is doing an alright job in saying its up to the appellate.,.

The way I see it is that surely the Craig Whyte stuff is minor compared to 20 years of prior criminality and the investigation of that has just begun

Surely it can only get worse for the huns

I'd say ...

[Moulin Yarns]

It looks like Craigie Whyte is trying to emulate Mad Vlad.

fails to show up in court

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...p-no-show.html

Fails to pay a fine

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...0000-fine.html

No doubt will come out with a rant about Glasgow Mafia sometime soon

Making Scottish football look bad to the rest of the world

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...art-Regan.html

[whiskyhibby]

The most depressing thing is that the SPL/SFA are efffectively saying the Ugly sisters can never be relegated from the top tier........ So much for sporting integrity!!


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[EuanH78]

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The most depressing thing is that the SPL/SFA are efffectively saying the Ugly sisters can never be relegated from the top tier........ So much for sporting integrity!!


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Where did you get this idea from? Things are changing here. Wouldn't be surprised for Rangers to get suspended (in fact I think it's likely)

Fair enough, Doncaster has been trumpeting the 'we need the OF' line but even he has went quiet recently, Rangers brand is becoming too toxic for people to touch IMO. I have seen/ heard nothing from the SFA that suggests they will be going easy on the Hun even if the SPL do.

One way or another Rangers are going to get screwed to the wall.

[Just Alf]

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WTF has it got to do with the masons?
They don't have the judicial power they maybe once had...

I don't believe they do anyway, its just a social club, and there's plenty Catholics in it too

Regan (not a very 'Proddy' name for conspiracy theorists) is doing an alright job in saying its up to the appellate.,.

The way I see it is that surely the Craig Whyte stuff is minor compared to 20 years of prior criminality and the investigation of that has just begun

Surely it can only get worse for the huns

LOL, looks like too many peeps have been reading Hun Media..... I'm worried it's starting to wear off on some of us! .... I'll need to stop my own guilty pleasure just in case. :-/

[stokesmessiah]

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Where did you get this idea from? Things are changing here. Wouldn't be surprised for Rangers to get suspended (in fact I think it's likely)

Fair enough, Doncaster has been trumpeting the 'we need the OF' line but even he has went quiet recently, Rangers brand is becoming too toxic for people to touch IMO. I have seen/ heard nothing from the SFA that suggests they will be going easy on the Hun even if the SPL do.

One way or another Rangers are going to get screwed to the wall.

I notice that the Rangers fans who felt a great sense of injustice at being given a punishment that was not written in the rule book and lauded their "victory" in the court of session are now looking for a Scottish cup ban. Correct me if i am wrong but i am pretty sure that a Scottish cup ban is not in the book either?