Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Colr]

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Just heard on the radio, but no link yet.....

"BBC Scotland understands" that there is increased "animosity towards Rangers" because of the Court action.

Encouraging

from whom?

[down-the-slope]

Its amazing how many people have no idea of the football structures and responsibilities in Scotland - now I agree that one body running it all would be best...but vested interests mean thats unlikely.

The SFA is the member of UEFA / FIFA so its they / Regan / SFA Board that has to get to grips with this aspect of the situation

[CropleyWasGod]

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from whom?

Other clubs, apparently

[CropleyWasGod]

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Have the SFA messed up?

They at least are trying to punish Rangers until Doncaster with his bucket of whitewash.

They have messed up if, as the judge suggests, they didn't know their own rules.

The bigger mess-up, I would suggest, is on the part of Rangers.

[down-the-slope]

BBC Scotland has learned that a number of SPL clubs are extremely disappointed with the ruling.
One club chairman said there was an "increased animosity" towards Rangers after they took the case to court

Sounds like an off the record response...lets hope the CVA gets rejected as they are really peeing off the people that need to agree a NewCo....only needs 5 to take the hump and they are sunk

[CallumLaidlaw]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ues-CVA-appeal

Poor poor rangers!!

[EuanH78]

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Have the SFA messed up?

They at least are trying to punish Rangers until Doncaster with his bucket of whitewash.

I dont think the SFA have messed anything up...yet and I'm no apologist for them, they have imposed a punishment on the Huns that to be honest was actually quite leniant given the severity of the transgressions - that the Huns are too stupid to just take it on the chin and would rather incur the wrath of FIFA/ UEFA for further flagrant rule breaking is not the SFA's fault. Whether the SFA now have the cajones to follow through remains to be seen, however.

[seanshow]

""Twitter Exchange

James : I’m a Rangers fan who cares…really…go to division 3
and start again, cos we are really not wanted in the top league.

Malcolm: James, I’m a Stranraer fan – you’re not wanted in Division 3 either!""

Made me chuckle

[CentreLine]

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So, before Rangers went to the CoS their actions had taken them close to suspension/expulsion. They have now appealed at the CoS in direct contravention of the SFA and higher authorities rules, so they must have crossed the line. There is no alternative, they have to be expelled or suspended by the SFA if Scottish Football has any hope of survival.

The international authorities would jump at the chance to combine the British associations and the SFA would give them a great opportunity to do so by deferring to UEFA here. We've reached the crossroads and there's only one road we can take to survive. Rangers have succeeded in turning their own drama into everyone's crisis and it could end up realising their wish of Scottish clubs playing in English leagues. Ironically they won't be around to enjoy it because we can be sure that UEFA will not allow them to continue as a football club.

Could this be the intention from the very start. Bring Scottish football to the brink and finish it as a seperate entity?
Was there not a rumour some time back that Rangers, or an arm of Rangers, had purchased a Blue Chip League Club for no obvious reason? Now supposing Scottish football goes to the wall as you suggest and all clubs then came under the FA of England then there would be nothing to prevent a club playing their English league games in a Scottish stadium. Enter the Blue Chip league club suddenly able to play their games at Ibrox...............It all may sound a little far fetched but nothing about the way this administration has gone can leave anyone surprised............ Do you see where I am going with this?

[steakbake]

Archie MacPherson goes into bat for the huns.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Archie MacPherson goes into bat for the huns.

There it is..... swept away. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooof.

[shagpile]

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archie macpherson goes into bat for the huns.

ooooofff!

[BarneyK]

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ues-CVA-appeal

Poor poor rangers!!

That story is first class. £8.5million in the pot, £5.5m + going to Duff and Phelps. From a debt of £135 million they are proposing £3.5million. Hilarious.

[Colr]

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That story is first class. £8.5million in the pot, £5.5m + going to Duff and Phelps. From a debt of £135 million they are proposing £3.5million. Hilarious.

if hmrc step in and preemptively liquidate, do d & p then join the. creditors?

[sambajustice]

I was just wondering if the BBC wee at the wind up when they said that if the CVA is accepted then the Huns would exit Administration on 12th JULY!!!!!!!!!!

[Spike Mandela]

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That story is first class. £8.5million in the pot, £5.5m + going to Duff and Phelps. From a debt of £135 million they are proposing £3.5million. Hilarious.

Can't HMRC just get a surveyor in and have Ibrox and Murray Park valued?

[Biggie]

someone at the SFA should get their bollocks roasted for not knowing their own rules...'kin amateurs
P.S Oh aye, **** off archie

[CropleyWasGod]

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if hmrc step in and preemptively liquidate, do d & p then join the. creditors?

They can't do it, whilst the administration is ongoing.

[Leithenhibby]

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Could this be the intention from the very start. Bring Scottish football to the brink and finish it as a seperate entity?
Was there not a rumour some time back that Rangers, or an arm of Rangers, had purchased a Blue Chip League Club for no obvious reason? Now supposing Scottish football goes to the wall as you suggest and all clubs then came under the FA of England then there would be nothing to prevent a club playing their English league games in a Scottish stadium. Enter the Blue Chip league club suddenly able to play their games at Ibrox...............It all may sound a little far fetched but nothing about the way this administration has gone can leave anyone surprised............ Do you see where I am going with this?

Only until Independence

[CropleyWasGod]

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Can't HMRC just get a surveyor in and have Ibrox and Murray Park valued?

Why would they? That would cost money. All they need to do is vote against the CVA.

[scoopyboy]

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ues-CVA-appeal

Poor poor rangers!!

Let me say first of all a lot of this financial and legal stuff has me a bit confused, not my area of expertise.

How can people be asked to vote to accept a CVA when it doesn't specify what they are being asked to accept?

It's like one of these silly TV Quiz shows.

Newsnight at 11pm on BBC2 is going to be good seemingly.

[BarneyK]

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Can't HMRC just get a surveyor in and have Ibrox and Murray Park valued?

Isn't Green already shouting to anyone who'll listen that they're worth £115 million or something? That is, unless it's for the benefit of creditors...then they're worthless.

[Bishop Hibee]

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ues-CVA-appeal

Poor poor rangers!!

No wonder Green wants a CVA. He's due £4m if his plans work out.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23877539/

My gut feeling is the SFA will go with the £100,000 fine and maybe a 3 year ban from the Scottish Cup. The same Scottish Cup many huns were wanting to boycott. Hardly a punishment. The whole farce is beginning to stink to high heaven.

[joe breezy]

Hun feature on newsnight Scotland now

[Colr]

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No wonder Green wants a CVA. He's due £4m if his plans work out.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23877539/

My gut feeling is the SFA will go with the £100,000 fine and maybe a 3 year ban from the Scottish Cup. The same Scottish Cup many huns were wanting to boycott. Hardly a punishment. The whole farce is beginning to stink to high heaven.

could Brian Kennedy step in and make a higher offer for the assets and start a bidding war?

[Colr]

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Hun feature on newsnight Scotland now

keep us up to date.

[JohnStephens91]

Have UEFA or FIFA not stepped in yet to either stamp out the manky Gers or the Scottish league system yet? Surely taking the national football association to a court which isn't the Court of Arbitration for Sport is directly contravening the rules that UEFA and FIFA have. I have a funny feeling the Bluenosers will be saved by the brownosers in the the SFA/SPL with limited sanctions, or that Scottish football will be almost wiped out completely because of Rangers thinking they are above all the rules and laws of the game in Scotland.

[blackpoolhibs]

Prof Chris Bailey in London seems to think HMRC will take the 9p in the £ offer.

[matty_f]

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Prof Chris Bailey in London seems to think HMRC will take the 9p in the £ offer.

Great. I think we should all push to pay less than a tenth of our tax liabilities in that case.

[DH1875]

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keep us up to date.

It's a load of kite so far. A lot of questions have still to be asked and answered . Somethings happening on the 14th June .