Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[blackpoolhibs]

We are witnessing the death of a giant, yes please, although if you ask me its more of a dinosaur.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i do hope every chairman of every SPL club watched that

[Billy Whizz]

I had a hun friend who text me after the match on Saturday "Rangers are not the only club with problems'"
Ours will last for a few months, there's may be terminal

[Matty_Jack04]

@alextomo: Craig Whyte tonight: "thereks no way I duped David Murray. He fooled me if anything. I've been made the fall guy for all this."


Haha this Craig whyte is genius

[SMAXXA]

Wowwww simply Wowwww!

If all is true on what the documentery said expect to se Duffer and Duffer removed as administrators in the comming days.

Had to laugh "So that means Duff and Phelps are trying to sue themselves" hahahaha , now that would put the icing on the cake, sums up this whole mess!

Its even more crooked and corupt than I ever realised. If they squirm out of this if beggers belief

[DarrenSQH]

Surely no one can defend rangers after that. It's worse than match fixing.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

The starkest conflict of interests I've ever seen - that boy was quality!

[down-the-slope]

shame the season is over (maybe Beeb wanted it that way ) as I would love a phone in where Dodds gets asked when he is paying the £65k tax hes dodged

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Ellis claiming Craig Whyte told him that Prince Albert of Monaco was one of his backers

Same Prince Albert who pulled his funding from AS Monaco a few years back (hence why they are now in Ligue 2 and owned by Russians).

[The_Todd]

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Surely no one can defend rangers after that. It's worse than match fixing.

Its match fixing over 10 years essentially. And think of the knock on effect this has had on the SPL. If Rangers hadn't managed to pay players by cheating tax then Celtic wouldn't have spent as much to keep up with them, and who knows how healthy the SPL might be right now.

[One Day Soon]

HMRC should be applying right now for removal of the Duff & Phelps and their being replaced with properly independent administrators. The interests of every taxpayer demand that this charade of a 'mates rates' administration is blown wide open.

[cabbageandribs1875]

warner brothers, or disney film studios will have to make a film about that 'proud institution'

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Its even more crooked and corupt than I ever realised. If they squirm out of this if beggers belief

On the back of that programme, it'll be game over for football in Scotland if they do.

[Saorsa]

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We are witnessing the death of a giant, yes please, although if you ask me its more of a dinosaur.

It's a giant dinosaur

[Barney McGrew]

After Duff and Duffer get their jotters the next question should be asked of the current SFA president, who took £95k out tax free.

Campbell Ogilvie did know. He must tender his resignation immediately.

[Ryan91]

Hopefully someone will come up with a picture of that Sammy bloke looking glum right at the very end.

Made me smile

[Beefster]

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Murray had no side note so think that means he had no idea about it

I think that the BBC doesn't have evidence of a side letter. It doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. It's highly unlikely that anyone applied from a 'loan' from a trust that they had no idea about.

[Mon Dieu4]

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not that exciting I'm afraid.

Basically he was saying that the SPL can only enforce the rules as they exist. He clearly believes, or at least says he does, that there is no rule to stop a newco from taking rangers place in the league. I haven't checked yet but he reckoned SPL rules 11 & 13 means they can do a newco and get straight back in and that 14 which is the ones the club vote on would not come into play in this scenario.

I basically said that as a business I would not be happy at the SPL condoning one of there clubs running up debts with small businesses and then walking away from those debts. For that reason I was reconsidering my support to scottish football (which is fairly minimal but none the less). he gave the right noises about understanding but said again that they can only enforce the rules as they currently stand. I didn't have a copy of the rules so just said that I sincerely hoped they would be and that a lot of people would be watching to make sure they where.

He mentioned english clubs doing newcos a lot and I just said thats England, this is Scotland and i don't no of any newco examples in Scotland which sets a precedent. he didn't either.

hats off to him for phoning me, and he was at least prepared to give his position and point of view, however I'm not sure he yet gets what is about to happen.

Wish I had been better prepared but TBH never expected an email reply never mind a phone call so quickly.

you should 1471 him after that program and see what he has to say now

[semaj64]

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I've been saying as much for months.
Craig whyte was allowed to think he was brokering the deal of a lifetime. Thought he was smart but murray is no fool. He has saved himself a small fortune.

Probably was the plan from the start

[silverhibee]

Have the fraud squad knocked down the front door of RFC yet.

And i bet a lot of these folk mentioned in that programme are all out the country by now.

[SMAXXA]

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After Duff and Duffer get their jotters the next question should be asked of the current SFA president, who took £95k out tax free.

Campbell Ogilvie did know. He must tender his resignation immediately.

I tend to agree.

It was probably only a matter of time before a member of the ESTABLISHMENT got rummbled for something crooked in this, get rid of them and the SFA. The SFA must be losing further credability in this. Scotland for change

[Www1875hfc]

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After Duff and Duffer get their jotters the next question should be asked of the current SFA president, who took £95k out tax free.

Campbell Ogilvie did know. He must tender his resignation immediately.

And he is guilty of the same at Heart Of Midlothian.

Most,if not all the Liths are on double contracts.

Just wait and see,once Rangers are well out the road,HMRC have a list of clubs,and HOMFC are 1.

[3pm]

Does anyone know if this affects their invite to the Premiership?!

[Greentinted]

If someone presented this narrative as a TV/Film drama, it'd get laughed out for its lack of feasibility.

Prince Albert of Monaco (and his PA looking bewildered when asked about Berts secret financing of Rangers), wee Sammy of Govan, Sir Davie doing a ****gy, and advice to the administrators re the conflict of interests - "Maybe Duff and Phelps should sue themselves"

Arguably the best documentary on TV this year.

[GreenPJ]

Did anything come out about phone tapping?

[down-the-slope]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-18148818

That is a great list

Some on there got a loan equivelant to £30,000 per game played

After an enjoyable hour sped past watching that...surely a series must be possible with the speed of at the moment...would make the football free summer better and go well with our thread

[bighairyfaeleith]

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you should 1471 him after that program and see what he has to say now

strangely enough he called from an unknown number, however he has my mobile so i'm sure he will call me to tell me I was right

[semaj64]

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Did anything come out about phone tapping?

That will be next weeks as they listen in on all the calls tonight

[SMAXXA]

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Did anything come out about phone tapping?

Na but theres certainly been some ASS tapping going on

[Dalianwanda]

I just had a quick look on rangersmedia as can't get the programme in cork...apparently nothing new and nothing to worry about