Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Saorsa]

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Stewart Regan on SFA website:

Spoken like a true OF stooge.

[Spike Mandela]

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Maybe.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...36&newsID=9731

Holy Crap. It's an open invitation to Rangers that he will bend over and take it up the erchie. Truly breathtaking

[magpie1892]

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Holy Crap. It's an open invitation to Rangers that he will bend over and take it up the erchie. Truly breathtaking

It's not good, is it? But they're still in a world of trouble.

[Seveno]

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At least they are going to the end occupied by their wee cousins.

[calmac12000]

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"Rangers supporters are appalled by this decision which brings shame on the SFA and the national game."

What far off planet do these beings come from ?

I'm afraid this sort of nonsense is fairly typical of the semi-literate quasi-historical verbiage purveyed by the literate element of the Hun's support.
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[Seveno]

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Maybe.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...36&newsID=9731

I think you can read anything you want into this statement - positive or negative. Having set up this new disciplinary procedure, it will be very hard to backtrack.

Let's wait and see.

[NAE NOOKIE]

No way in a million years the Weegie cops would allow this. It would be bloody carnage.

We may look apon the Yams as diet huns, but I would be willing to bet that any Rankgers fans trying to disrupt their big day would be in for a shock when the Yams decide to show a decided lack of sympathy for the cause.

What our reaction would be doesnt even bear ( no pun intended ) thinking about.

The current buns are used to turning up at ER and the PBS mob handed and getting their own way. With circa 50,000 unsympathetic or hostile Edinburgh fans in the area I wouldnt fancy the chances of any current bun who tried to chain themselves to turnstyles or do anything else to disrupt the match.

Their rubbish, cheating club is getting its just desserts and they should show some class and suck it up !!! That'll be the day

[killie-hibby]

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Holy Crap. It's an open invitation to Rangers that he will bend over and take it up the erchie. Truly breathtaking

Regan's last paragraph seems to suggest a submissive attitude towards the Govan Cheats.

[scoopyboy]

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At least they are going to the end occupied by their wee cousins.

Don't get this.

Has the Cup Final been moved to Saturday 28th April?

[jgl07]

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Don't get this.

Has the Cup Final been moved to Saturday 28th April?

There were suggestions of doing a suffragette protest on Cup Final day and handcuffing themselves to turnstiles.

[killie-hibby]

BBC Sportsound on now. Sycophantic Traynor and Dodds are still wearing blinkers. They are accusing the SFA of harming Rangers via dishing out "willy nilly punishments". Traynor says the directors and not the football club should be punished. Their selective memory omits the fact that the club stole points and trophies. They would have us believe it was the directors who played in matches. How sad, these pundits are fuelling the desire for neandethral fans to go on protest marches and disrupt the cup final. Once again the so called "experts" are an embarrassment due to their blinkered and myopic thinking.

[Wat Dabney]

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BBC Sportsound on now. Sycophantic Traynor and Dodds are still wearing blinkers. They are accusing the SFA of harming Rangers via dishing out "willy nilly punishments". Traynor says the directors and not the football club should be punished. Their selective memory omits the fact that the club stole points and trophies. They would have us believe it was the directors who played in matches. How sad, these pundits are fuelling the desire for neandethral fans to go on protest marches and disrupt the cup final. Once again the so called "experts" are an embarrassment due to their blinkered and myopic thinking.

Traynor should not be allowed on the BBC - conflict of interest - he knows his newspaper will suffer if Rangers go bust.

......and Dodds? He's just a Rangers sycophant.

[snooky]

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There were suggestions of doing a suffragette protest on Cup Final day and handcuffing themselves to turnstiles.

Talk about making the polis's job easy for them, FFS.

[Westie1875]

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Traynor should not be allowed on the BBC - conflict of interest - he knows his newspaper will suffer if Rangers go bust.

......and Dodds? He's just a Rangers sycophant.

Just heard some interview from Sally McCoist, utterly ridiculous IMO, according to him the big bad SFA are putting them out of business - never mind any blame for getting themselves into this mess in the first place. "The SFA aren't doing enough to help us", why should they? There are rules in place for a reason, play by the rules or be punished, it really is pretty straightforward. Heaven forbid they have to cut their wage bill to the same or less than most other spl teams, most of us manage fine, time for people at Ibrox to get real and understand they have no devine right to spend money they don't have.

[woody47]

How funny would it be if, just once, both sets of Edinburgh fans joined in union on cup final day to show how much we detest everything about that disease they call rankers.
Do these morons actually believe that other clubs' fans actually have even one ounce of sympathy for them?
I for one hate them for everything they stand for and can only wish them the very worst of luck in everything they try and do. Lets hope they just die and never come back.

[snooky]

Aye, the last paragraph :Quote: “Rangers have been part of the fabric of Scottish football’s history and are integral to its future prosperity.
“The Scottish FA must act with integrity and with the best interests of the game at heart. It is with this in mind that we await any appeal from the club.”
Let's just forget about the


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[hibsquaker]

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I think you can read anything you want into this statement - positive or negative. Having set up this new disciplinary procedure, it will be very hard to backtrack.

Let's wait and see.

"Rangers have been part of the fabric of Scottish football's history and are integral to its future prosperity.
"The Scottish FA must act with integrity and with the best interests of the game at heart. It is with this in mind that we await any appeal from the club."

Whole thing is obviously spin. The above is an open invitation to appeal - at which point it'll be totally reduced.

[Wat Dabney]

Just found this link on google about Billy Dodds voting against a cva when at Dundee FC. Seems a bit of a hypocrite when now talking about RFC.

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Sport/Fo...-is-clear.html

[Hibernia&Alba]

Let's play devil's advocate for a moment. Do you think the Huns have a point in saying it's harsh to fine them now and impose the twelve month transfer embargo before the big tax case verdict? Administration states a ten points deduction, which has happened. Shouldn't other potential sanctions wait until later, or are they reasonable, in light of what Craig Whyte did?

[Leithenhibby]

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"Rangers have been part of the fabric of Scottish football's history and are integral to its future prosperity.
"The Scottish FA must act with integrity and with the best interests of the game at heart. It is with this in mind that we await any appeal from the club."

Whole thing is obviously spin. The above is an open invitation to appeal - at which point it'll be totally reduced.

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I think you can read anything you want into this statement - positive or negative. Having set up this new disciplinary procedure, it will be very hard to backtrack.

Let's wait and see.

I agree, lets just wait and see. I'm not so sure they (sfa) are about to buckle with the pressure from D&P

There are lots of ways this article could be interpreted

“The Scottish FA has a responsibility to all its members and must implement its rules without fear or favour. Hold Tight Guys

[Spike Mandela]

BBC Sportsound made me so angry. It was all "damaging Scottish football this" and "damaging Scottish football that", "Craig Whyte should be punished not Rangers". Honestly, the entire panel except Jim Spence was in tears at the 'injustice' of it all.

All contributors to the program including *****house from Duff and Phelps, Traynor, Dodds McCoist and a guy from the Rangers Assembly were outraged. They all also agreed that Rangers SHOULD be punished but when pressed on what punishment all they could say was this was to severe or financial sanctions sufficient.

What they were saying without actually saying it was "Rangers should be punished by a punishment that isn't really a punishment but looks like a punishment"

The appeal is a certainty to be upheld and will be the day that Scottish Football proves it is governed by money and is corrupt.

[Leithenhibby]

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BBC Sportsound made me so angry. It was all "damaging Scottish football this" and "damaging Scottish football that", "Craig Whyte should be punished not Rangers". Honestly, the entire panel except Jim Spence was in tears at the 'injustice' of it all.

All contributors to the program including *****house from Duff and Phelps, Traynor, Dodds McCoist and a guy from the Rangers Assembly were outraged. They all also agreed that Rangers SHOULD be punished but when pressed on what punishment all they could say was this was to severe or financial sanctions sufficient.

What they were saying without actually saying it was "Rangers should be punished by a punishment that isn't really a punishment but looks like a punishment"

The appeal is a certainty to be upheld and will be the day that Scottish Football proves it is governed by money and is corrupt.

100% spot on ...

[Spike Mandela]

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Let's play devil's advocate for a moment. Do you think the Huns have a point in saying it's harsh to fine them now and impose the twelve month transfer embargo before the big tax case verdict? Administration states a ten points deduction, which has happened. Shouldn't other potential sanctions wait until later, or are they reasonable, in light of what Craig Whyte did?

Ok so ten point pentalty and then a p in the £ CVA. Then all the creditors have to sit back and watch Rangers spend large sums in the transfer market. Even without the BTC they owe around £50 m to creditors including other football teams . Now THAT'S harsh.

[grunt]

More interesting stuff

http://www.thelawyer.com/full-extent...012303.article

[ancienthibby]

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Ok so ten point pentalty and then a p in the £ CVA. m to creditors including other football teams . Now THAT'S harsh.

Then all the creditors have to sit back and watch Rangers spend large sums in the transfer market. Even without the BTC they owe around £50

Nae chance, RFC do not have, and will not have, any funds to put into the transfer market!

As I have said before, RFC next year will be made up of has-beens that no other clubs wants and 50% of their under-19 team!!

AS IT SHOULD BE!!

[PatHead]

Do these apologists not realise that Rangers are in the process of not paying fees to Hearts, Austria Vienna?, Arsenal, Manchester City, Dundee Utd, Dunfermline (though supporters have paid this). They have had the cheek to sell a player to Everton at a great profit without paying his club. I am amazed an embargo was not imposed earlier.

With regard to Fat Ally's comments regarding naming the panel that is the same as asking for the names and addresses of the jury after being found guilty.

[ancienthibby]

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Do these apologists not realise that Rangers are in the process of not paying fees to Hearts, Austria Vienna?, Arsenal, Manchester City, Dundee Utd, Dunfermline (though supporters have paid this). They have had the cheek to sell a player to Everton at a great profit without paying his club. I am amazed an embargo was not imposed earlier.

With regard to Fat Ally's comments regarding naming the panel that is the same as asking for the names and addresses of the jury after being found guilty.

Hoi,

Be careful what you say!!

Fat Ally only looks like that because he raided Watty's wardrobe and so now dress himself in Watty's white shirt, his Rankgers tie, his well-used knitted deep-blue waistcoat, his handmedown blazer and his hadtobewidened grey slacks.

You cannot accuse the boy of not trying!!

[ScottB]

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Do these apologists not realise that Rangers are in the process of not paying fees to Hearts, Austria Vienna?, Arsenal, Manchester City, Dundee Utd, Dunfermline (though supporters have paid this). They have had the cheek to sell a player to Everton at a great profit without paying his club. I am amazed an embargo was not imposed earlier.

With regard to Fat Ally's comments regarding naming the panel that is the same as asking for the names and addresses of the jury after being found guilty.

Like Lennon, but with a bit more intelligence about it, he's doing his best to deflect the supports anger on to anybody that isn't himself or Saint Sir Murray Lord of Govan.

But it is an utter nonsense, as those peoples lives would likely be in danger should their identities be published. Rules that are good enough for criminal trials are good enough for a football one. This nonsense that Rangers should be treated differently, apparently by people they know, and presumably approve of?

As for the appeal, isn't it also heard by an independent? On what grounds can they appeal, is there anything beyond them not being happy? I'd have thought you'd need new evidence or something along those lines...

[SurferRosa]

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Do these apologists not realise that Rangers are in the process of not paying fees to Hearts, Austria Vienna?, Arsenal, Manchester City, Dundee Utd, Dunfermline (though supporters have paid this). They have had the cheek to sell a player to Everton at a great profit without paying his club. I am amazed an embargo was not imposed earlier.

With regard to Fat Ally's comments regarding naming the panel that is the same as asking for the names and addresses of the jury after being found guilty.

That`s so they can receive their obligatory death threats and bullets through the post.

[HFC 0-7]

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Do these apologists not realise that Rangers are in the process of not paying fees to Hearts, Austria Vienna?, Arsenal, Manchester City, Dundee Utd, Dunfermline (though supporters have paid this). They have had the cheek to sell a player to Everton at a great profit without paying his club. I am amazed an embargo was not imposed earlier.

With regard to Fat Ally's comments regarding naming the panel that is the same as asking for the names and addresses of the jury after being found guilty.

The club should already know who the people are as according to regan, the member clubs OK'd the appointment of 3 people from a list of 100. I think McCoist probably does know who they people are he just wants someone to make all the raging rangers fans know who these people are.