I didn't say anything about it being "countrywide", but I do stand by my statement that there are councils in Britain who refuse to be too open in their celebration of Christmas, because they do not want to offend minority groups. It was only a few days ago that I noticed a lit sign that has been put up in my home town centre, saying "Season's Greetings". No mention whatsoever of Christmas.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Although many people will probably see me as homophobic, what exactly did I say there that could be construed as homophobic? I was stating something that actually happened. A publicly funded initiative was set up in Glasgow, inviting homosexual, bisexual and transsexual people to deface a copy of the Bible by writing messages inside it which, in my view, were vulgar.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Any chance that you could maybe address the points of my post that you have quoted, instead of making this kind of rant because I have no idea what you are on about here. Unless, God forbid, you actually agree with me that there is absolutely no chance that the Qur'an would have been abused in such a manner.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For a start, I have never used a term, like the one in bold, in my life.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And yes, Muslims have as much right to worship their faith and celebrate their festivals as anyone else. This is not about Muslims rights being decreased, it's about Christian festivals being embraced openly and publicly, which I do not believe is the case at the moment.
I agree that amongst the general British public, Islam is far from embraced. However I do believe that Islam is viewed in a favourable light by the people in charge.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/442024-c...-too-religious
Will those two examples do for now?
This Metropolitan Community Church openly embraces homosexuality, in fact most of their members are from the LGBT community. It's therefore hardly surprising that they were behind such an initiative.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
However I would tend to call into question a group that call themselves Christians and yet apparently find it perfectly acceptable for their Holy book to be defaced, regardless of the nature of the messages.
I don't believe that any real Christian would think it's OK to vandalise the Bible.
Tolerance of, and embracing, homosexuality is part of living in a diverse society. Therefore, I would say that this kind of stunt was done in the name of diversity.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What would you call it?
In this hypothetical example, provided that they meet all the criteria, the whole family should be allowed into the UK and the wife should be made to attend regular English lessons. Obviously the family is coming to the UK primarily because of the husband's skills as a surgeon. Therefore, the fact that he can speak English should take precedence over the fact that his wife cannot.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Where there's just one person coming over, that person should be able to speak English to be eligible for entry into this country.
Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly enough. I was meaning more that it's up to those countries to bring in a law that says all immigrants must learn how to speak the language of that country, if they can't already do so.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I would rather contribute towards paying for English lessons for immigrants, than pay for leaflets to get printed in dozens of different languages. The English lessons will help to integrate foreigners into the local community, whereas leaflets printed in Urdu, Polish and Chinese do nothing of the sort and it just alienates them from their community.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Exactly, I totally agree. Communication is critical to living successfully. Therefore, a country such as Britain should have one language (English). If you start having people speaking hundreds of different languages, then how can people be expected to communicate effectively?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-11-2009 04:49 PM #151
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If it was being defaced by the BNP for inciting racial tension, then yes, I would condemn it, in exactly the same way I would condemn muslims defacing the bible for the same reason.
On your final point I do not think there is a single real example you can find of a Christian being denied the opportunity to celebrate their faith within their religion.
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteDid you actually read your own links. The first one expressly states that they did include Christmas, and the second seems to be about a privately organised village arts festival.
Seriosuly pathetic.
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29-11-2009 06:14 PM #153
Has anyone considered the option of restricting people who don't speak English to seperate areas of the city. That way it is safer for them and they won't have to worry about being picked on by other cultures. It worked for Botha.
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30-11-2009 07:47 AM #155
Won't anyone think of the children?!?
It's hard to stitch my own back with these shaky hands
But even harder to accept the scars you left were planned
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30-11-2009 10:48 AM #156
I could be worse, some Austrians want to ban Santa!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...Christmas.html
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30-11-2009 10:57 AM #157
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Well for that at least, you should be commended.
"Although I know this is a catering company who rent the space from Hibs, it doesn't show Hibs up in a great light as their customer service is crap."
You stand by it so much that you try and turn your hatred of the poles into bad customer service issue. Way to stand up for your opinions.
WE ARRA SHEEPLE!!!
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteDon't remember posting that any of the johnny foreigners in BTG were Poles. That you make assumptions again?
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I personally don't know if they were Eastern European, I don't think if I had asked them that they would have been able to answer, seeing as they didn't speak English.
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We should look to put our own house in order before we lambast those who have upped sticks and are willing to move to pastures anew and make a go at a new life.It's hard to stitch my own back with these shaky hands
But even harder to accept the scars you left were planned
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I didn't answer your question because it was peurile. But if you must know I've been to behind the goals and have been served by the same 'jonny foreigners' as you have that's how I know that they are polish.
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Who did these manual jobs before all the foreign migrants?
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And how do you know they are polish? Did you try to chat them up and they told you to "Spierdalaj"?
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That would have been the Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and the Indians. Maybe even the Irish. IIRC a lot of British people were taking advantage of their new found EU status and were in Germany and Holland doing work over there.
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Hmmm, don't remember many of them picking berries and tatties to be honest with you.
And were the British people going to Germany and The Netherlands doing menial work over there? And what I mean by that is cleaning, agricultural, service industry? I personally don't think so.
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FWIW I'm spoken for so I didn't try and chat them up, but I have spent enough time in Poland to recognise the language when I hear it spoken.
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Like it or not, we're full of fat, lazy, spoiled indolent types who don't really want to work, yet see think nothing of coming out with virulent racism against those who do, usually while blowing cigarette smoke or swirling back cheap lager.
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I think that growing up, you have been surrounded by people, who like you, think that a word with more than two syllables is a 'fancy word' and if you were to try and use these 'fancy words' you would be shot down by your toothless Dundonian mates. Instead of having a bit of back bone and developing your vocabulary regardless you felt that to fit in you'd be better off adopting this attitude as well.
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Immigrants doing menial work has both historical and current context. The history of Britain shows many influxes of immigrants over time. In particular the Irish and West Indians have come to this country and had to start out doing menial work. More recently the exponential growth of our economy in the 1990s and early 2000s coupled with EU immigration laws created an environment in Britain where there was many new low paid jobs and a large supply of immigrant workers.
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThat made me laugh, it truly did. Especially the "toothless Dundonian mates".
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