If someone is contributing to our society (paying tax etc) I have no problem with what language they speak. Does it really matter that an OAP immigrant can't speak English, I don't think that it has a significant impact on our society.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Apart from the the production of multi-lingual leaflets how does this country pander to minorities?
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25-11-2009 11:36 AM #91
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It stands to reason (in my eyes anyway) that a University would consider the potential benefit of taking an International student ahead of a domestic student, as they profit 3xfold. It's good "business". And yes, it is win-win, as it means that domestic students continue to receive subsidised fees, but the willingness to attract foreign students seems to overlook basic requirements as far as I can see. I don't understand why UK institutions (as none of us do it) follow the American Model and assess their suitability in terms of basic literacy and numeracy skills in the host language.
I guess your final point is key in covering that though, that if international students can't understand the work/assessments etc, they won't gain a qualification or pass.It's hard to stitch my own back with these shaky hands
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25-11-2009 06:00 PM #94
You are absolutely right, especially it would appear that a vast number of indigenous Britons struggle with the language. Listen to some of the adverts on TV - especially for hay kay (Silvrikin and such like) and tell me what language they are spoking on?[/QUOTE]
Do they even make that these days?
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25-11-2009 08:19 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do they even make that these days?[/QUOTE]
Been a long time since I had to worry about what brand of shampoo I buy.
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25-11-2009 08:31 PM #96This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In Poland's cities, almost every restaurant has an English menu, not just the British ones.
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26-11-2009 05:43 AM #97
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I am tired of this country worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.
However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
This idea of Scotland being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Scots, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if they wish to become part of our society, learn the language!
If God offends them, then I suggest they consider another part of the world as their new home, because God is part of our culture.. If St. Andrews flag offends them, then they should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how they did things where they came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow them every opportunity to enjoy all this.
But once they are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I encourage them to take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.
We didn't force them to come here. If they don't like it GO HOME!!
They asked to be here.. So they should accept the country that accepted them. Pretty easy really, when you think about it.
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26-11-2009 06:06 AM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As far as I see it, you're the only person whining and griping. I've never heard any immigrant complaining about "Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life".
Just paranoid right wing racists.
You say not against immigratiion, but you don't seem to want to help immigrants assimilate in any way.
That sounds like lip service to me.
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26-11-2009 07:54 AM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-11-2009 08:26 AM #100
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26-11-2009 08:34 AM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
N.B. Oh right, this is one of those circular internet things that idiots pass amongst themselves.
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/beamerican.html
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26-11-2009 08:49 AM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
How about the Italians who may have fought here but we interned during that same war. How about the Scots Italians who perished on the Arandora Star? Their reaction? They got on with rebuilding their lives after the war as Scots.
How about the Irish who settled over here and despite facing discrimantion made Scotland their home and, (lest we forget), also formed the club that we all support.
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Go on, tell me what our culture is again? I really don't think you have a grasp of it at all.Last edited by marinello59; 26-11-2009 at 09:01 AM.
Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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26-11-2009 08:53 AM #104This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Disappointing too, as AH is usually good at formulating arguments from their own thoughts.
Downright plagiarised second-hand moral outrage.It's hard to stitch my own back with these shaky hands
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26-11-2009 10:06 AM #106
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I think it just encapsulated everything she stands for alot more eloquently than she could have put it herself. My favourite bit is where she tells the immigrants to GO HOME just like a racist. But of course this is all ironic and the joke's on us.
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Christmas has for the last couple of thousand years been known as Christmas. Even for those who are not religious Christmas stands for giving and receiving presents and spending time with the family. Personally I do not see the point in changing the name to prevent people who would not be offended from being offended. Just crazy.
As an aside I think Christmas should be renamed Santamas
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26-11-2009 11:26 AM #109This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think that more people Scottish or otherwise would be offended by this intolerante bile than the St Andrew's flag.
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mmm?
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What do you think AH?
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26-11-2009 12:11 PM #115
In response to Miss Littlejohn's heartfelt plea, I have composed a song in reply. I hope nobody thinks it is someone else's work.
Michael McGrory from west Donegal
You came to Glasgow with nothing at all
You fought the landlord then the Afrika korps
When you came to Glasgow with nothing at all
Abraham Caplan from Vilnius you came
You were heading for New York but Leith's where you've stayed
You built a great business which benefits all
Since you came to this land with nothing at all
In Scotland's story I read that they came
The Gael and the Pict, the Angle and Dane
But so did the Irishman, Jew and Ukraine
They're all Scotland's Story and they're all worth the same
Joseph D'Angelo dreams of the days
When Italian kids in the Grassmarket played
We burned out his shop when the boys went to war
But auld Joe's a big man and he forgave all
In Scotland's story I'm told that they came
The Gael and the Pict, the Angle and Dane
But where's all the Chinese and Indian names?
They're in my lands story and they're all worth the same
Christina McKay, I learned of your name
How you travelled south from Delny one day
You raised a whole family in one room they say
And the X on the line stands in place of your name
So in the old story I'll bet that I came
From Gael and Pict and Angle and Dane
And a poor migrant girl who could not write her name
It's a common old story but it's mine just the same
All through the story the immigrants came
The Gael and the Pict, the Angle and Dane
From Pakistan, England and from the Ukraine
We're all Scotland's story and we're all worth the same
Your Scotland's story is worth just the same
EIN REICH, EIN VOLK, EIN PROCLAIMERS!!Last edited by Phil D. Rolls; 26-11-2009 at 12:15 PM.
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26-11-2009 12:44 PM #116
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26-11-2009 12:53 PM #117
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A friend of mine told me a story about when he went into work on his first day, the guy sat next to him starts telling him about how he caught his wife in bed with his mate the night before and how he was getting a divorce. My mate, having never met the guy before does what anyone else would do and says 'aaaw that's terrible man, better off without her' etc. etc. The guy then turned round and went 'Ahahahahahahah! Can't believe you actually fell for it! Ahahahahahaha!'
Moral of the story is, the guy who told the joke with the intention of making my friend look silly succeeded only in making himself look like a complete c*ck.
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