Christmas Light Switch on in Dundee

[ArabHibee]

What a joke:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6915007.ece

[steakbake]

It's either political correctness gone mad or a rare victory for common sense. I cannot decide which, so enraged am I.

[Peevemor]

Though I'm surprised they put "white" in the name.

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It's either political correctness gone mad or a rare victory for common sense. I cannot decide which, so enraged am I.

How? It's for christmas (as we know it).

[Betty Boop]

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It's either political correctness gone mad or a rare victory for common sense. I cannot decide which, so enraged am I.

[Peevemor]

[danhibees1875]

'white night'

haha


To stay relevant.... totally silly.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Disclaimer: To be read as tongue in cheek... but I think there are some interesting points here...

Maybe its use it or lose it...?

Christianity aint what it used to be if the falling attendances at Church are anything to go by.

Is there not an irony - the apparent lack of interest in religion yet try to mess with a "religious festival" and people are up in arms?

Lets face it Christmas aint what it used to be commercialisation all the way. Think about the children!!! Yes quite...

Religious festival well I understand from wee Frees I know (who dont celebrate Christmas) that its a Pagan festival anyway not a Christian one.

[Jack]

On reading this I read the Wiki entries for Christmas and Christmas controversy.

A bit Americanised, no not just Christmas the wiki pages


Happy Yuletide

[IWasThere2016]

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What a joke:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6915007.ece

- Cooncil mental .. hence I bide in Angus

[Woody1985]

Utterly embarrasing. Where do these ****wits come from? Do people actually vote these aresholes into the council or are the just recruited by a HR department?

It's no wonder that the BNP pick up votes, they'll thrive on this type of ****.

People pay council tax to employ these idiots.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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What a joke:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6915007.ece

They have electricity in Dundee? When did this happen?

[jonty]

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They have electricity in Dundee? When did this happen?

A lot longer than St Johnstone has been around

[hibbytam]

Nothing sinister. Just some marketing guy trying to expand the market demographic by not discriminating on what bronze age myths you believe in.

Oh and Christmas is much much much older than Jesus.

[Peevemor]

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Nothing sinister. Just some marketing guy trying to expand the market demographic by not discriminating on what bronze age myths you believe in.

Oh and Christmas is much much much older than Jesus.

Erm

That's just silly.

[Betty Boop]

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Erm

That's just silly.

December 25th was originally celebrated as a Pagan festival.

[Peevemor]

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December 25th was originally celebrated as a Pagan festival.

That was the winter solstice and Constantine moved Christmas to coincide with it, but to say Christmas predates Christ is, as I said, just silly.

[Dashing Bob S]

Yes, let's face facts, Christmas for 90% of us remains the pagan festival it's always been, in spite of the best efforts of those god-bothering goons to appropriate it and inject their odious and hypocritical piety into the proceedings.

When I'm sitting down to my turkey and drinking the contents of my cellar and watching a decent movie, I certainly won't be thinking about a daft hippie daddies boy who probably didn't actually exist outside of the fantasies of the local drug addicts and community care cases of the time.

[Sir David Gray]

It's not a surprise to me in the slightest, it's the way this country is going.

Children are taught about, and actively encouraged to embrace, Diwali, Eid and Ramadan, but just don't mention Christmas, kids, it might offend people who aren't Christians. That's to be called a "Winter Festival" instead.

It's all in the name of multiculturalism and diversity, apparently.

[IWasThere2016]

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They have electricity in Dundee? When did this happen?

And two Universities. Perth has a prison - and not a lot else

[ArabHibee]

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- Cooncil mental .. hence I bide in Angus

Hence why I bide in Perthshire!


Thinks its just a sad state of affairs when they start doing stuff like this.

[Jack]

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That was the winter solstice and Constantine moved Christmas to coincide with it, but to say Christmas predates Christ is, as I said, just silly.

Are you sure?

[Peevemor]

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Are you sure?

I think there's a clue in the name somewhere.

[Jack]

But surely Christ was only called Christ because he was born on Christmas Day?

[Betty Boop]

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It's not a surprise to me in the slightest, it's the way this country is going.

Children are taught about, and actively encouraged to embrace, Diwali, Eid and Ramadan, but just don't mention Christmas, kids, it might offend people who aren't Christians. That's to be called a "Winter Festival" instead.

It's all in the name of multiculturalism and diversity, apparently.

I bet nobody from the Muslim, Sikh, Hindu or Jewish community complained to Dundee Council about the name of their festival.

[Barney McGrew]

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And two Universities. Perth has a prison - and not a lot else

Is it not really just one University and a Polytechnic that's been allowed to change it's name?

[Twa Cairpets]

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It's not a surprise to me in the slightest, it's the way this country is going.

Children are taught about, and actively encouraged to embrace, Diwali, Eid and Ramadan, but just don't mention Christmas, kids, it might offend people who aren't Christians. That's to be called a "Winter Festival" instead.

It's all in the name of multiculturalism and diversity, apparently.

To take a slightly contrary position, there is a mix up here of religion, christmas and the christmas holiday.

Festive lights, Santa, trees, cards, turkeys - either no link or only the most tenuous link to christianity. What the council have done is give what is now an almost completely unreligious festival undue credibility by being wilfully stupid. The time of the year is known universally (in the West at least) as Christmas. New Year is New Year, Easter is Easter.

Your extension of this stupidity to the wider "issues" you refer to is wrong, unpleasant and unfounded.

[Onceinawhile]

I love how the church voted to express concern.

Nothing like taking the hard line with the council guys.

[ArabHibee]

"A council spokesman said, “The proposal for the Winter Night Light celebration was approved unanimously at a meeting of the city development committee on Monday, August 24.
“The report (submitted to the committee) explained that the Christmas lights will also be switched on for the first time for the event.”
The spokesman said the event will take place across the city centre, with activities at four venues to encourage people to move between them.
“As has been seen with the injuries at the Christmas lights switch-on in Birmingham, large groups of people congregating in one area can present safety issues for the public,” he said."

So Dundee City Council can see into the future and predicted the problems that happened in Birmingham at the weekend? What a bunch of muppets and a crap excuse for changing a well attended event.

[Sir David Gray]

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I bet nobody from the Muslim, Sikh, Hindu or Jewish community complained to Dundee Council about the name of their festival.

Didn't complain about the name of what festival? Sorry if I'm being thick here.

If you're saying what I think you're saying, which is that most people from minority faiths aren't offended in the slightest by the mention, or celebration, of Christmas then I agree completely with you. I don't think Muslims, Sikhs, Jews etc. are offended by Christmas.

Which just makes things like this even more ridiculous.

[ArabHibee]

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Didn't complain about the name of what festival? Sorry if I'm being thick here.

If you're saying what I think you're saying, which is that most people from minority faiths aren't offended in the slightest by the mention, or celebration, of Christmas then I agree completely with you. I don't think Muslims, Sikhs, Jews etc. are offended by Christmas.

Which just makes things like this even more ridiculous.

And what of it if they are offended by it? Why does this country pander so much to minorities?