"Political Correctness Gone Mad..."

[Woody1985]

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I'm allergic to washing, and I take great offence to that. Where do I complain?

I'm not sure.

Does anyone else get the feeling that the young, single, white, hetrosexual male is the biggest 'minority' on the planet?

Anyone can say what the F they like about that particular group and no one is outraged. Why is it deemed more acceptable to take the pss out of large groups of people?

[Mibbes Aye]

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I'm not sure.

Does anyone else get the feeling that the young, single, white, hetrosexual male is the biggest 'minority' on the planet?

Anyone can say what the F they like about that particular group and no one is outraged. Why is it deemed more acceptable to take the pss out of large groups of people?

I think the likes of the BNP do.

The truth is if you're white, male, able-bodied, your life chances are better than if you aren't.

They shouldn't be reasons to automatically be granted a better life though.

[LiverpoolHibs]

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I'm not sure.

Does anyone else get the feeling that the young, single, white, hetrosexual male is the biggest 'minority' on the planet?

Anyone can say what the F they like about that particular group and no one is outraged. Why is it deemed more acceptable to take the pss out of large groups of people?

No, no I don't.

Care to give an example of people saying 'what the F they like' about them/(me)?

[Phil D. Rolls]

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this is true, my little cousin is at nursery in ashgyll i think, and they have too sing that!

Rediculous

are we nto allowed too say black anymore? what do we say? dark shaded? that sounds more offensive if you ask me!
AND, since when does bah bah black SHEEP<<< mean anything about racism? OR have anything too do with black people at all?!

rant over...

I think this is something which has been twisted tbh. My understanding is that the kids can sing any colour of sheep they want. It's meant to encourage their awareness of colours and allow them to use their imagination in a spontaneous way.

[Woody1985]

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I think the likes of the BNP do.

The truth is if you're white, male, able-bodied, your life chances are better than if you aren't.

They shouldn't be reasons to automatically be granted a better life though.

Fair point. Never thought of it like that before.

Personally I don't care if people take the pss I'm just up for a laugh.

[Betty Boop]

Did anyone watch 52 questions about Political Uncorrectness last night? There were clips of shows from the 60s and 70s, Love Thy Neighbour, Alf Garnett, The Black and White Minstrels, plus Jim Davidson (never realised he was such a racist). I couldn't believe what passed as humour, vile racism! Thank goodness we have moved on a bit in our Society, although I still think some hold these entrenched views. Maybe its a generational thing?

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Did anyone watch 52 questions about Political Uncorrectness last night? There were clips of shows from the 60s and 70s, Love Thy Neighbour, Alf Garnett, The Black and White Minstrels, plus Jim Davidson (never realised he was such a racist). I couldn't believe what passed as humour, vile racism! Thank goodness we have moved on a bit in our Society, although I still think some hold these entrenched views. Maybe its a generational thing?

You mean all of us wrinklies are Kloset Kluckers?

[Arch Stanton]

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Did anyone watch 52 questions about Political Uncorrectness last night? There were clips of shows from the 60s and 70s, Love Thy Neighbour, Alf Garnett, The Black and White Minstrels, plus Jim Davidson (never realised he was such a racist). I couldn't believe what passed as humour, vile racism! Thank goodness we have moved on a bit in our Society, although I still think some hold these entrenched views. Maybe its a generational thing?

It could also be a political correctness thing as the OP suggests. Alf Garnet wasn't racist - it was taking the p*ss out of racism. Fair enough Jim Davidson was vile but not the Black and White Minstrels - they were just weird and of their time. I don't see how it can be argued that we are any better nowadays - given that Davidson is still on telly plus a few more like him.

[Betty Boop]

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You mean all of us wrinklies are Kloset Kluckers?

Of course not , what I meant was that nowadays words such as coon, wog, sambo etc are not heard on television.

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You mean all of us wrinklies are Kloset Kluckers?

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Of course not , what I meant was that nowadays words such as coon, wog, sambo etc are not heard on television.

That's all right then.

I remember years ago hearing Johnny Speight talking about Alf Garnett and Till Death Us Do Part. He wrote Alf as a caricature of an East-Ender/ West-Ham-supporting racist and was appalled to find that real East-Ender/ West-Ham-supporting racists were making him a hero.

Speight thought he had made Garnett so obnoxious that no one would identify with him; what he had actually done was to portray accurately a real person.

In the 1940s, '50s and '60s, BTW, the West Ham supporters had a jolly song they sang at the Christmas derby with Spurs -

"Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way,
Oh what fun it is to gas the Jews on Christmas Day...."

Spurs have always had a number of Jewish investors and players in their ranks.

And while Jim Davidson, Roy Chubby Brown, Bernard Manning and the like aren't able to peddle their worst material on terrestrial TV, there's a huge market for their DVDs and videos.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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It could also be a political correctness thing as the OP suggests. Alf Garnet wasn't racist - it was taking the p*ss out of racism. Fair enough Jim Davidson was vile but not the Black and White Minstrels - they were just weird and of their time. I don't see how it can be argued that we are any better nowadays - given that Davidson is still on telly plus a few more like him.

But nowadays we should really know better. Anyone that thinks black people find these things acceptable just hasn't been listening.

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But nowadays we should really know better. Anyone that thinks black people find these things acceptable just hasn't been listening.

BBC couldn't do Garnett now, I don't think.

[majorhibs]

Which "black" people are you referring to here, real people or the people you've created in your head while you run around trying to create something which just isnt really going on in Edinburgh. Granted there is genuine racists around but not as much as you wish for, sorry but you'll have to work harder than that to lord it over all those who dont toe this zealous PC currently fashionable lark, what you want to be focusing your attention on is anyone bullying anyone else, which can happen in any form be it racism, physical attributes, numerical superiority or whatever, that is what is wrong, even the last couple of posters here with their insistence on their view being right through their mocking of anyone differing from their views through to their insistence on ALWAYS (and lengthy in doddies case) having the last word but the issue is the same whichever country you go to, wherever you are- bullying is wrong, the people who do it are wrong, as human beings there will be times when any and all of us will say something which will not be appreciated by someone else but there's people nowadays just champing at the bit to find offence in anything. And why? To me it looks like they are trying to paint themselves as some sort of more enlightened, compassionate better individuals, but that sort of attention seeking is better left back in the old schooldays, when everyone was trying to be more mature than anybody else, all you keyboard intellectuals looking for racism in Edinburgh will more likely find it in attitudes against eastern europeans nowadays but that would mean a bit hard work and going difficult places but its easy just to go down the same old route, eh?

[horseman]

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Which "black" people are you referring to here, real people or the people you've created in your head while you run around trying to create something which just isnt really going on in Edinburgh. Granted there is genuine racists around but not as much as you wish for, sorry but you'll have to work harder than that to lord it over all those who dont toe this zealous PC currently fashionable lark, what you want to be focusing your attention on is anyone bullying anyone else, which can happen in any form be it racism, physical attributes, numerical superiority or whatever, that is what is wrong, even the last couple of posters here with their insistence on their view being right through their mocking of anyone differing from their views through to their insistence on ALWAYS (and lengthy in doddies case) having the last word but the issue is the same whichever country you go to, wherever you are- bullying is wrong, the people who do it are wrong, as human beings there will be times when any and all of us will say something which will not be appreciated by someone else but there's people nowadays just champing at the bit to find offence in anything. And why? To me it looks like they are trying to paint themselves as some sort of more enlightened, compassionate better individuals, but that sort of attention seeking is better left back in the old schooldays, when everyone was trying to be more mature than anybody else, all you keyboard intellectuals looking for racism in Edinburgh will more likely find it in attitudes against eastern europeans nowadays but that would mean a bit hard work and going difficult places but its easy just to go down the same old route, eh?

i take my hat off to you my man .....

[majorhibs]

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i take my hat off to you my man .....

Multicultured, multicoloured hat I hope. Wouldnt want to go offending any of these sensitive souls around here..

[Brizo]

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...has been become a more tired cliche then any so-called example of PC and is only deployed by right-wing bores and/or thickos who absorb tabloid prejudices and spew them out verbatim.

Discuss?

The phrase in my experience has been hijacked by the shopfloor and pub bigots and racists who if pulled up for some unacceptable comment will drag it out as the their first line of defence

Im sure if the phrase had been around circa 1935 A. Hitler would have been coming out with something along the lines of "see these Jews its political correctness gone mad" - in German of course.

[majorhibs]

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The phrase in my experience has been hijacked by the shopfloor and pub bigots and racists who if pulled up for some unacceptable comment will drag it out as the their first line of defence

Im sure if the phrase had been around circa 1935 A. Hitler would have been coming out with something along the lines of "see these Jews its political correctness gone mad" - in German of course.

Actually PC gone mad quite accurately describes posts like yours by people trying to prove how clever they are by looking down on people who have different opinions to them and imo are not quite so far up their own rear ends.

[LiverpoolHibs]

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The phrase in my experience has been hijacked by the shopfloor and pub bigots and racists who if pulled up for some unacceptable comment will drag it out as the their first line of defence

Im sure if the phrase had been around circa 1935 A. Hitler would have been coming out with something along the lines of "see these Jews its political correctness gone mad" - in German of course.

Whereas it is invariably boring as **** (it's essentially a straw-man fallacy, a distortion) when people come out with the "P.C. gone mad!" shtick, the history of the term is actually absolutely fascinating.

[hibsbollah]

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Actually PC gone mad quite accurately describes posts like yours by people trying to prove how clever they are by looking down on people who have different opinions to them and imo are not quite so far up their own rear ends.

I've noticed you are always accusing other people of trying to be 'clever' or 'intellectual' as if this is something to be ashamed of. Can you explain?

[majorhibs]

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I've noticed you are always accusing other people of trying to be 'clever' or 'intellectual' as if this is something to be ashamed of. Can you explain?

Explain what? I dont consider myself to be particularly clever, just an average joe, but I reckon I dont spend a lot of my time looking down my nose at others with a different viewpoint to mine, which is the feeling I get from a lot of people on this site, you know, the type all too ready to jump in & label people as thickos etc... whether I do it always, to all others, I dont know, but it wouldnt take the proverbial rocket scientist to spot on this thread alone who thinks they are coming from down on high to associate with those not as politically correct as themselves.

[hibsbollah]

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Explain what? I dont consider myself to be particularly clever, just an average joe, but I reckon I dont spend a lot of my time looking down my nose at others with a different viewpoint to mine, which is the feeling I get from a lot of people on this site, you know, the type all too ready to jump in & label people as thickos etc... whether I do it always, to all others, I dont know, but it wouldnt take the proverbial rocket scientist to spot on this thread alone who thinks they are coming from down on high to associate with those not as politically correct as themselves.

I can't say I noticed anyone being like that on this thread. Still, as long as they're not jumping down other posters throats and being argumentative just for the sake of it, I don't really mind

[Brizo]

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Actually PC gone mad quite accurately describes posts like yours by people trying to prove how clever they are by looking down on people who have different opinions to them and imo are not quite so far up their own rear ends.

I dont look down on people or think im cleverer than anyone else. And tbh I dont know how you came to that conclusion from my post. I just gave my opinion and if you think its bollocks fair enough but spare the character assasination on someone you dont know.

I can assure you my heads not up my rear end but maybe you should wind your neck in

[Coco Bryce]

Read today that Suggs was asked to be a judge in a beauty contest.

Suggs being a man of principle did not agree with beauty contests as he feels that women parading around in swimsuits and being judged on looks alone is not very edifying. He feels it is exploiting women and degrading to all involved.

This is a typical case of Madness gone politically correct.

[MrRobot]

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Video Games = Australia banned several games

Santa = Shopping centre down south

Xmas Cards = up north at a school

Nativity plays was also down south

All reported in the press and one or two of them on the BBC news online

Manhunt 2 ws banned, GTA 4 was nearly banned, buit they managed to avoid that one.