Just f***ing name them Gogs and stop beating around the bush, you obviously no them so put there names up or just give it a rest with some of the pish, they won't be offended if they are named so let everyone else on .net know who we are dealing with here in case they( admins & others) are in cahoots with the club, because i would be pretty pissed of if that was the case, so name them and get it done if it is true.