Hamas attack on Israel

[MKHIBEE]

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The Israelis successfully rescued two hostages in Gaza... and managed to kill over 60 Palestinians, the majority of whom were innocent civilians, while doing so.

State sponsored murder, supported by many in the West. With much more to come

[Ozyhibby]

Australia now calling for a ceasefire. Starmer and Sunak still happy to carry on.


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[AgentDaleCooper]

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Australia now calling for a ceasefire. Starmer and Sunak still happy to carry on.


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BBC seems to be quite behind on reporting this for sone reason

[Hibrandenburg]

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Australia now calling for a ceasefire. Starmer and Sunak still happy to carry on.


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The conflict in the Middle East is the 2nd most talked about subject at the MSC today. Putin murdering Navalny has knocked it down the pecking order.

[MKHIBEE]

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Australia now calling for a ceasefire. Starmer and Sunak still happy to carry on.


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All very laudable objectives but they might as well be pissing in the wind. Israel do not want a 2 state solution, who is going to make them negotiate one? A land offensive in Rafa would catastrophic? What the hell has it been up to now?
The Palestinians need action, not mealy mouthed platitudes, however laudable they may be

[tamig]

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All very laudable objectives but they might as well be pissing in the wind. Israel do not want a 2 state solution, who is going to make them negotiate one? A land offensive in Rafa would catastrophic? What the hell has it been up to now?
The Palestinians need action, not mealy mouthed platitudes, however laudable they may be

Netanyahu isn’t interested in a two state solution. When he’s voted out, the new people might think differently. Netanyahu is done.

[MKHIBEE]

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Netanyahu isn’t interested in a two state solution. When he’s voted out, the new people might think differently. Netanyahu is done.

They may but I have not seen anything that gives me hope they will.

[AgentDaleCooper]

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Netanyahu isn’t interested in a two state solution. When he’s voted out, the new people might think differently. Netanyahu is done.

When are the elections?

[MKHIBEE]

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When are the elections?

They are not due to be held until October 2026.

[Moulin Yarns]

Someone needs to stop Israeli attacks.


https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.amppro...uthern-lebanon


Absolutely ridiculous behaviour!!!

[DaveF]

It's all good. Our soon to king and overlord has said it should all stop. It's a major intervention apparently...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68343334

[Hibrandenburg]

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It's all good. Our soon to king and overlord has said it should all stop. It's a major intervention apparently...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68343334

I watched that on BBC news and 2 stories later it was about Labour calling for a ceasefire that was doomed to failure according to the BBC.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/owenthompson/status/17...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Who’s telling the truth?


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[McSwanky]

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https://x.com/owenthompson/status/17...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Who’s telling the truth?


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Hard to tell, but it's ****ing depressing that one or both of them are using this conflict as a point scoring exercise. The absolute state of our politics at the moment.

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[Stairway 2 7]

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Hard to tell, but it's ****ing depressing that one or both of them are using this conflict as a point scoring exercise. The absolute state of our politics at the moment.

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All 4 parties involved are completely using the genocide as point scoring, they are all pathetic. The votes going to fail due to the Tories so can each party not just put out an official statement of what their exact opinion is. Stop the trying to trip each other up and arguing about words. Just let the public know your position and don't worry about the other parties conscience

[Ozyhibby]

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All 4 parties involved are completely using the genocide as point scoring, they are all pathetic. The votes going to fail due to the Tories so can each party not just put out an official statement of what their exact opinion is. Stop the trying to trip each other up and arguing about words. Just let the public know your position and don't worry about the other parties conscience

What games are the SNP playing?


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What games are the SNP playing?


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I saw one mp say there are literally lives at stake just vote for the bill, or along they lines. F off no lives are at stake from this bill that will fail. Labour have the right to agree to the wording they want just as the SNP do. Stop the political fake rage.

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https://x.com/owenthompson/status/17...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Who’s telling the truth?


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Snp cheif whip says no contact with him. Lib dems and Labour say they both asked for two state solution to be added. What a load of guff. If a company was run like the bairns at Westminster it would go bust

OwenThompson
Please tell me who you reached out to? As SNP Chief Whip no request was made to me

@wendychambLD
We did reach out last year, and the answer was “no”. We reached out this time, had a meeting, but no change. Both times we asked for a two state solution to be included as the best means for a lasting peace

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I saw one mp say there are literally lives at stake just vote for the bill, or along they lines. F off no lives are at stake from this bill that will fail. Labour have the right to agree to the wording they want just as the SNP do. Stop the political fake rage.

Would Starmers position have moved without the SNP vote?


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Would Starmers position have moved without the SNP vote?


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Probably as the public are now more in favour of a ceasefire so he would do the populist thing, he'd do it ridiculously slowly as he's more worried about the antisemitism label they have.

I think the large gains in three polls yesterday show the general public don't have it high on their priorities unfortunately, so he should have just fully backed ceasefire (if hostages released) earlier

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Probably as the public are now more in favour of a ceasefire so he would do the populist thing, he'd do it ridiculously slowly as he's more worried about the antisemitism label they have.

I think the large gains in three polls yesterday show the general public don't have it high on their priorities unfortunately, so he should have just fully backed ceasefire (if hostages released) earlier

I disagree. If this vote was not happening where would the pressure for him to change position come from? Labour would not have brought this vote. He has moved position because the vote is happening and his mp’s are telling him they will vote with the snp if he does not change.
I do agree that public opinion is of no consequence here. Foreign policy does not move votes at a GE.


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I disagree. If this vote was not happening where would the pressure for him to change position come from? Labour would not have brought this vote. He has moved position because the vote is happening and his mp’s are telling him they will vote with the snp if he does not change.
I do agree that public opinion is of no consequence here. Foreign policy does not move votes at a GE.


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Your right in that he probably would have hoped it would slip away without him having to talk about it. He'll wish tomorrow wasn't happening he seems a leader who doesn't want confrontation or to make a decision. He's lucky the tories are awful as I think many past tory leaders would have destroyed him.

Israel is going to take Rafah Starmer will hope its over by summer. The public forget easily, look at crimea, Kabul and Aleppo. He'll have to be more statesman like when leader though as he looks pathetic and only interested in the public view

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Hard to tell, but it's ****ing depressing that one or both of them are using this conflict as a point scoring exercise. The absolute state of our politics at the moment.

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Sam Coates called it right on Sky News yesterday describing the game playing by all parties as unedifying. None of them are blameless here.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/tomfrench85/status/176...376913999?s=12

Game playing SNP will vote for Labour’s amendment.


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Game playing SNP will vote for Labour’s amendment.


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Good!! regardless who initiated the motion or the wording, let’s get our Government to try pressure for a ceasefire.

[DaveF]

US confirms it will drop aid into Gaza.

Just shows how little influence they have over Israel despite backing them to the hilt, that this is the only way they can get a tiny bit of help to those that need it.

All while supporting the Israeli genocide campaign.

[DaveF]

Israel shooting civilians again, more words from various talking heads but no action.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68454348

What does it take for countries to just denounce and stop supporting the murderous regime.

[Ozyhibby]

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Israel shooting civilians again, more words from various talking heads but no action.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68454348

What does it take for countries to just denounce and stop supporting the murderous regime.

Starmer will be wondering how many replacement bullets we’ll need to send.


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[MKHIBEE]

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Starmer will be wondering how many replacement bullets we’ll need to send.


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As many as they want.

[DaveF]

Police shoot dead a 12 year old kid for lighting a firework. One of 6 Palestinians killed that day.

And the west continues to back this murderous state.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68557147