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    Israeli army is very stretched just now. 70% of them are in the West Bank dealing with uprising there. US may provide back up if Hezbollah open up another front in Lebanon.


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    The soldiers wouldn't be needed too much the airforce pretty much bombing unopposed amd glmrs, it would be like Russia in Syria flattening at will


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Religion has a lot to answer for.
    Indeed. I don't mean to offend anyone but the fighting over whose sky fairy is better is mental in 2023.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Indeed. I don't mean to offend anyone but the fighting over whose sky fairy is better is mental in 2023.
    That’s not what they are fighting over. They are fighting over land and resources same as always. Religion is just being used as a way dividing peoples.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    That’s not what they are fighting over. They are fighting over land and resources same as always. Religion is just being used as a way dividing peoples.


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    Considering Jews and Arabs share a hell of a lot of DNA and genetically speaking share recent common ancestry, it's a pretty safe bet that it was religion that divided the people in the first place and thus the territories.

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    It was tragic hearing the stories coming out of Israel about the atrocities committed by Hamas.

    It's now just as tragic watching news reports of Israel taking revenge on the Gaza strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    It was tragic hearing the stories coming out of Israel about the atrocities committed by Hamas.

    It's now just as tragic watching news reports of Israel taking revenge on the Gaza strip.
    I’m amazed that the death toll in Gaza so far hasn’t been higher given the devastation we can see on TV.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Considering Jews and Arabs share a hell of a lot of DNA and genetically speaking share recent common ancestry, it's a pretty safe bet that it was religion that divided the people in the first place and thus the territories.
    Their religions and cultural practices associated with religious belief share a lot in common too.

    My social media is being bombarded by pro-Israeli stuff just now, it's interesting to see from the comments that the public appear much more inclined to take a critical view of the actions of the IDF than our mainstream media (radio for me rather than telly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    "We're fighting against human animals". Might as well call the Palestinians Untermenschen. Horrible dialogue.
    I submitted a complaint about this, and the totally unbalanced approach to interview.

    The IDF guy was very emotional, but he was also talking nonsense about Palestinians being able to leave their homes in advance of IDF actions and generally using the language of hatred and violence. It largely went unchallenged. Why was there not a representative of the Palestinian community on the programme or maybe someone from a human rights group?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    It was tragic hearing the stories coming out of Israel about the atrocities committed by Hamas.

    It's now just as tragic watching news reports of Israel taking revenge on the Gaza strip.
    https://twitter.com/DominicWaghorn/status/1711989119818076459?t=OZPGDZIj3jYUITR5HGP7bw&s=19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    https://twitter.com/DominicWaghorn/status/1711989119818076459?t=OZPGDZIj3jYUITR5HGP7bw&s=19
    Spokesperson for the isreali PM and Southern commander say child beheaded
    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1712132220809298163

    https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1712105176725590124

    I don't know if it's true or not but it's a weird hill to die on either way. Bairns were shot in there house, hundreds of young people murdered at a festival, now bairns dying in their beds from bombing, grimm grimm

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    https://twitter.com/DominicWaghorn/status/1711989119818076459?t=OZPGDZIj3jYUITR5HGP7bw&s=19
    Biden also says he's seen confirmation of children beheaded, monsters

    https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1712213009534496966

    "It matters that Americans see what is happening. I have doing this a long time – I never thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Biden also says he's seen confirmation of children beheaded, monsters

    https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/statu...13009534496966

    "It matters that Americans see what is happening. I have doing this a long time – I never thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children"
    What happens in Gaza over the next few months is going to be absolutely horrific.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    What happens in Gaza over the next few months is going to be absolutely horrific.


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    Yeah, was a situation that was never going to end well all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    That’s not what they are fighting over. They are fighting over land and resources same as always. Religion is just being used as a way dividing peoples.


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    As below, territories divided by religion.

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    https://x.com/charles_lister/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    6000 bombs dropped already.


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    https://x.com/tbh4justice/status/171...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Good to see dissenting voices in Isreal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    As below, territories divided by religion.
    There's a new podcast on BBC Sounds called 'mandate' that shows how Britain is totally responsible for the religion-based division in Palestine - quite deliberately, to concentrate power in political institutions in Israel, and religious institutions in Palestine. It's not actually religion that's at fault here - it's colonialism. Same story all over the world, even in Northern Ireland. Religion weaponised by empires.
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    "Israeli military has told 1.1 millions Gazans to move to south, UN says."

    “The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences,” UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said in a statement.

    “The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation,” he said."

    If this goes ahead I can't wait to see how our politicians, including human rights lawyer Keir Starmer, defend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    "Israeli military has told 1.1 millions Gazans to move to south, UN says."

    “The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences,” UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said in a statement.

    “The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation,” he said."

    If this goes ahead I can't wait to see how our politicians, including human rights lawyer Keir Starmer, defend it.
    At least Tony Blair waited until he was elected before got he started with the war crimes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentDaleCooper View Post
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    There's a new podcast on BBC Sounds called 'mandate' that shows how Britain is totally responsible for the religion-based division in Palestine - quite deliberately, to concentrate power in political institutions in Israel, and religious institutions in Palestine. It's not actually religion that's at fault here - it's colonialism. Same story all over the world, even in Northern Ireland. Religion weaponised by empires.
    Cheers I'll give that a listen

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    Water needs returned immediately and aid let through. Isreal can't be carpet bombing and must be pushed by all sides just to hit military targets.

    Voices and supporters should be also pleading for the murderous Hamas to release the hostages. They won't as a war suits both sides at the price of civilians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Water needs returned immediately and aid let through. Isreal can't be carpet bombing and must be pushed by all sides just to hit military targets.

    Voices and supporters should be also pleading for the murderous Hamas to release the hostages. They won't as a war suits both sides at the price of civilians
    I’m afraid none of that will happen. Isreal has been given the green light for more war crimes. I fear we are about to witness genocide.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Water needs returned immediately and aid let through. Isreal can't be carpet bombing and must be pushed by all sides just to hit military targets.

    Voices and supporters should be also pleading for the murderous Hamas to release the hostages. They won't as a war suits both sides at the price of civilians
    It’s not looking good, the USA Defence Secretary is currently standing next to his Israeli counterpart to express ironclad support. It’s deeply distressing, so many innocent people on both sides are going to face suffering on a scale those of us safe in the West can only imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    "Israeli military has told 1.1 millions Gazans to move to south, UN says."

    “The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences,” UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said in a statement.

    “The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation,” he said."

    If this goes ahead I can't wait to see how our politicians, including human rights lawyer Keir Starmer, defend it.
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    Hamas telling the civillian human sheilds to stay put.

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...n-trap/675628/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Can you add some info here to read?

    Its behind a wall and I've been pestered enough after signing up to sites like this in the past :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Can you add some info here to read?

    Its behind a wall and I've been pestered enough after signing up to sites like this in the past :-(
    If you open the link in'incognito' tab you should be able to read it, I think

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    Whatever you think of him when it comes to other matters it has to be said that Humza Yousaf has been a class act in the last couple of days. The man must be going through hell with his family situation but his attendance at this event and his actions whilst there are those of a real statesman:

    https://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf/stat...ZxpFpOgug&s=19

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