Sportscene 22/23

**GreenGray** · 10-01-2023 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by where'stheslope

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Not weird when it could have also cost us the win if play was stopped!!!

If we got annoyed about things that almost cost us the win we would spend our lives annoyed! It’s fine, we won!

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**where'stheslope** · 10-01-2023 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by JimBHibees

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Not at all definitely got a knock to the head. Referee was pathetic as clearly outlined by McFadden on co commentary

I'm not looking for an arguement, but have a look on the BBC website of the 3rd goal and tell me where the tackle hits him?
The ref is right beside both players and fortunately carried on play for our 3rd goal.
Seconds later he's up celebrating the goal?

**ancient hibee** · 10-01-2023 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by where'stheslope

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I'm not looking for an arguement, but have a look on the BBC website of the 3rd goal and tell me where the tackle hits him?
The ref is right beside both players and fortunately carried on play for our 3rd goal.
Seconds later he's up celebrating the goal?

He got a shoulder in the gut,probably slightly winded and was on his feet as the ball hit the net.Don’t think he faked anything.

***Argylehibby*** · 10-01-2023 10:00 PM

The head knock wasn't at the time of the 3rd goal and was when Motherwell were on the attack. He was clattered after he passed in the lead up to the 3rd goal but not convinced he was faking a head knock at that point.

**007** · 10-01-2023 10:11 PM

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We need pundits with higher football IQs IMO.

I'd settle for ones with a higher IQ than a football.

***JimBHibees*** · 11-01-2023 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by Argylehibby

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The head knock wasn't at the time of the 3rd goal and was when Motherwell were on the attack. He was clattered after he passed in the lead up to the 3rd goal but not convinced he was faking a head knock at that point.

Yeah I probably got mixed up it was when Motherwell were on attack and ref inexplicably played on after Porto had been elbowed in the head. Assuming another incident in lead up to our third goal was when Goss took him out after he played the ball to Josh Campbell.

***JimBHibees*** · 11-01-2023 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by where'stheslope

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I'm not looking for an arguement, but have a look on the BBC website of the 3rd goal and tell me where the tackle hits him?
The ref is right beside both players and fortunately carried on play for our 3rd goal.
Seconds later he's up celebrating the goal?

Yeah I was thinking about a Motherwell attack Porto got elbowed in the head and ref played on ridiculously. The build up to the third goal he passed it and was taken out late for clear foul.

***Libby Hibby*** · 11-01-2023 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by where'stheslope

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Not weird when it could have also cost us the win if play was stopped!!!

Aye but it didny.

**HIBERNIAN-0762** · 11-01-2023 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by JimBHibees

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Yeah I was thinking about a Motherwell attack Porto got elbowed in the head and ref played on ridiculously. The build up to the third goal he passed it and was taken out late for clear foul.

He would have been booked or sent off for that, ridiculous decision not to book that guy, they were a bunch of cloggers 😡

***Argylehibby*** · 11-01-2023 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by JimBHibees

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Yeah I probably got mixed up it was when Motherwell were on attack and ref inexplicably played on after Porto had been elbowed in the head. Assuming another incident in lead up to our third goal was when Goss took him out after he played the ball to Josh Campbell.

That's right and possibly for the first time on Hibs.net I will compliment the ref for playing advantage!

***LaMotta*** · 22-01-2023 11:10 PM

Just sat through the highlights which was painful. Couple of things stuck out.

Porteous was even worse for the first goal than I thought at the time: 1) inexplicably scoops the ball back into Ginnelly when he could have just seen it out 2) needlessly fouls Ginnelly when he is facing away from goal on the touchline going nowhere 3) should do better heading ball away from free kick.

For the second goal surely it was a foul on Youan from Devlin in the build up? He just runs in and bundles him over nowhere near the ball?! Thought so at the time , even more convinced now.

But also Cadden was absolutely pathetic in allowing Shankland to score. Woeful defending.

***LaMotta*** · 22-01-2023 11:35 PM

Also Jack Ross's suit jacket is a shocker.

**Maguire** · 23-01-2023 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Just sat through the highlights which was painful. Couple of things stuck out.

Porteous was even worse for the first goal than I thought at the time: 1) inexplicably scoops the ball back into Ginnelly when he could have just seen it out 2) needlessly fouls Ginnelly when he is facing away from goal on the touchline going nowhere 3) should do better heading ball away from free kick.

For the second goal surely it was a foul on Youan from Devlin in the build up? He just runs in and bundles him over nowhere near the ball?! Thought so at the time , even more convinced now.

But also Cadden was absolutely pathetic in allowing Shankland to score. Woeful defending.

It was embarrassing, fact is he's never a RB in a million years, would have been better keeping Paul McGinn.

**~~JammyDoidger~~** · 23-01-2023 12:32 AM

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It was embarrassing, fact is he's never a RB in a million years, would have been better keeping Paul McGinn.

Better with Paul McGinn, superb, what shows how bad we are..not how good McGinn was. What a state.

**Maguire** · 23-01-2023 12:34 AM

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Better with Paul McGinn, superb, what shows how bad we are..not how good McGinn was. What a state.

I agree, i'm no great fan of McGinn either btw, we're an absolute car crash from top to bottom

**~~JammyDoidger~~** · 23-01-2023 12:40 AM

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I agree, i'm no great fan of McGinn either btw, we're an absolute car crash from top to bottom

So what do we do about it? Us fans need to do something it's hurting us all! It's time to put these donuts straight or this is going to become the norm!

**Maguire** · 23-01-2023 12:53 AM

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So what do we do about it? Us fans need to do something it's hurting us all! It's time to put these donuts straight or this is going to become the norm!

For me it just about is the norm, its been over 3 years since we've beaten the pricks. As for what do we do, who knows. I can only go off of gut feelings and that feeling is that while the Gordon's are in charge we won't get it right, depressing times indeed, actually makes me feel sick.

***Baader*** · 23-01-2023 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Also Jack Ross's suit jacket is a shocker.

Yes it is. The whole show is utter guff. Might need to come back up and sort it out. Half arsed as usual from BBC Scotland.

***JimBHibees*** · 23-01-2023 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Just sat through the highlights which was painful. Couple of things stuck out.

Porteous was even worse for the first goal than I thought at the time: 1) inexplicably scoops the ball back into Ginnelly when he could have just seen it out 2) needlessly fouls Ginnelly when he is facing away from goal on the touchline going nowhere 3) should do better heading ball away from free kick.

For the second goal surely it was a foul on Youan from Devlin in the build up? He just runs in and bundles him over nowhere near the ball?! Thought so at the time , even more convinced now.

But also Cadden was absolutely pathetic in allowing Shankland to score. Woeful defending.

Thought it was a clear foul also one of many fouls Robertson didn't give us. Surely worth a var check?

***Callum_62*** · 23-01-2023 06:49 AM

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Thought it was a clear foul also one of many fouls Robertson didn't give us. Surely worth a var check?

A VAR check, against hearts?

Give over!

I'm sure the potential foul was analysed very closley by the expert panel the same way it would have been if it was Celtic scoring a 2nd against Rangers

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**Tyler Durden** · 23-01-2023 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Just sat through the highlights which was painful. Couple of things stuck out.

Porteous was even worse for the first goal than I thought at the time: 1) inexplicably scoops the ball back into Ginnelly when he could have just seen it out 2) needlessly fouls Ginnelly when he is facing away from goal on the touchline going nowhere 3) should do better heading ball away from free kick.

For the second goal surely it was a foul on Youan from Devlin in the build up? He just runs in and bundles him over nowhere near the ball?! Thought so at the time , even more convinced now.

But also Cadden was absolutely pathetic in allowing Shankland to score. Woeful defending.

Agree on all points.

Also the farce where they claimed Shankland was unlucky to get booked. They failed to mention it was about his 5th foul, most of them on Rocky. He also elbowed Rocky in the face in the first 10 minutes which wasn't punished at all. Which I seem to recall he did in the first derby of the season aswell. He's due a dull one from somebody soon, the wee rat.

***LaMotta*** · 23-01-2023 08:12 AM

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Agree on all points.

Also the farce where they claimed Shankland was unlucky to get booked. They failed to mention it was about his 5th foul, most of them on Rocky. He also elbowed Rocky in the face in the first 10 minutes which wasn't punished at all. Which I seem to recall he did in the first derby of the season aswell. He's due a dull one from somebody soon, the wee rat.

Aye very good point re Shankland 1st booking, he had about 4 fouls in the first half then 2 digs at Rocky in the one incident that led to his booking.

Berra and Ross clearly hadnt watched the whole game, or they are slavers. Hard to know which. I was swearing at the TV at that point at their shocking punditry.

On the Devlin "tackle" on Youan, Hibs bench was again going mad at Beaton on the touchline asking why it wasnt a foul. Dunno why Johnson doesnt reference that in his interviews. He should be saying its a clear foul - Neilson certainly would, he moans constantly and they seem to be getting the benefit of decisions on an almost weekly basis so its done him no harm.

**WeeRussell** · 23-01-2023 08:19 AM

I was raging at the foul which wasn’t given before the second goal. Not seen highlights but looked absolutely clear as day from the East stand.. cynical foul and a booking. Similarly Robertson never gave another one on edge of the box when one of them clattered through the back of Nisbet as he got to the ball first.

I wondered if they might argue the ‘foul’ was far enough back before the second goal that it wouldn’t be checked?

***BILLYHIBS*** · 23-01-2023 08:31 AM

Made me realise how reckless and shoddy Porto was for their first goal

Shocking defending

Never let the ball bounce the golden rule

Berra still a smug Hearts so and so and every right to be so

Still do not think Hearts are a good side

I’m not bitter

**hibsbollah** · 23-01-2023 09:21 AM

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Made me realise how reckless and shoddy Porto was for their first goal

Shocking defending

Never let the ball bounce the golden rule

Berra still a smug Hearts so and so and every right to be so

Still do not think Hearts are a good side

I’m not bitter

This was the worst part of yesterday for me. Losing by 3 goals to a mediocre team.
They were so sloppy in possession. Poor ball retention. Yes some great blocks in and around the box. Yes, clinical as anything going forward. But they are really not a good team, and them waltzing to 3rd place and more cash sticks in the craw because they are not that great.

**GreenGray** · 23-01-2023 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Just sat through the highlights which was painful. Couple of things stuck out.

Porteous was even worse for the first goal than I thought at the time: 1) inexplicably scoops the ball back into Ginnelly when he could have just seen it out 2) needlessly fouls Ginnelly when he is facing away from goal on the touchline going nowhere 3) should do better heading ball away from free kick.

For the second goal surely it was a foul on Youan from Devlin in the build up? He just runs in and bundles him over nowhere near the ball?! Thought so at the time , even more convinced now.

But also Cadden was absolutely pathetic in allowing Shankland to score. Woeful defending.

Thought there second goal was a foul at the time too to be honest, at a time where we were still in the game that obviously killed us.

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***LaMotta*** · 23-01-2023 11:25 AM

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Thought there second goal was a foul at the time too to be honest, at a time where we were still in the game that obviously killed us.

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Well here is a video clip of it - even Hearts fans laughing at how it was a foul. Shocking refereeing from Robertson, but seriously what is the point of VAR if it doesnt pick that up?

https://twitter.com/LambeauJambo/sta...pk-EDF8Bw&s=19

**GreenGray** · 23-01-2023 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Well here is a video clip of it - even Hearts fans laughing at how it was a foul. Shocking refereeing from Robertson, but seriously what is the point of VAR if it doesnt pick that up?

https://twitter.com/LambeauJambo/sta...pk-EDF8Bw&s=19

There is no point in VAR it should be scrapped ASAP.

***JohnM1875*** · 23-01-2023 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by LaMotta

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Well here is a video clip of it - even Hearts fans laughing at how it was a foul. Shocking refereeing from Robertson, but seriously what is the point of VAR if it doesnt pick that up?

https://twitter.com/LambeauJambo/sta...pk-EDF8Bw&s=19

Absolutely a foul. Think it's a foul on Stevenson for their first as well, see them giving in the box when defending all the time.